the sheeple still rate FDR #1 pres

[Fredom101]

To his credit, FDR, along with Reagan may have been the presidents that most prominently put their ideas into practice once they became elected. There's no doubt that FDR's legacy looms large today -- even if his ideas were based on crackpot Keynesian mythology

Reagan's idea was to shrink gov't but he expanded it by 2/3rds. So you can take him off that list.

 

[emazur]

To his credit, FDR, along with Reagan may have been the presidents that most prominently put their ideas into practice once they became elected. There's no doubt that FDR's legacy looms large today -- even if his ideas were based on crackpot Keynesian mythology

You should read Great Myths of the Great Depression:
http://www.mackinac.org/archives/1998/sp1998-01.pdf
it talks about FDR's campaign promise to maintain a sound dollar based to gold to be preserved at all costs, and how Hoover's spending was leading the country towards socialism.

When Keynes first met FDR, Keynes said the man was completely ignorant about economics. I believe FDR also used anti-war rhetoric before getting into office.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

There's some good news among the rough; James Madison is rated # 6. It has taken over 100 years, but the neocon war propaganda of Henry Adams in 1889 is finally starting to wear off. Madison finished up his second term as the most popular president in the history of the United States for a president finishing out his second term.

What is amazing as that Madison is now rated ahead of Woodrow Wilson.

James Monroe, our most underrated president is rated # 7, ahead of Wilson as well.

Jefferson remains in the top 5, at # 5.

And Lincoln has dropped to # 3. He is almost always in the top two.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

The biggest joke on this poll; of the 20 criteria for rating the president, upholding the US Constitution is not listed among them.

 

[ClayTrainor]

FDR is in my top 3 worst presidents of all time.

1. Woodrow Wilson
2. Lincoln
3. FDR

 

[Galileo Galilei]

FDR is in my top 3 worst presidents of all time.

1. Woodrow Wilson
2. Lincoln
3. FDR

My worst:

1. Wilson
2. FDR
3. Truman
4. LBJ

 

[tremendoustie]

FDR is in my top 3 worst presidents of all time.

1. Woodrow Wilson
2. Lincoln
3. FDR

That's a pretty good list.

 

[Todd]

People are never as stupid as we think they are.

Sometimes, it's hard to tell.

If you look at what we have representing us as government for and by the people......and you realize that people get the government they deserve......it looks like those who think most of societies intelligence is suspect have the edge.

 

[libertybrewcity]

They should make a list of the presidents and how many deaths they are responsible for.

 

[libertybrewcity]

Lincoln: probably at least 600k

Bush: probably at least 2 or 3 million

Obama: probably at least 100K

LBJ: probably at least 1 million

Nixon: probably at least 2 or 3 million

Clinton: probably at least 1 million (sanctions, bombings, etc)

 

[pandalover]

Andrew Jackson is my favorite.

look up trial of tears

 

[Galileo Galilei]

look up trial of tears

In defense of Jackson, the American people overwhlemingly supported the trail of tears. To lay the blame on Jackson doesn't work for me. In those days, white people didn't like Indians, and Indians didn't like white people. It is not always the people on the top who are at fault, it is often the people on the bottom.

Much has not changed since the 1830s. Today, most people vote for criminals, socialists, neocons, liberals, NWO hacks, or all of the above when they get a chance to exercise power.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

In defense of Jackson, the American people overwhlemingly supported the trail of tears. To lay the blame on Jackson doesn't work for me. In those days, white people didn't like Indians, and Indians didn't like white people. It is not always the people on the top who are at fault, it is often the people on the bottom.

Much has not changed since the 1830s. Today, most people vote for criminals, socialists, neocons, liberals, NWO hacks, or all of the above when they get a chance to exercise power.

You sure go to great lengths to defend the indefensible.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

You sure go to great lengths to defend the indefensible.

I thought you opposed John Marshall and the Supreme Court? Did you know that Jackson represented the American people, he didn't represent the Indians? Did you know that the people of Georgia benefitted from the trail of tears?

byw - how did de-centralization work out for the Indians?

 

[james1906]

In defense of Jackson Hitler, the American German people overwhlemingly supported the trail of tears Holocaust. To lay the blame on Jackson Hitler doesn't work for me. In those days, white German people didn't like Indians Jews, and Indians Jews didn't like white German people. It is not always the people on the top who are at fault, it is often the people on the bottom.

Much has not changed since the 1830s. Today, most people vote for criminals, socialists, neocons, liberals, NWO hacks, or all of the above when they get a chance to exercise power.

I have updated your post.

 

[catdd]

Jackson beat the bank. Name one other person who has done that since.
Ron Paul has been the only one to even come close.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

I have updated your post.

Hitler was elected.

 

[james1906]

Hitler was elected.

I know, and your point?

 

[Legend1104]

I'll tell you who I jus recently learned about that seems great. Grover Cleveland. Non-interventionist, supported a gold standard, was lassiez faire, against bailouts, well known to be extremely honest. He is also ran surpluses and used to veto more times than any president up until his time.

 

[james1906]

I'll tell you who I jus recently learned about that seems great. Grover Cleveland. Non-interventionist, supported a gold standard, was lassiez faire, against bailouts, well known to be extremely honest. He is also ran surpluses and used to veto more times than any president up until his time.

YouTube - Cleveland Rocks~The Presidents of the United States of America