The real reason we lost. We didn't go for Obama's support.

[user]

And now in Florida - it's too late anyways.

Shoud we start thinking 3rd Party? I'd love to rid myself of this Republican label. It makes me feel dirty.

I'm not too comfortable with it either, but it's still too early to talk about going third party. We should at least wait for NH, and probably a few more states.

 

[Zack]

I know some of you don't believe it, but this is true, at least in the open states. It needs to be common knowledge that Paul is the only anti-war candidate.

 

[MalcolmGandi]

Glad someone sees it my way. I've been going after Obama supporters since day one, they're much easier to convert than warhawks. I was an unenthusiastic Obama supporter myself until I found out about the good doctor.

 

[Nihilist23]

Agreed.

 

[Richandler]

Ron's message is sophisticated and smart. Obama's was brainless.

 

[shortna]

Since Obama won in Iowa, NH independents may be more inclined to vote for Paul as the anti-war candidate since it looks like Obama has the Democrat ticket secured. NH voters typically lean Republican anyway and I was afraid that they may go for Obama if Clinton won Iowa but I'm thinking they be more inclined to vote for Paul now.

 

[passerby]

This proves to me that the campaign isn't thinking or Paul isn't using good strategy.

We can't beat the GOP at the GOPs game.

Paul should talk about change, the war and the constitution.

Anything else he should leave alone unless asked.

I mean if he gets into a general election that's the only way he'd win anyway.

Very good point, IMHO. We can't beat other candidates at their game. Like in most things in life, you focus on what you're good at. What makes RP stand out is his anti-war position, along with civil liberties/limited federal government. I think Obama won because he stuck to his 'change' message - ie, why he's different.

I hope campaign HQ realizes this before it's too late.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Obama supporters are EASY to convert! Have you ever tried? They are only there because of the war, when they hear all the other good stuff from Ron, they make the switch real quick.

 

[ecoli]

I know i'm right.

I wouldn't be here if it werent for those issues.

As soon as I saw that 30 min infomerical I knew we wouldn't do well because it starts out talking about abortion. That's not why I came into the fold and it's obvious that young people are voting... just not for Paul.

I think we can solidly blame the campaign for this........not Iowa, not the nasty ole MSM, and not ourselves.

I agree completely as well. Abortion is just not a big issue. That infomercial was doomed.

 

[Molly1]

The real reason we lost. We didn't go for Obama's support

YES!!!!!!


Finally. Someone understands. Thank you.

Now can you tell campaign headquarters please?

 

[Kade]

We didn't play up the war and the patriot act/torture.


It's just that simple.

The Paul campaign decided to trumpet abortion, being christian, and other traditional values.

We didn't get new people in and that's why we lost.

No, you are right. I could convince conservatives to switch over, I lost many of the support on my forums from Independents. The campaign trumpeted the things they thought they would win with in Iowa, and it backfired.

 

[rexsolomon]

Who says we lost? Check your assumptions.

We didn't play up the war and the patriot act/torture.


It's just that simple.

The Paul campaign decided to trumpet abortion, being christian, and other traditional values.

We didn't get new people in and that's why we lost.

Wrong assumption Sir. And it is NOT that simple.

To all those who have started finger pointing or started losing hope - don't!
Kindly read this and hopefully if you agree with it - withdraw your posts.

Please don't blame Ron Paul supporters in IOWA.

Look at the OVERALL picture.

Democrats voted for Obama.
Hillary and Edwards were seen as 'the same old ruling elite' and lost.
People really want CHANGE badly enough that a 95% white State is willing to vote for a black guy.

They only find it hard to trust a Republican.

Romney was beaten by Huckabee. A strong evangelical Christian presence in Iowa wanted to make a statement against a Mormon candidate. This religious aspect will likely not play out the same as Iowa in the rest of the States.

Thompson and McCain were always given time on the air by the main stream media - unlike Dr. Paul. And yet Dr. Paul is close enough to those two (~3%)that it is a dead heat. Dr. Paul is clearly ahead of the supposed Republican frontrunner Giuliani What more if Dr. Paul was given equal air-time?.

Check your assumptions! Don't lash out blindly.

People REALLY, badly want change.

Ron Paul can still win this, but several MAJOR things have to be done.

The PRIMARY mistaken assumption is that 'the message is perfect' - it is not. Each message must be refined and clarified so that it doesn't scare people. It must be re-packaged far better next time - enough to convince Democrats to vote for Dr. Paul.

The way we handle the MSM is another major item we must deal with. And there are several ways that we can do this effectively.

Other things will have to be done as well, but I cannot cover them all here.

Don't lose hope my friends. Ron Paul is the only real hope for America.

Be resolute.

 

[shortna]

+1

 

[rexsolomon]

+1

And why do they turn out?

 

[shortna]

+1

 

[Molly1]

OK Listen up.

We didn't lose to Obama because of anything Obama stands for.

In fact, Ron Paul is more anti-war than Obama.

Obama is just more of the same, but the Independent voter doesn't know that.

The problem is that the Independent will not touch the Republican party.

The Independent voter wants change, not more Republican.

The Independent voter wants nothing to do with Mccain, Guiliani, Thompson, and most especially Huckeluyah.

The Republican party can go to Hell.

--Unless, they know about Ron Paul

which they don't.

So they all go vote for Obama or Edwards because that means change to them and they are sick to death of the status quo.

 

[Kade]

Wrong assumption Sir. And it is NOT that simple.

To all those who have started finger pointing or started losing hope - don't!
Kindly read this and hopefully if you agree with it - withdraw your posts.

Please don't blame Ron Paul supporters in IOWA.

Look at the OVERALL picture.

Democrats voted for Obama.
Hillary and Edwards were seen as 'the same old ruling elite' and lost.
People really want CHANGE badly enough that a 95% white State is willing to vote for a black guy.

They only find it hard to trust a Republican.

Romney was beaten by Huckabee. A strong evangelical Christian presence in Iowa wanted to make a statement against a Mormon candidate. This religious aspect will likely not play out the same as Iowa in the rest of the States.

Thompson and McCain were always given time on the air by the main stream media - unlike Dr. Paul. And yet Dr. Paul is close enough to those two (~3%)that it is a dead heat. Dr. Paul is clearly ahead of the supposed Republican frontrunner Giuliani What more if Dr. Paul was given equal air-time?.

Check your assumptions! Don't lash out blindly.

People REALLY, badly want change.

Ron Paul can still win this, but several MAJOR things have to be done.

The PRIMARY mistaken assumption is that 'the message is perfect' - it is not. Each message must be refined and clarified so that it doesn't scare people. It must be re-packaged far better next time - enough to convince Democrats to vote for Dr. Paul.

The way we handle the MSM is another major item we must deal with. And there are several ways that we can do this effectively.

Other things will have to be done as well, but I cannot cover them all here.

Don't lose hope my friends. Ron Paul is the only real hope for America.

Be resolute.

Listen. My age group showed up. They voted OVERWHELMINGLY for Barack. The campaign shat on the founders of this grassroot movement, and it paid for it.

I think Ron Paul should fire his campaign managers and spend some money on getting back the leftist libertarians. Conservatives are one-minded simpletons. This movement is made up of tech-savvy libertarian liberals... let's really think about this...