The REAL Gaddafi and what he wanted to do?

Yep- a desirable economy we should try to emulate. Government spending also makes up 43% of GDP- higher than the 38% of GDP in the US (though not by a ton). Government much more involved in people's and business's lives there too.

("Freedom scale" goes up to 100 with 100 indicating the most freedom- their overall score ranks them as #173 globally)

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/Libya
Investment Freedom 10.0 no change

Foreign investment does not receive national treatment, and new investment is screened by the government. At least 35 percent of a non-Libyan business must be controlled by Libyan individuals or companies. Bureaucracy is non-transparent, complex, inefficient, and subject to political influence. Residents and non-residents may hold foreign currency accounts with prior approval. Repatriation and most capital transactions, including transactions involving capital, credit operations, and direct investment, are subject to controls, including approval requirements. Foreigners may not own land in most cases.

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Financial Freedom 20.0 no change

Libya’s highly centralized financial system remains subject to considerable state influence. The government, which nationalized all banks decades ago, recently eased banking laws to allow financial liberalization and privatization. The government has recently privatized 15 percent of one of the two largest state-owned banks and two new banks have been granted licenses. However, private banking institutions are unable to compete with state-subsidized companies. The banking sector is still dominated by four banks that are fully or majority-owned by the Central Bank of Libya. These four banks account for more than 90 percent of assets. The high cost of credit and limited access to financing impede private business development. Legislation passed in 2005 permits foreign banks to open branches.

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Property Rights 10.0 no change

The Libyan government eliminated all private property rights and most private businesses in 1978. The renting of property was declared illegal, and ownership of property was limited to a single dwelling per family, with all other properties being redistributed. The judiciary is not independent, the private practice of law is illegal, and all lawyers must be members of the Secretariat of Justice. There is little land ownership, and the government has the power to renationalize any property that has been privatized. Foreign companies are especially vulnerable, and the government has a history of expropriation. Trademark violations are widespread. Libya is ranked 113th out of 125 countries in the 2010 International Property Rights Index.

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Freedom From Corruption 25.0 -1.0

Corruption is perceived as widespread. Libya ranks 130th out of 180 countries in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index for 2009. Government integrity is undermined by favoritism based on personal and family connections. The Qadhafi clan exercises near-total control of major government decisions.

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Labor Freedom 20.0 no change

Unemployment and underemployment are chronically high. The labor market is tightly regulated and subject to government directives. Labor law specifies minimum wage rates, the number of work hours, night shift rules, and dismissal regulations.


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The "rebels" also apparently moonlight in the banking industry as they took the time out to create a central bank mid-revolution, before they even took the country over.

Its almost funny to watch them celebrate, knowing that they are soon to be exploited by the international banking cabal, and that foreign oil companies are going to rape them, and the fact that NATO really isnt in the business of putting 'nice' puppet governments in. They like guys that cut heads off with swords to keep the people in line.

Qadaffi may well have been a shithead and a tyrant for some in Libya, but I'm not thinking Thomas Jefferson Muhammed is going to be their next president and create a model of freedom over there. 10 years from now it will be worse, I'd put $100 on it.
 
Some of you make my head hurt sometimes.

Gaddafi, who was a dictator, a socialist, a known supporter of terrorism, who had innocent people killed, and ran a tyranical government, was a good guy according to some of you.

I'm sure that there will be a group of people posting about this in the comment sections of articles on other websites, that go something along the lines of "Gaddafi was a good guy set up by the NWO. He wanted peace, gold, and freedom. RON PAUL 2012!!!", giving Paul supporters (and Paul by extension) a bad name. I'm also sure that some on this website will now accuse me of being involved in an international conspiracy theory to overthrow the US government and create a one world government, or at least declare me to be ignorant and have no understanding of the world.
 
Cutlerzzz said:
Some of you make my head hurt sometimes.

Gaddafi, who was a dictator, a socialist, a known supporter of terrorism, who had innocent people killed, and ran a tyranical government, was a good guy according to some of you.

I'm sure that there will be a group of people posting about this in the comment sections of articles on other websites, that go something along the lines of "Gaddafi was a good guy set up by the NWO. He wanted peace, gold, and freedom. RON PAUL 2012!!!", giving Paul supporters (and Paul by extension) a bad name. I'm also sure that some on this website will now accuse me of being involved in an international conspiracy theory to overthrow the US government and create a one world government, or at least declare me to be ignorant and have no understanding of the world.
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CLAP CLAP CLAP
Well said. I was just thinking the same thing.
 
bill1971 said:
CLAP CLAP CLAP
Well said. I was just thinking the same thing.
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No clapping from me. This was a CIA-NATO coup to keep African oil traded in U.S. dollars. It is disgusting, illegal, and immoral. Obama should be impeached. We should be out of NATO and the UN immediately. This is terribly serious shit. The chiding that Ron Paul supporters are "pro Gaddafi" is offensive and absurd.
 
anaconda said:
No clapping from me. This was a CIA-NATO coup to keep African oil traded in U.S. dollars. It is disgusting, illegal, and immoral. Obama should be impeached. We should be out of NATO and the UN immediately. This is terribly serious shit. The chiding that Ron Paul supporters are "pro Gaddafi" is offensive and absurd.
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The coup was horrible, unconstitutional, and corporatist, but that doesn't excuse Gaddafi from criticism. I believe people are way too focused on the fact that he was trying to make a gold standard currency (I'm not saying that it isn't big) and the cons aren't talked about at all.
 
It's like trying to decide who's the best mobster. They're all murders and crooks. lol
 
Cutlerzzz said:
Gaddafi, who was a dictator, a socialist, a known supporter of terrorism, who had innocent people killed, and ran a tyranical government, was a good guy according to some of you.
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Well, apparently the U.S. Government considered him a good guy at least since 2004. We pretty much ended any sanctions and rescinded its designation as a state sponsor of terrorism. Everything had been pretty hunky-dory. Until, this rapid turn-about. It's things like this that make me go...hmmmmmmm.
 
Thanks original poster.

When this all started an African friend mentioned that what was happening didn't seem to make sense to him. He said it was one of the wealthiest countries around there.

At least I'm thinking it was Libya.
 
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anaconda said:
No clapping from me. This was a CIA-NATO coup to keep African oil traded in U.S. dollars. It is disgusting, illegal, and immoral. Obama should be impeached. We should be out of NATO and the UN immediately. This is terribly serious shit. The chiding that Ron Paul supporters are "pro Gaddafi" is offensive and absurd.
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I, too, have had my suspicions. Several months back when this all started in Libya, I was very skeptical. When I started researching, I, too, found that film of him riding through the pristine streets of the town. I read his Green Book. I wanted to know immediately if a central bank had been installed there after the coup and of course, there was. Just like with Saddam Hussein in Iraq, first thing they installed a central bank. In both cases, these dictators were abandoning the dollar.

I am glad that someone else found the video and decided to post it. Beautiful city will likely be ruined under the new regime. People's lives will never be the same. And we all must be skeptical of why, again, Gadaffi was assassinated instead of being granted a trial, so that all his skeletons might be revealed perhaps. Rather like Bin Laden perhaps. Were they killed for what did or for what they didn't do? Were they killed so that the world could never know the truth? I do not know, but will always be suspicious. Just as I am suspicious of the so-called attempted murder of the Saudi diplomat. And the murder of the American in Yemen.

My question is this: Are we going around the world manufacturing all these coups and chaos for the wrong reasons? Just asking the question tends to suggest the answer.
 
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Cutlerzzz said:
Some of you make my head hurt sometimes.

Gaddafi, who was a dictator, a socialist, a known supporter of terrorism, who had innocent people killed, and ran a tyranical government, was a good guy according to some of you.
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I'm Barack Obama...and I approve this message! :p
 
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