The Rand Paul Daily Paul Interview

[Bman]

So Rand will be up for reelection in 2016 and wouldn't be reelected if he didn't endorse a man who (I HOPE) he has nothing in common with other than a political party affiliation in 2012?

Can you give me tomorrows winning powerball numbers?

I could but I'm not sharing.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

He seriously tried to give Mitt Romney cover on foreign policy again.

Fucking unbelievable. He's either the most naive person who ever existed, or he's off the reservation.

 

[Travlyr]

I'm 5 minutes in, still haven't heard a reason why he endorsed Romney.

Why did you endorse Romney? Why would you campaign for him? Why not just keep your trap shut?

I can see a positive strategy in Rand endorsing Romney on Hannity's show. I have a good friend that drives a semi truck who is one of Hannity, Levin, and Rush's captive radio audience. He is a conservative Republican who believes what they say. Now he is on board with Rand. I think there are a lot of hard working Republicans like that. Infiltration is what must be done. We must become more powerful than the powers that be.

 

[July]

Interesting comment that Romney may not be as bellicose as he appears. I'm not sure that is even necessarily a lie, because we all know Romney panders, and I think it is possible he plans to tone down the war rhetoric for the general election as a strategic move, now that the primary is over.

Obama took out Bin Laden. How does Romney plan to differentiate himself as a better choice? I hardly think portraying himself as an even bigger warmonger than Obama will play well in the general. It may have played well in the relatively small GOP primary base...and with the GOP special interests. But not ending the wars is one of Obama's biggest failed promises. I'll be surprised if Romney doesn't try to exploit it somehow.

Still, it might not be a bad thing, if it were to happen that way... the
Republican party has been the "war party" for long time now, and doing so could help give credibility to a shift in paradigm, if aggressively reinforced by people like Rand. Even if it is ultimately just pandering on Romney's part.

Not saying this justifies Romney or that anyone should vote for him, or that he would necessarily follow through on any of his promises. Just that I wouldn't be surprised if he does start pandering soon to the anti war crowd, and toning things down for votes, as a strategic move.

 

[ohgodno]

Two interviews – both ask softball questions of Rand.

Where are the questions about the involvement of Trygve Olson, in the campaign? What about the out-of-nowhere promotion of Jesse Benton?

I mean, come on… this movement is being co-opted before our eyes… JUST like the tea party was… and again we're being blinded by the carrot the War Party is hanging out there for us. Yes I'm excited Rand has done some good things… BUT he's also done something unforgivable: vote to engage in an act of war with Iran.

Let's not be blinded by Rand's last name, let's look at what he did in that interview, and every other time he's spoken about this endorsement: show us something shiny to get us to ignore reality: "Romney doesn't like the war in Afganistan" THEN Rand glosses over (or conveniently forgets) the fact that he merely wants to use those troops to kill brown people elsewhere—oh and "double the military".

Rand would have us play ball with the bad-guys so we can get some scraps… I feel dirty. Playing down the anti-war message of this movement will turn us into nothing more than the afterthought that Evangelicals are to the republicans today. If we respond to rhetoric like: "we're going to get to have a vote on this" - and get exited about that… while compromising what we are by going along with the endorsement of a War Monger in Chief – well then we've given up hope for liberty.

 

[MJU1983]

I can see a positive strategy in Rand endorsing Romney on Hannity's show. I have a good friend that drives a semi truck who is one of Hannity, Levin, and Rush's captive radio audience. He is a conservative Republican who believes what they say. Now he is on board with Rand. I think there are a lot of hard working Republicans like that. Infiltration is what must be done. We must become more powerful than the powers that be.

Sounds like your friend is part of the problem. Remember the TEA Party?

Hannity, Levin, Rush...scum scum scum.

 

[EBounding]

I know you guys are mad at Rand for his endorsement, but I'll bet the establishment Republicans are even more angry than you. Rand just took the only weapon they could use against him. I'll bet they're secretly furious because they know Rand's endorsement is going to be meaningless, and there's nothing they can do about it. Obviously, it's not going to get the Paul people to vote for Romney.

Could Rand still become corrupt and compromise on how he votes? Sure. But judgement should be held until that actually happens.

 

[palm]

In 2016/2020, if we aren't being sniped by the drones (because they don't need warrants, and don't care), I doubt Rand Paul will be much of anything, once the "machine" rolls out against him.
He already burned his bridge by lying in his official endorsement of Romney, and dragged Ron Paul supporters into it by name.
If he is truly a professional politician, and knows how to play the game, he is doing an absolutely horrendous job, and this idea of..."going along to get along" doesn't work. Compromise once, and it gets easier to compromise a 2nd time, and 3rd time...and so on.
Seriously, he would have come out and endorsed Michele "I Lie About Your Father" Bachmann, and all the other candidates that did the same, including Jon Huntsman...to get along with the party?
He didn't answer the question as to WHY he endorsed Romney at all, he's going into full defense mode now...about himself and how great he is. That's what both interviews have been. "I'm a great Senator because of XYZ..."
That's not the question...

^ This is conjecture.

 

[palm]

Get off of Rand Paul's balls! You guys don't actually care about working with what we have, you just want to yell at a computer screen.

All I hear is helplessness. You guys have no idea what Rand is trying to do here and for you to take all that he has done, and the quality of his judgement so far and trash it because he is trying to work through a recession is immature. You guys are using extreme Alexs Jonesey propaganda points to refute what Rand is doing here and it makes me question some of your characters.

 

[Humanae Libertas]

It's now obvious that Rand is more focused about his political career. He just admitted it during that interview, the fact he's trying to take credit for getting bills introduced and trying to portray himself as some time of leader of the movement makes me sick. This guy is a snake.

 

[AuH20]

It's now obvious that Rand is more focused about his political career. He just admitted it during that interview, the fact he's trying to take credit for getting bills introduced and trying to portray himself as some time of leader of the movement makes me sick. This guy is a snake.

He's advancing the ball forwards. Making our ideas palatable as a superior communicator. Do you really think he wanted to leave his comfortable ophthalmology profession to get involved in this beltway slime-pit for personal gain?

 

[Humanae Libertas]

He's advancing the ball forwards. Making our ideas palatable as a superior communicator. Do you really think he wanted to leave his comfortable ophthalmology profession to get involved in this beltway slime-pit for personal gain?

Yes, there 99 other senators with that mindset, so what would make him any different?

 

[SpicyTurkey]

I still support Rand, but I still hate the fact that he endorsed Romney. That's a stain that will remain with him forever.

 

[AuH20]

Yes, there 99 other senators with that mindset, so what would make him any different?

Because he has ALWAYS been Ron's son, both philosophically and genetically. Keep your eye on the ball. I find it amusing how Ron Paul is so revered as a demigod, yet many of the same fans don't trust that Ron properly raised his child???? Huh???? We're in good hands with Rand just as we were with his father.

 

[MJU1983]

He's advancing the ball forwards. Making our ideas palatable as a superior communicator. Do you really think he wanted to leave his comfortable ophthalmology profession to get involved in this beltway slime-pit for personal gain?

Maybe?

"Sir, there are two passions which have a powerful influence in the affairs of men. These are ambition and avarice; the love of power and the love of money. Separately, each of these has great force in prompting men to action; but when united in view of the same object, they have in many minds the most violent effects. Place before the eyes of such men a post of honor, that shall at the same time be a place of profit, and they will move heaven and earth to obtain it. The vast number of such places it is that renders the British government so tempestuous. The struggles for them are the true source of all those factions which are perpetually dividing the nation, distracting its councils, hurrying it sometimes into fruitless and mischievous wars, and often compelling a submission to dishonorable terms of peace." - Ben Franklin, Constitutional Convention, 1787

 

[Fredom101]

The big problem now is that Ron hasn't addressed this mess. The longer Ron waits to address his supporters, the bigger an issue the Rand endorsement becomes.

 

[Humanae Libertas]

Because he has ALWAYS been Ron's son, both philosophically and genetically. Keep your eye on the ball. I find it amusing how Ron Paul is so revered as a demigod, yet many of the same fans don't trust that Ron properly raised his child???? Huh???? We're in good hands with Rand just as we were with his father.

Not buying it, sorry. Just because he is son of Ron Paul, doesn't mean he gets a free ride. Plus, just because he is, it does not mean he will be just like his dad. There could have been another major influence besides his parents during his life that changed his way of thinking, etc. He is no libertarian, he is a conservative, which is the problem. I refuse to support someone like him knowing his voting records, as well as his beliefs.

 

[kjajames]

I was angry with the endorsement too. The one thing I cling too, is that if the endorsement will buy enough political support and expedience to the Audit the fed. Look at the bank runs in Europe that is happening now. Imagine if people found out what the federal reserve was doing after a full audit of the fed. There would be bank runs and all sorts of chaos in America, the dollar would be destroyed and in one move the Audit of the Federal Reserve would dismantle all neo-con establishment power immediately. If our dollar is destroyed, it is impossible to use the current foreign policy. Nothing would be more important in this country than to seek sound money, and with sound money you cannot be the policeman of the world. You also can't have top-heavy bankrupting social programs that we libertarians don't like. So I cling to that strategy as being Rand's goal. Monetary Policy would checkmate.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Its interesting that the only thing he can ever stand on in defense of endorsing Romney's foreign policy is "I talked with Romney in private"...no one cares. We could care less if he thinks so and so is a good guy, we know the record.

 

[cheapseats]

Do you really think he wanted to leave his comfortable ophthalmology profession to get involved in this beltway slime-pit for personal gain?

YES, I DO.

Have you been to both Washington DC and Bowling Green? Capitol Hill or a doctor's office, hmmm...movin' & shakin' or "Sooo, Mrs. Goolahee, let's have a look-see..." Heh heh. Ho hum.

Mick Jagger's father insisted on an EDUCATION, in case the music thing didn't pan out. He studied Economics. From Wikipedia: "...Jagger continued his business courses at the London School of Economics,[9] and had seriously considered becoming either a journalist or a politician. Jagger had compared the latter to a pop star."

YES, I DO think Rand Paul reeeally wanted to leave the comfort zone of small town doctor to be a Player. I believe Ron Paul and Rand Paul BOTH had aspirations for a political career for the younger Paul.

Lo and behold:

Because he has ALWAYS been Ron's son, both philosophically and genetically. . . . We're in good hands with Rand just as we were with his father.

DONORS who think Politicos are doing them a big favor are young & naive or unthinking & gullible.

Noooo, I am not saying that no one should earn a living in Politics. But if y'all have not learned that "giving the benefit of the doubt" to Politicians is a COLOSSAL MISTAKE & ALSO DERELICTION OF DUTY, well, then you still haven't learned it.

The Romney endorsement DOES make Rand a Politician, right? Is that not the KEY ingredient to approval of the Romney endorsement...that RAND has political savvy that RON does not?

Set not yourselves up for another ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY campaign. At least don't do that again, out of reverence for ALL THINGS PAUL.

Carry on.