The question of Leftists

[Mr. Perfidy]

My parents are neo-cons. I went home for something last year and was talking about this or that rothbardian kind of economic stance, and my mom said all disappointed,

"when did my son become a communist?"!!!! LOL

And Butchie, comeon man- being anti-illegal immigration is a perfectly rational and constitutional stance. But, that is not to say that the people who get all emotional over it and yell the loudest just hate mexicans. Don't even front, you are not fooling us. It isn't even typically a real feeling anyway, just a knee-jerk tribalist fear response to imagined aggression.

Example- I have a friend in the movement, got him a 2nd job delivering pizzas at a place I used to work. The whole kitchen is illegal. He used to come home and say how awesome they all were and how he is jealous of mexicans because of their family networks and cultural support nets and resource/service cooperatives. There was one guy that we called Smile Mask, because he had a huge face and was always so happy looking.

So like 6 months after he leaves this place, he's trying to schmooze into the older moustachio'd mortgage holder straights JBS kinda crowd, and he's on his anti-illegal immigrant horse, talking about DEPORTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and talking about them like they are some kind of terrible plague. He literally did not make the connection that he was talking about REAL PEOPLE, the SAME PEOPLE that he was glad to call friends not a few months back.

Its a conceptual, ego-illusory thing that takes root in the warped psyches of moderns, typically whites, whose own culture is just totally vitiated, electronic, centrally-commanded madison avenue-pentagon axis garbage. it is a psychological condition, not a political stance.

 

[libertyfanatic]

I find liberals much more open to Dr. Paul's ideas than any neocons.

 

[Mr. Perfidy]

I tell them,

"None of the social safety nets you want to see for the poor or disabled or whatever will go anywhere for a few generations- you know, I know, EVERYONE knows, that the ruling class is GUILTY OF TREASON and all kinds of other capital crimes. A Ron Paul presidency opens the door to prosecuting them. Then we can seize their illegitimate wealth, and fund those programs until their damage is negated, and future generations can enter the free market on an even playing field."

 

[Schiff_FTW]

In my experience leftists tend to be a lot more intellectually dishonest than neocons. They absolutely despise Paul because his very presence on the national stage highlights their hypocrisy on defining issues such as war, civil liberties, and corporatism. On these fundamentals Paul represents what many on the left profess to support, while in actuality they do not. So since they can't argue with him on the issues (since at heart they know he is right and they are sellouts), leftists almost always resort to nonsense name-calling/hit piece talking points that they think makes them look smart.

 

[libertyfanatic]

In my experience leftists tend to be a lot more intellectually dishonest than neocons. They absolutely despise Paul because his very presence on the national stage highlights their hypocrisy on defining issues such as war, civil liberties, and corporatism. On these fundamentals Paul represents what many on the left profess to support, while in actuality they do not. So since they can't argue with him on the issues (since at heart they know he is right and they are sellouts), leftists almost always resort to nonsense name-calling/hit piece talking points that they think makes them look smart.

I guess it depends on how far left they are. The moderate liberals I know all respect Dr. Paul.

 

[Schiff_FTW]

I guess it depends on how far left they are. The moderate liberals I know all respect Dr. Paul.

You're luckier than me then. For example I recently had an email conversation with a 'friend' who goes to one of the nation's top law schools (supposedly demonstrating his intelligence) that went something like this:

"Two separate provisions have passed under the Obama administration that allows for (1) targeted assassinations and (2) indefinite detention, of U.S. citizens, with zero due process."

His reply: a link to some stupid NYTimes article claiming (no doubt falsely) that Ron Paul double charged the government for some airline tickets in the 90s.

The leftist playbook: "When you can't defend fascism under Democrats, change the topic."

 

[libertyfanatic]

You're luckier than me then. For example I recently had an email conversation with a 'friend' who goes to one of the nation's top law schools (supposedly demonstrating his intelligence) that went something like this:

"Two separate provisions have passed under the Obama administration that allows for (1) targeted assassinations and (2) indefinite detention, of U.S. citizens, with zero due process."

His reply: a link to some stupid NYTimes article claiming (no doubt falsely) that Ron Paul double charged the government for some airline tickets in the 90s.

The leftist playbook: "When you can't defend fascism under Democrats, change the topic."

Thats pretty pathetic on his part lol.

 

[Mr. Perfidy]

yeah it might work in an email, but if a person tried that shit in person, I would shame him without mercy until he was forced to confess that he was ducking the topic at hand.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Most americans are retarded and dont know squat about philosophy, private property and capitalism.

Left and Right=Red Sox Vs. Yankees. Pick a side and start hollering for your team. No principles, no core, no morals. I just want my team to win.

That's all both parties are. Two sides of the same evil, statist coin.

Left and right are not political parties. They denote different ideologies. The left wants a large centralized government. Those on the right do not. That means we have leftists in both the Republican and Democratic Parties.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I find liberals much more open to Dr. Paul's ideas than any neocons.

Don't forget that neo-conservatives came from the Trotskyite wing of the Democratic Party.