The Problems Oklahoma Dealt With from the Ron Paul Campaign State Coordinator

sailingaway said:
I addressed the 'satanic facade', I don't think they are calling anyone satanic, but are calling the 'facade' of salvation a 'satanic' trick,not by the erroneous teachers but by a spirit that misled them (in the view of the author).
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The words claim Ron Paul can't read and is an idiot being led by satanists.

Regarding the 9/11 sign, I must admit I don't get that. However, the grass roots were picked as official campaign themselves, it doesn't sound like they were objected to, on the grounds of their faith or anything else. It is the middle management guy people seemed to object to.
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According to the Allen dude they were objected to and ignored once they did a background search. I wouldn't dignify them with a response either.
 
acptulsa said:
All this scrutiny of the Fishes is nothing but a distraction. Their main claim to fame is that the lady was the first to air grievances against Gerhart, near as I can tell.
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I'm only thankful that the media didn't catch wind of this affiliation. It was damage control as soon as the campaign learned about it. It's one thing to take a picture with someone from stormfront, it's another to have official ties to them whenever you know they are from stormfront.
 
fr33 said:
I'm only thankful that the media didn't catch wind of this affiliation. It was damage control as soon as the campaign learned about it. It's one thing to take a picture with someone from stormfront, it's another to have official ties to them whenever you know they are from stormfront.
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as far as I can tell 'stormfront' is a pretty major leap here. I have no idea what that one picture about 9/11 is, but jumping from that, with no similar statement of any kind in the body of the document as far as I can tell, to 'stormfront' without ASKING the person what it is about, seems pretty rich.

Ron doesn't endorse the religion of those who support him, he just endorses everyone's right to freedom of their own religion.
 
fr33 said:
The words claim Ron Paul can't read and is an idiot being led by satanists.

According to the Allen dude they were objected to and ignored once they did a background search. I wouldn't dignify them with a response either.
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you keep saying that but you can't show it in the document where they speak of 'satanists' at all, I am on the point of thinking you are intentionally attacking another poster, which is against TOS.
 
On page 11 of this thread - Why do you all keep replying to parrocks? He's just always going into these threads and derailing them. Do you really think those opinions hold weight?
 
parocks said:
Derailing them? I'm on point, I just disagree.
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every other post is from you and even Qfish says you're "lying". How about you stop talking about things you don't know about. Don't you have a job, or is forum posting your job?
 
I have met and know the Fish family, via our mutual involvement in the Liberty Movement in Oklahoma. They are as good a group of people as I have ever met. They are not racists, nor are they involved in anything remotely close to "stormfront". If I am correct, that is a neo-nazi group, and they are about opposite of that (they are believers in Liberty not fascism).

I don't know much about their religious beliefs, other than that they call themselves Christians, and they have their own church that is not part of a major denomination. I consider that a plus. It sickens me that anyone would attack them for their religious beliefs, especially in our Movement. I am proud to call them my friends, and my Brothers and Sisters in Liberty.
 
To put this in context....

Many in the Oklahoma grassroots didn't want to work with the Campaign. I specifically reached out to some of the leaders early on and they absolutely told me they didn't want anything to do with the Campaign.

That's firsthand from me.

So now, is it any wonder why the Campaign may or may not have been leery about who became a delegate from Oklahoma?
 
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Matt Collins said:
To put this in context....

Many in the Oklahoma grassroots didn't want to work with the Campaign. I specifically reached out to some of the leaders early on and they absolutely told me they didn't want anything to do with the Campaign.

That's firsthand from me.

So now, is it any wonder why the Campaign may or may not have been leery about who became a delegate from Oklahoma?
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Others on this thread, also with first hand knowledge, seem to have a different take about what happened. Regarding not wanting to have anything to do with 'the campaign' it might have just been that one person none of the other campaign appointed grass roots wanted to have anything to do with. Note that they were also 'campaign', and held official positions. In any event, they were there full time, not just dropping in.
 
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ninepointfive said:
every other post is from you and even Qfish says you're "lying". How about you stop talking about things you don't know about. Don't you have a job, or is forum posting your job?
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I read the original post on Daily Paul, like this thread was created to discuss, and I'm discussing it. That's what's supposed to happen. But I'm not sure exactly how productive a "discussion of a discussion" might be.
 
sailingaway said:
Others on this thread, also with first hand knowledge, seem to have a different take about what happened. Regarding not wanting to have anything to do with 'the campaign' it might have just been that one person none of the other campaign appointed grass roots wanted to have anything to do with. Note that they were also 'campaign', and held official positions. In any event, they were there full time, not just dropping in.
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I have no idea, but I do know that several Oklahoma grassroots members flat-out told me that they wanted nothing to do with the Campaign after we tried to reach out to them.
 
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