The Only Way To End The Fed IMO

[Allen72289]

We must eliminate debt.

We must congregate in self-sufficient communities.

Bartering it is tax exempt!!!

Then once the majority of us have eliminated our debt we must prepare room and board for all 300 million Americans.

Once we're strong enough to support all of us without incomes we should drop our jobs and boycott every product.

This would force companies to lay off workers creating a domino effect of people realizing what control debt has over them

Once they realize this we should open our homes up to them.

This would eliminate the circulation of money thus making it impossible for the fed to continue.

 

[Iowa4Paul]

We must eliminate debt.

We must congregate in self-sufficient communities.

Bartering it is tax exempt!!!

Then once the majority of us have eliminated our debt we must prepare room and board for all 300 million Americans.

Once we're strong enough to support all of us without incomes we should drop our jobs and boycott every product.

This would force companies to lay off workers creating a domino effect of people realizing what control debt has over them

Once they realize this we should open our homes up to them.

This would eliminate the circulation of money thus making it impossible for the fed to continue.

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[Allen72289]

Huh?

o_____________o;

Dude, eliminating taxes and inflation contradicts communism.

 

[Allen72289]

Bump

ORGANIC CROP INFORMATION FROM:
The Owner-Built Homestead, by Ken &Barbara Kern
# VEGETABLE NAME YIELD: POUNDS / ACRE
1 SPINACH 11,000
2 CARROT 19,400
3 ONION 19,800
4 SQUASH-WINTER 17,000
5 POTATO-IRISH 15,200
6 CELERY 32,000
7 CABBAGE 13,700
8 TOMATO 11,000
9 BEAN-SNAP 4,600
10 LETTUCE 9,100
11 TURNIP 12,000
12 BROCCOLI 7,300
13 CAULIFLOWER 10,800
14 BELL PEPPER 6,900
15 POTATO-SWEET 6,000
16 CORN 6,200
17 SQUASH-SUMMER 9,700
18 BEET 10,800
19 CANTALOUPE 9,800
20 PEA 2,200
21 ASPARAGUS 4,400
22 CUCUMBER 8,400
23 RADISH 12,000
24 WATERMELON 10,300
25 BEAN-LIMA 1,400
TOTAL: 271,000
AVERAGE: 10,840

http://www.gardensofeden.org/04 Crop Yield Verification.htm


It clear that it would be impossible to produce enough food without trade.

Any of you guys know a way to avoid taxes on international trade??

Anyone interested in starting a non profit organization based on debt elimination?

You guys know the only way to beat bankers at their own game is to eliminate debt..

 

[scooter]

You can't eliminate the debt without eliminating the fractional reserve system. In that system the money IS debt.

 

[TSOL]

The only way to end the Federal Government's Empire is a revolution; not a Ron Paul Revolution but a real uprising by the people

Unfortunately, American's are given just the right amount of freedom and comfort to remain apathetic. Barring a massive Economic Depression that collapses our Government, I don't forsee it happening.

 

[John P Slevin]

odious debt

Anyone interested in starting a non profit organization based on debt elimination?

There are existing organizations trying to achieve this.

Many debtor nations have been meeting to discuss a way to ally to determine how to renounce portions of their debt, so-called "odious debt".

A basic definition of "odious debt" is obligations incurred thru no contract with the people who are burdened by it, and so as to make money for a bunch of government connected leeches. An example would be when a US backed loan agreement goes to a country for the purpose of a building project, and with the condition that certain companies be contracted to do the work.

This is the essential scam behind many foreign aid packages which have been sailing through congress over the years

In a nutshell, you would be correct in pointing out that "odious debt" must be renounced.

You might Google, using terms like "odious debt" "sovereign nation debt" "distressed sovereign debt" (this last phrase is great, because you'll see there are major Wall Street Players who line up to buy up the debt involving poor nations, essentially making those people their slaves).

 

[slantedview]

there is no possible way to end our national debt with the federal reserve in power. as they say the money to cover interest payments on our debt "is not in the system". it's not possible to pay back our debt. NOT POSSIBLE.

the only longterm solution is let our currency and/or economy crash and start over, or do away with the fed now. what becomes of our debt is debatable - perhaps we can force the banking companies who own the federal reserve to subsidize our debt since they're the ones who created it.

 

[Allen72289]

If nobody needs income or uses the federal reserve note the fed goes bye bye, no??

o_o; That's what I'm saying.

If nobody needs an income there would be no currency in circulation therefore our government could not continue with these fed loans.

My only fear is they would tax us in the form of goods and services if they could not tax us with fed notes

 

[murrayrothbard]

We must eliminate debt.

We must congregate in self-sufficient communities.

Bartering it is tax exempt!!!

Then once the majority of us have eliminated our debt we must prepare room and board for all 300 million Americans.

Once we're strong enough to support all of us without incomes we should drop our jobs and boycott every product.

This would force companies to lay off workers creating a domino effect of people realizing what control debt has over them

Once they realize this we should open our homes up to them.

This would eliminate the circulation of money thus making it impossible for the fed to continue.

Um, money exists for a reason. A direct exchange economy (i.e a barter economy) is unable to deal with the problem of coincidence of wants, and the calculation problems that arise once a production structure starts to become even the least bit developed.

There is nothing wrong with money, qua money.

 

[Allen72289]

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with the innocent concept of money.

Federal reserve notes are different.

Hard money is key, you can use gold and silver to barter.

We do not need big corporations to employ us to produce products and services in exchanged for fiat money.

We should start companies that create products and services using the method of bartering for income.

You want that product right, why pay a banker interest for using his paper to buy it when you could just create a strong trading g network and get what you want.

People who also want electronics want lawn mowers and groceries etc.

I think if we established a well organized trade network we wouldn't need fed notes.

 

[murrayrothbard]

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with the innocent concept of money.

Federal reserve notes are different.

Hard money is key, you can use gold and silver to barter.

We do not need big corporations to employ us to produce products and services in exchanged for fiat money.

We should start companies that create products and services using the method of bartering for income.

You want that product right, why pay a banker interest for using his paper to buy it when you could just create a strong trading g network and get what you want.

People who also want electronics want lawn mowers and groceries etc.

I think if we established a well organized trade network we wouldn't need fed notes.

I'm confused. By "barter" do you mean using commodities as mediums of exchange (i.e money), or do you mean direct exchange (i.e one computer for one dozen eggs, four pairs of shoes, one pair of pants, four socks, and TV)?

 

[WilliamC]

For the guru of eliminating debt go to daveramsey.com

 

[slantedview]

For the guru of eliminating debt go to daveramsey.com

yea, i'm sure he could tell us about the fed.

 

[Allen72289]

Direct exchange and precious metals are two great ways I think.

They both have their advantages..

I watched a video of Ron Paul stating that some states outlaw the use of gold and silver as currency???

 

[slantedview]

Direct exchange and precious metals are two great ways I think.

They both have their advantages..

I watched a video of Ron Paul stating that some states outlaw the use of gold and silver as currency???

as currency, i think so (which i presume is why the liberty dollar folks were raided), though i'm unfamiliar with this and would like to learn more.

 

[Allen72289]

We must end debt and boycott fiat currency.

Use methods of wealth transaction that are tax exempt.

Vote in local politicians who believe in a constitutional government.

 

[jonahtrainer]

We must end debt and boycott fiat currency.

An alternative already exists and because it harnesses technology has made banks and central banks 8 track tapes in a digital world.

 

[Allen72289]

An alternative already exists and because it harnesses technology has made banks and central banks 8 track tapes in a digital world.

I'll have to check into this.

Thanks!

Another idea is lending items out to people?

Sort of like a library however, instead of books it would lend out tools and such?

 

[weatherbill]

LOL