The only real solution in Gaza

[mtr1979]

There is only one long term solution to the situation in Gaza. The two million people that currently live there need to leave. This is better than the alternative of two million people being killed.

I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I'm a realist.

Where will these people go? The West Bank isn't feasible. They couldn't handle two million refugees. This would also create more drama with the hundreds of thousands of Israeli settlers.
The rest of the world will have to step up with the majority of the refugees going to western countries. The US will end up taking over one million.

If Trump gets it in his head that he will go down in history as a great guy for taking in a million refugees he will do it. He will also do as he is told.

The optics on this will not be good because ICE is going around arresting people. Yet we let over a million Palestinian refugees in. Trump will also have to drastically increase the amount of refugee visas. For example in 2025 only 125,000 refugee visas are slated to be issued. Those numbers will need to be increased.

To all of those who say that when Trump does this he will anger his base. At this point he doesn't care he isn't running for reelection.

 

[69360]

You obviously don't understand the Palestinians. They will not leave.

 

[PAF]

The U.S. should not have been involved before, and it should not be involved now. Though it is after the fact and many people have died, the U.S. should immediately walk away and leave that area alone. The government should also get TF out of the immigration business in and/or out once and for all as well as eliminate the ICE and DHS Cartels.

Since the U.S. meddled in the first place and supplied Israel money and weapons, and the people in Gaza have no other recourse, they should be able to choose whether to stay, or relocate, even to the U.S., in order to put their lives back together again.

Of course big Big Money and Cartels run the show and this will likely not happen, I am simply providing what the most ethical and logical solution should be from this point forward.

 

[Invisible Man]

There is only one long term solution to the situation in Gaza. The two million people that currently live there need to leave. This is better than the alternative of two million people being killed.

I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I'm a realist.

Where will these people go? The West Bank isn't feasible. They couldn't handle two million refugees. This would also create more drama with the hundreds of thousands of Israeli settlers.
The rest of the world will have to step up with the majority of the refugees going to western countries. The US will end up taking over one million.

If Trump gets it in his head that he will go down in history as a great guy for taking in a million refugees he will do it. He will also do as he is told.

The optics on this will not be good because ICE is going around arresting people. Yet we let over a million Palestinian refugees in. Trump will also have to drastically increase the amount of refugee visas. For example in 2025 only 125,000 refugee visas are slated to be issued. Those numbers will need to be increased.

To all of those who say that when Trump does this he will anger his base. At this point he doesn't care he isn't running for reelection.

OK. So you think this is in the interest of Gazans. I doubt they agree. But suppose they do, why would it be in the interest of the USA? What's in it for us, or for Trump, if he supports this?

 

[jmdrake]

There is only one long term solution to the situation in Gaza. The two million people that currently live there need to leave. This is better than the alternative of two million people being killed.

I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I'm a realist.

Where will these people go? The West Bank isn't feasible. They couldn't handle two million refugees. This would also create more drama with the hundreds of thousands of Israeli settlers.
The rest of the world will have to step up with the majority of the refugees going to western countries. The US will end up taking over one million.

If Trump gets it in his head that he will go down in history as a great guy for taking in a million refugees he will do it. He will also do as he is told.

The optics on this will not be good because ICE is going around arresting people. Yet we let over a million Palestinian refugees in. Trump will also have to drastically increase the amount of refugee visas. For example in 2025 only 125,000 refugee visas are slated to be issued. Those numbers will need to be increased.

To all of those who say that when Trump does this he will anger his base. At this point he doesn't care he isn't running for reelection.

Why do you care so much about the hundreds of thousands of illegal Israeli settlers? Since Trump cares so much about illegal immigration maybe he needs to send ICE to the West Bank.

 

[jmdrake]

The U.S. should not have been involved before, and it should not be involved now. Though it is after the fact and many people have died, the U.S. should immediately walk away and leave that area alone. The government should also get TF out of the immigration business in and/or out once and for all as well as eliminate the ICE and DHS Cartels.

Since the U.S. meddled in the first place and supplied Israel money and weapons, and the people in Gaza have no other recourse, they should be able to choose whether to stay, or relocate, even to the U.S., in order to put their lives back together again.

Of course big Big Money and Cartels run the show and this will likely not happen, I am simply providing what the most ethical and logical solution should be from this point forward.

But you know the drill. The U.S. creates the crisis, causes a refugee exodus, and then demonizes the refugees that come over hear even if they come over legally like those under TPS.

 

[wizardwatson]

Israel won't obey God, but Gaza should obey Satan?

Gaza is already a refugee camp. If they are going to kill you wherever you go, why leave? These people have experienced generational oppression at the hands of Israeli's. Are they supposed honor the sacrifices made by cowardly getting on the cattle trucks to the next kill zone?

 

[Dr.3D]

I seem to remember that area was once called Canaan. The people of Israel were told by God to kill all the men, women, children and animals in Canaan and take the land. God promised that land to the descendants of Abraham as a holding forever.

Sort of looks like history is going to repeat itself. There never was or will be a state of Palestine.

 

[TheTexan]

There is only one long term solution to the situation in Gaza. The two million people that currently live there need to leave. This is better than the alternative of two million people being killed.

I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I'm a realist.

You obviously don't understand the Palestinians. They will not leave.

You're both right.

The Gaza arabs need to leave but they won't, at least not by their choice.

Israel conquered them and their land a long time ago, and the best thing for everybody is for the gaza arabs to accept that and move on with their lives.

If they genuinely think they have a chance at defeating Israel, they should keep fighting, but I don't think even a single one of them actually believes that. I think they just want die in a holy war of battle for their 72 virgins

 

[jmdrake]

I seem to remember that area was once called Canaan. The people of Israel were told by God to kill all the men, women, children and animals in Canaan and take the land. God promised that land to the descendants of Abraham as a holding forever.

Sort of looks like history is going to repeat itself. There never was or will be a state of Palestine.

Even during the days of David and Solomon there was the land of the Philistines. Guess where it was? Modern day Gaza. In fact Gaza was the name of the Philistine cities. (See: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=Gaza&version=KJV) And the word "Palestine" is Greek for "Philistine." (See: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Philistine-people)

After the death of Solomon, the Kingdom was split in 2, Judea and Samaria. Samaria was also called "Israel." The Jews lived in Judea. This was God's "two state solution."

So why should modern Jews own Gaza and Samaria? The Samaritan people actually still exist. Give "Philistine" to the "Philistines (Palestinians)", give Judea to the people calling themselves Jews, and Samaria (Israel) back to the Samaritans. Problem solved.

Who were the Samaritans in the Bible and who are they today?

Let’s explore who the Samaritans were in the Bible, coupled with a look at the modern-day Samaritan community in Israel.

firmisrael.org

 

[Invisible Man]

I seem to remember that area was once called Canaan. The people of Israel were told by God to kill all the men, women, children and animals in Canaan and take the land. God promised that land to the descendants of Abraham as a holding forever.

Sort of looks like history is going to repeat itself. There never was or will be a state of Palestine.

Where in the world are the descendants of Abraham today? Do we have a way to identify any of them?

I would wager that any given Gazan has as much claim to being descended from Abraham, and not only Abraham, but also Isaac and Jacob, as any given citizen of the modern nation-state of Israel does.

 

[acptulsa]

If they genuinely think they have a chance at defeating Israel, they should keep fighting, but I don't think even a single one of them actually believes that. I think they just want die in a holy war of battle for their 72 virgins

 

[TheTexan]

Their last great act of defiance would have more honor if they killed Israeli soldiers rather than innocent-ish people at a night club.

But to each their own I guess

 

[mtr1979]

OK. So you think this is in the interest of Gazans. I doubt they agree. But suppose they do, why would it be in the interest of the USA? What's in it for us, or for Trump, if he supports this?

It isn't in the interest of the Gazans and it isn't in the interest of the USA. It isn't in the interest of anyone except Israel.

 

[mtr1979]

Israel won't obey God, but Gaza should obey Satan?

Gaza is already a refugee camp. If they are going to kill you wherever you go, why leave? These people have experienced generational oppression at the hands of Israeli's. Are they supposed honor the sacrifices made by cowardly getting on the cattle trucks to the next kill zone?

Cattle trucks? They will be flown first class to the United States. They will not be killed if they come to the US. The US is many things, but it isn't a kill zone.

 

[mtr1979]

Why do you care so much about the hundreds of thousands of illegal Israeli settlers? Since Trump cares so much about illegal immigration maybe he needs to send ICE to the West Bank.

I don't care about the settlers in the West Bank, but Israel does and that is all that matters. Trump will do and say nothing about this situation.

 

[acptulsa]

There is only one long term solution to the situation in Gaza. The two million people that currently live there need to leave.

The world does have a better idea. A much better idea.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[mtr1979]

The world does have a better idea. A much better idea.

I watched this video the guy said the same thing over and over for 14 minutes. How is this a solution? An airline carrier can't send war supplies to Israel because of legal ramifications. If anything Germany should be forced to take in 2 million people as refugees. Germany killed 6 million Jewish people in the Holocaust. Because of what Germany did in WW2 they should cease to exist as a people and a culture if you look deep enough and face reality that is all it has been ever about revenge.

 

[acptulsa]

Because of what Germany did in WW2 they should cease to exist as a people and a culture if you look deep enough and face reality that is all it has been ever about revenge.

A man after your own heart -- except he's really a Nazi lying to cover his ass...