The OFFICIAL Hightimes Ad Thread

Use the ad with RP picture by the American flag. The wording is more complete without saying "legalizing". I think this puts us on a more solid ground of what he actually said. I would change nothing in that ad -- looks great -- gives just enough information. :-)
 
It's not about character, it is about being professional. Wording needs to be perfect, spelling needs checked, facts and quotes need to be checked and sourced.

Count me out on this one. Good luck.


Hey now, I 'm a birdlover too! especially pilated woodpeckers You can donate. You're right about what you point out.


I particular don't like that quote on Paul saying legalizing drugs, I do however like that first quote very much, talking about not sending the federal government after indiviual marijuana users. (especially legal ones i might point out!)

There are a million artists out that would die to make this ad, we desperately need to alert the artist community online! I'm serious we'd have 100 submissions before sunup. :D
 
Use the ad with RP picture by the American flag. The wording is more complete without saying "legalizing". I think this puts us on a more solid ground of what he actually said. I would change nothing in that ad -- looks great -- gives just enough information. :-)

He says legalizing. He says END the War on Drugs.
Washington, DC -- For the second time since the federal government outlawed hemp farming in the United States, a federal bill has been introduced that would remove restrictions on the cultivation of non-psychoactive industrial hemp. The chief sponsor of H.R. 1009,

HEMP=Cannabis=Marijuana
 
He says legalizing. He says END the War on Drugs.


HEMP=Cannabis=Marijuana

thats misinformation.

I too, have never seen or heard a quote from Ron Paul saying he wants to legalize marijuana.

Socially, hemp is not marijuana. Hemp is the planty section of the plant. When people say "marijuana", they are referring to the flower.

It all comes from cannibis.


To say Ron Paul wants to legalize Marijuana, in my mind, is mis-quoting.
 
We'll lets just avoid the states issues all together, just keep the ad about what he would do about the federal government. He wants it federally legalized, states would still have the power to keep it illegal.
 
I have never heard RP say "I think Marijuana should be legalized" have you?

Yes he has, but he doesn't want a direct quote like that taken out of context for an ad, a statement like that has to have some detail and context you know what I mean?

this is the best one so far: http://urbanized.ca/ronpaul/paulad-webfx.jpg

I like this quote: "i would absolutely never sue the federal government to force the law on anyone using marijuana."

I think it should have a lot of color and a good vibe. Make it professional but most importantly effective. We could really make an unbelievably successful ad here guys. I say this as a professional.

Cody Evanks
 
ron paul says the federal government has no business regulating drugs. watch the ABC stossel interview
 
We'll lets just avoid the states issues all together, just keep the ad about what he would do about the federal government. He wants it federally legalized, states would still have the power to keep it illegal.

source?
 
Ron Paul's actual message is more than enough to win support from marijuana users. If he did nto specifically say he wants to legalize marijuana, DO NOT PUT IT IN THE AD.

That is journalistic dishonesty.

you cant go from "legalize industrial hemp" to "legalize hemp" to "legalize marijuana" to "Ron Paul gets stoned everyday."
 
Ron Paul's actual message is more than enough to win support from marijuana users. If he did nto specifically say he wants to legalize marijuana, DO NOT PUT IT IN THE AD.

That is journalistic dishonesty.

you cant go from "legalize industrial hemp" to "legalize hemp" to "legalize marijuana" to "Ron Paul gets stoned everyday."

LOL I am sorry, but that was funny in some weird way in my head. I almost spit the food I was eating. You are right.

Industrial hemp is not marijuana. I have never smoked and even I know that much. Industrial hemp is used as food, medicine, plastics, makeup, clothing, paper etc.
It is non-psychoactive and only contains tiny amounts of THC. You don't smoke industrial hemp...Facts need checked here.
 
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In the interview, we discussed prostitution, drug use and gay marriage. Paul says these are not things that the federal government should try to control.

"I think the government's role should not be involved in personal habits. When you defend freedom, you defend freedom of choice, and you can't be picking and choosing how people use those freedoms . . .whether it's personal behavior or economic behavior, I want people to have freedom of choice," Paul asserted.

He believes the constitution says such issues should be left to the states to decide, and if a state chooses to legalize marijuana, cocaine, heroin and/or prostitution, so be it.

Overview of the Stossel interview. He wants to remove federal drug laws. He wants to federally legalize all drugs. If the states want to keep them illegal, they can.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3970423&page=1





The Chip-In
 
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Overview of the Stossel interview. He wants to remove federal drug laws.

Yes and he is not going to be putting in a federal law saying that marijuana is now legal. That is what you are all implying to the readers of Hightimes, which is incorrect. He would leave it up to the states and that reader's individual state may choose to keep it illegal. That is out of our control. We know he will "End the war on drugs", but we can't say he is going to legalize marijuana because it is simply NOT true. Now he has come out directly and said that he wants all regulations off of industrial hemp, so that is okay to put out there. Industrial hemp is not cannabis=marijuana as a few of you are stating.
 
LOL I am sorry, but that was funny in some weird way in my head. I almost spit the food I was eating. You are right.

Industrial hemp is not marijuana. I have never smoked and even I know that much. Industrial hemp is used as food, medicine, plastics, makeup, clothing, paper etc.
It is non-psychoactive and only contains tiny amounts of THC. You don't smoke industrial hemp...Facts need checked here.

Educate yourself.
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cannabis_sativa.html
 
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Here is the corrected draft.

I incorporated as many changes as I could from the feedback. Some good ideas were not incorporated for one reason or another (space, focus, availability of images)



Points for discussion / outstanding issues:

* Some people suggested taking out the YouTube line, one person suggested just taking out the 2008 part. My feeling is the demographic reading HT is pretty web savvy and will respond to that call to action.


* There still seems to be some disagreement on how to word Dr. Paul's exact position on legalization of marijuana. We don't want to mislead anyone but at the same time the focus should be kept sharp. He wants to leave it to the states ... can anyone word this into a short sharp bullet point like the last one to replace it? If this can be done I am for that, otherwise I think it should be kept as is.

(Maybe "Ron Paul wants to end the federal prohibition on cannabis (marijuana)"?)


* Some people still want to have a poll/vote




GoRon2008: You are right that it is a very traditional looking ad -- I made a considered choice to approach it like that for a couple of reasons.

1) As opposed to trying to blend in with the style of the other ads in the magazine, this will be a marked departure and will stand out because of the contrast between it and the other ads in the magazine. It is a refreshing break of style for the eye for the reader from the rest of the ads for seeds, glassware, clothing, growing etc.

2) Minimization of possible blowback; we don't want something grungy looking (from a Republican primary voter's standpoint) that they can flash up on CNN or Fox during a hitpiece. We are disarming the MSM trolls under the bridge before they have a chance. (there is no liability to the appearance of this ad, it is clean and presidential)

3) The ad is intended to activate a subset of readers; those who can be motivated to register and vote in their state's primary to vote for Dr. Paul. This subset of people does not need to be pandered to, they just need to be presented with the facts in a clear way. (not saying you are pandering, just that we don't need to dress up RP with an underground look, the message is powerful enough to stand on it's own) -- the question is not, what will appeal to High Times readers, but more acutely, what will appeal to High Times readers who will take the information, act on it, and tell their friends.

4) Many people who read cannabis mags do so in two ways, either both or either or -- a) they are reading somewhere where they are away from a computer, such as on a bus or at school etc... the ad gives them enough information on it's own where, after reading it, they are pretty informed already, enough to talk to other people about it, without yet even going to the website. b) They settle in and enjoy them like a warm bath, cover to cover -- we don't have to worry about grabbing their attention in a sensational way -- the very fact that a politician, not to mention a candidate for president (!), not to mention a Republican (!!) is advertising in "their" magazine is sensational enough to grab their interest.



If there is anything I left out that anyone still feels strongly about, please hit me again. The more people that we can make happy, the greater a chance we have of pulling this thing off!



btw, I kicked in $10 myself also, I will put in more as we keep rolling too :D
 
LOL I am sorry, but that was funny in some weird way in my head. I almost spit the food I was eating. You are right.

Industrial hemp is not marijuana. I have never smoked and even I know that much. Industrial hemp is used as food, medicine, plastics, makeup, clothing, paper etc.
It is non-psychoactive and only contains tiny amounts of THC. You don't smoke industrial hemp...Facts need checked here.


its funny to me because I could see myself getting stoned with RP, sitting around the oval office, just kicking it, ya know?
 
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