The Official Ames Straw Poll Thread

Anyone consider the hidden, developing story here? Even if Ron doesn't get nominated, this revolution is like a slow-moving tsunami, that will change the gop (it already has). Think about how much has changed in the last 4 years, despite all the resistance? Now the resistance has become a divide. And the flow of "water" is and will continue to go in the Tea Party's direction until the other dries up. Now consider this: Rand Paul is better at politics than his father. He's a better speaker. He has the prestige as a senator. He's got name recognition that his father didn't have until now. He's one of the faces of the Tea Party. And right now, today, he is on the ground in Iowa, taking notes.

If Ron Paul doesn't become president in 2012, I would bet my life that Rand Paul gets nominated in 2016.
 
Nah I just still have a bitter taste in my mouth from New Hampshire the last go around. All of us on this board and supporters on the net so believed we were going to either going to win NH or come close and guess what? it wasn't even close. Why? Because we overestimated the number of supporters we were sending up there the weeks before to do get out the vote activities. I personally went up there in subzero degree temperature standing out in the snow handing out fliers going door to door canvassing and doing what I could but my first visit up there I knew we were in trouble.

There was a serious disconnect between what we were all talking about that was happening in NH and what was actuallly happening. This time around if you guys want a serious chance at winning it has to be more than just speculation or arm chair quarter backing at home. The money that was spent wastefully instead of bussing people and having the needed materials up in NH really pissed me off too. Instead we spent tens of thousands and probably more sending in money to the campaign and buying blimps could have been used on something more useful like getting hundreds and thousands of supporters and literally getting boots on the ground in states where we needed it to make a major impact early on in the 2008 campaign.

Blimp was $750K
 
I think you mean parry

And Palin. But I think Palin would be that group that bought a surprising amount of their own tickets per early reports. I see Perry voters as much more likely to use other people's tickets than Palin voters. But I'm only HOPING Perry voters used MBs tickets. I'm not really expecting first now. Hoping for second.
 
if ron wins there will be lots of cheering and some boos from the cons. I can guarantee foxnews will report the results using only the audio of the boos or will use the cpac audio boos. They will then say it does not mean anything, followed by wall to wall coverage of perry announcing his candidacy in endless rotation.

qft
 
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Note: rp belongs in the middle of those results.

Seriously? They left him out of that? I don't even remember that. I might not have been in it at that point, but ugh. That is pretty sick.
 
But that what Grassley meant. He outright said RP's support is "indestructible" and that while he didn't like his foreign policy, he is as good as anyone domestically. He also said the only way the party beats Obama is if they are unified. Connect the dots. Grassley indirectly said to Baier, "Look, if we don't get behind Paul, it's a guarantee of four more years of Barack Obama".

Maybe. It's that 'two exits' in a room thing.


Bunkloco
 
Collins on FB says results are coming "within seconds"

that was five minutes ago

results page via Drudge is frozen. too much traffic.
 
Anyone consider the hidden, developing story here? Even if Ron doesn't get nominated, this revolution is like a slow-moving tsunami, that will change the gop (it already has). Think about how much has changed in the last 4 years, despite all the resistance? Now the resistance has become a divide. And the flow of "water" is and will continue to go in the Tea Party's direction until the other dries up. Now consider this: Rand Paul is better at politics than his father. He's a better speaker. He has the prestige as a senator. He's got name recognition that his father didn't have until now. He's one of the faces of the Tea Party. And right now, today, he is on the ground in Iowa, taking notes.

If Ron Paul doesn't become president in 2012, I would bet my life that Rand Paul gets nominated in 2016.

I have said all along that the 45th President of the United States will either be Ron or Rand Paul. But if it's Rand, he'll have nothing left. It must be Ron.
 
Seriously? They left him out of that? I don't even remember that. I might not have been in it at that point, but ugh. That is pretty sick.

Don't forget they left him out of Nevada results when he finished second. They literally reported first place, and third.
 
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