The Official Ames Straw Poll Thread
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thehighwaymanq
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He needs to stop saying "Business cycle" and "liquidate debt" without explaining it.
Quotes:
"I've been bugging the Federal Reserve and Bernake for years"
"Perry part of status-quo and everybody knows that. He will dilute vote of conventional politicians."
"I keep talking about how horrible these wars are"
"In freedom we can find answers and in peace we can find prosperity."
"History is with me. Paper money never lasts. Most of history has picked gold"
"People are in the midst of losing faith in the fiat money system. There is going to be a demand in monetary reform"
"I want young people to be able to opt of social entitlements. Republicans want us opting out of Obamacare, we should opt out of Social Security. We can save enough money by bringing our troops home and not hurt those who are dependent on government welfare." (Summarized)
"[Rand Paul] He's pretty good with politics"
Quotes:
"I've been bugging the Federal Reserve and Bernake for years"
"Perry part of status-quo and everybody knows that. He will dilute vote of conventional politicians."
"I keep talking about how horrible these wars are"
"In freedom we can find answers and in peace we can find prosperity."
"History is with me. Paper money never lasts. Most of history has picked gold"
"People are in the midst of losing faith in the fiat money system. There is going to be a demand in monetary reform"
"I want young people to be able to opt of social entitlements. Republicans want us opting out of Obamacare, we should opt out of Social Security. We can save enough money by bringing our troops home and not hurt those who are dependent on government welfare." (Summarized)
"[Rand Paul] He's pretty good with politics"
libertyfanatic
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Just saw some pics from Bachmann's facebook page. It looks like they have a pretty big crowd.
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According to media, Bachmann is currently leading in attendees and volunteers.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/08/five-most-bitter-feuds-todays-iowa-straw-poll/41237/
Ron's buses are still on the road, many of them, still, I'm biting my fingernails. Before yesterday, second would have been fantastic, and it still is better than about half of the media says Ron is expected to do, but since Ron jumped in intrade....it will have as much negative press as positive, given the media slant to begin with.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/08/five-most-bitter-feuds-todays-iowa-straw-poll/41237/
Ron's buses are still on the road, many of them, still, I'm biting my fingernails. Before yesterday, second would have been fantastic, and it still is better than about half of the media says Ron is expected to do, but since Ron jumped in intrade....it will have as much negative press as positive, given the media slant to begin with.
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I'm not so sure. When he says business cycle (especially in debates) he usually leads with, "you need to know what the business cycle is...".
It is one of those things where he is attempting to get people to educate themselves. I would even wonder how many people searched for "what is the business cycle" after he said it in the debate. Liquidate debt I think is a concept that many people are familiar with, bankrupty/reorginization chap. 7/13 are pretty mainstream concepts.
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http://brenton76180.imgur.com/ames_for_ron_paul_2012#FzuP3 all of the pics in this album!
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I don't know. The average American voter will google Ron Paul, but I strongly doubt people will look into business cycle or debt liquidation. He needs to dumb down the message just a little.
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A tough and anxiety inducing day, to be sure. It's hard to get anything done today while waiting for the fateful hour.
Lots of rumors swirling around about the number of tickets sold by RP's campaign, but I haven't seen any sources?
Lots of rumors swirling around about the number of tickets sold by RP's campaign, but I haven't seen any sources?
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This is fantastic. Hope it is correct. If it is, even with 20K votes we would be at 25%
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It says that, but links to a Twitter post as its source that says nothing of the sort:
Some guy got interviewed on MSNBC from the straw poll...
Question from host: “What about the Ron Paul Factor? I’ve had some suggest here that he will come out on top. There’s a lot of buzz out there about him and he’s very organized.”
Charlie: “Ron Paul does well at straw polls but simply doesn’t win primaries and caucuses and the thing about Ron Paul, I’ve been to two of his events this week that he spoke at. You get a sense he’s not running to win the nomination or election, even though I’m sure he would take it. He’s got an agenda. He’s got issues he wants to talk about. I don’t think he’s under any delusion that he will win the republican nomination. He’s about advancing the issues that feel important to him. “
Question from host: “What about the Ron Paul Factor? I’ve had some suggest here that he will come out on top. There’s a lot of buzz out there about him and he’s very organized.”
Charlie: “Ron Paul does well at straw polls but simply doesn’t win primaries and caucuses and the thing about Ron Paul, I’ve been to two of his events this week that he spoke at. You get a sense he’s not running to win the nomination or election, even though I’m sure he would take it. He’s got an agenda. He’s got issues he wants to talk about. I don’t think he’s under any delusion that he will win the republican nomination. He’s about advancing the issues that feel important to him. “
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