The Official Alt Right Thread

[Origanalist]

Clearly you ignore the writings of the Founders. "For ourselves and our posterity", kind of lays out their view.

But hey keep thinking you can take in other groups and some how they will vote for Liberty when the math clearly proves you wrong.

Have fun with your ideas if America looks like on big California and nothing by leftist are in power, stealing your wealth, rights, and future.

I guess you have never been to the New England States.

 

[cajuncocoa]

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[RestorationOfLiberty]

The group that founded the USA is long since dead and buried.

If, and it's a great big if at this point, you can actually tie your linage to the group(s) of people who founded this country, what gives you the authority to claim stewardship for their actions?

Is there some law or edict with which you claim authority?

How many generations back is one permitted to go under this theory?

What of the generations that fell between "The Founding" and now? Which groups are permitted to claim stewardship?

You make statements as though they're fact and then query upon them, back up your assertions with the very least, an opinion....

Try to flesh out your position before stepping up, it's possible you might not sound like quite so much of an idiot.

Yes they are fact.

Whites, namely the Anglo Saxon Protestant founded America.

What we do claim is that the northern European and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But … [t]hey came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth but they did not make it, and they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not … It is a good country. It suits us. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different. If there is any changing to be done, we will do it ourselves.

They have no right to come in, claim it for themselves, and change/emulate it to their ends any more then you have the right to kick down the door your neighborhoods and remake his home.

Not sure why you open border/immigrationists/blank slaters can not understand that you will not turn Somalians, Pakistanis, Mexicans, etc into Americans but they will surely turn America into the same slums they fled from.

All you can do is scream "racist" as if it changes any facts...It does not.

These groups vote against you now, and will do so in the future, and as they increase in number they will increase in power but those gains can be prevented, their voting power denied as immigration will curtail the growth them as voter blocs.

Not sure why you are upset about speaking such facts.

 

[cajuncocoa]

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[acptulsa]

How is supporting the dispossession of a group by others that will vote away your rights a good thing?

It isn't. That's why we aren't with your program to do just that.

I divide Americans into two groups, those that support and are conductive to Liberty and those who are not, sorry if you can not see understand that some people are hostile and will destroy things you care about.

Too late to fool us into thinking that's your plan, you already admitted otherwise:

Sorry you guys can not understand or accept the fact that Whites have no desire or need to be replaced in our nations.

You seem to think atomization is needed for Liberty, it isn't.

You seem to think homogenization is liberty. It isn't.

Still no answer, I think we know we you do not provide one, its because you cant or your answer would tear asunder your egalitarian views as they are wrong and detached from reality.

Answer? To the question at the top of your post? I was supposed to answer the question before you posted it?

You know we have an answer to every scrap of your shit. Which is why you pretend that you didn't get an answer before you even get the question asked.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

You're thicker than I thought. I've responded to your posts, yet you accuse me of running away. I guess I see why you might easily feel threatened by others.

What is it about individualism vs collectivism that you do not understand? Is it a foreign concept to you to see people one by one rather than as part of a group? If a non-white person walks into the room with you right now, is it even possible for you to withhold judgment about that person until you get to know him or her, or do you automatically start to believe certain things before that person even opens his/her mouth to speak?

I would mind greatly, I am at home and not expecting anyone over. Are you pro home invasion? LOL.

If I found out they vote for leftist polices could I then hate them?

No, I believe in giving people an honest chance but I see no reason to associate with people who hate or work to undermine my culture, nation, values, rights, wealth, future, posterity, etc.

 

[acptulsa]

Yes they are fact.

Whites, namely the Anglo Saxon Protestant founded America.

What we do claim is that the northern European and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But … [t]hey came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth...

When did the Muscogee emigrate in? The Seminole? The Iriquois? The Nez Perce? The Lakota?

I would mind greatly, I am at home and not expecting anyone over. Are you pro home invasion? LOL.

If I found out they vote for leftist polices could I then hate them?

No, I believe in giving people an honest chance but I see no reason to associate with people who hate or work to undermine my culture, nation, values, rights, wealth, future, posterity, etc.

All of the people I mentioned above would certainly say you are pro-home invasion. And they'd be right.

I hope you're not stupid enough to try to sell your tripe as some kind of system of morality.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I guess you have never been to the New England States.

Never said all white would equal Liberty by default.


Does anyone sincerely believe that on top of the intra-racial diversity, somehow increasing multi-racial diversity is going to build a better society?

What about adding tens of millions of Low IQed people that need the welfare state to live?

What about adding people of a faith that says its ok to lie, cheat, steal, and murder people and who routinely do things that give the state and its sheeple supporters an excuse to strip us of our rights?

 

[CaptUSA]

Yes they are fact.

Whites, namely the Anglo Saxon Protestant founded America.

What we do claim is that the northern European and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But … [t]hey came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth but they did not make it, and they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not … It is a good country. It suits us. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different. If there is any changing to be done, we will do it ourselves.

They have no right to come in, claim it for themselves, and change/emulate it to their ends any more then you have the right to kick down the door your neighborhoods and remake his home.

Not sure why you open border/immigrationists/blank slaters can not understand that you will not turn Somalians, Pakistanis, Mexicans, etc into Americans but they will surely turn America into the same slums they fled from.

All you can do is scream "racist" as if it changes any facts...It does not.

These groups vote against you now, and will do so in the future, and as they increase in number they will increase in power but those gains can be prevented, their voting power denied as immigration will curtail the growth them as voter blocs.

Not sure why you are upset about speaking such facts.

 

[cajuncocoa]

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[RestorationOfLiberty]

When did the Muscogee emigrate in? The Seminole? The Iriquois? The Nez Perce? The Lakota?

Around 5000 years after the solutreans landed on the East Coast.

All of the people I mentioned above would certainly say you are pro-home invasion. And they'd be right.

I hope you're not stupid enough to try to sell your tripe as some kind of system of morality.

So you are saying immigration is not all sunshine and rainbows?

Funny I thought I could not take credit for the actions of past generations but some how I can only take the blame? Not happening.

http://www.amerika.org/politics/the-false-genocide-of-amerinds-based-on-pleasant-illusions/

So if this land is stolen is your obligation as a moral superior person not to give your share of "stolen property" back?

So when are you giving back your share?

Oh, your are not? Well then maybe you are not as moral as you claim.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Your point? Are non of the issues of immigration valid then or now.

 

[acptulsa]

Never said all white would equal Liberty by default.

You did say this:

Sorry you guys can not understand or accept the fact that Whites have no desire or need to be replaced in our nations.

And now you are saying stuff like this:

Does anyone sincerely believe that on top of the intra-racial diversity, somehow increasing multi-racial diversity is going to build a better society?

What about adding tens of millions of Low IQed people that need the welfare state to live?

What about adding people of a faith that says its ok to lie, cheat, steal, and murder people and who routinely do things that give the state and its sheeple supporters an excuse to strip us of our rights?

I know that this society has historically thrived only on liberty--and those portions of the nation that denied liberty have generally been the poorest. I know there are people of color on this very forum who are pro liberty, and that I'm looking at a white person who is anti-liberty. I know that if I were a non-individualist and a collectivist like you are I would be favoring people of your totalitarian mindset over individuals who do not sunburn, but who are pro-liberty. And I know I'm not stupid enough to let you talk me into doing something that self-defeating.

You'll get over it.

 

[tod evans]

Yes they are fact.

Dead? Are you agreeing that the founders of the USA are dead?

Whole, complete sentences help everyone understand what point(s) you are trying to make.

Whites, namely the Anglo Saxon Protestant founded America.

If I'm following correctly? Your assertion is that because the founders of the USA were "Whites, namely the Anglo Saxon Protestant"
that this skin color ties you directly to their bloodline(s)....

Well kiddo I'll call hooey on this right now!
With the literally thousands of other white bloodlines in the world chances are you don't have even 1/100th of 1% of founder-blood coursing through your veins.

What we do claim is that the northern European and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But … [t]hey came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth but they did not make it, and they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not … It is a good country. It suits us. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different. If there is any changing to be done, we will do it ourselves.

Help me understand who this "We" is of whom you speak?
I'm picturing some socially inept young man sitting all alone claiming to type for an untold number of others of like mind....
If there are in fact others then please invite them to participate, hopefully one of them will have mastered the English language.

They have no right to come in, claim it for themselves, and change/emulate it to their ends any more then you have the right to kick down the door your neighborhoods and remake his home.

Who are "They" and what specifically are they claiming for themselves?
Come on man! Try to be just a tad bit clearer, okay?

Not sure why you open border/immigrationists/blank slaters can not understand that you will not turn Somalians, Pakistanis, Mexicans, etc into Americans but they will surely turn America into the same slums they fled from.

What in the world ever gave you the idea that I was an "open border/immigrationists/blank slater"?
Certainly not anything I've typed over the last 8 years.....

All you can do is scream "racist" as if it changes any facts...It does not.

Here you go again!
Use the quote function or SHUT THE FUCK UP! with the misquotes.

These groups vote against you now, and will do so in the future, and as they increase in number they will increase in power but those gains can be prevented, their voting power denied as immigration will curtail the growth them as voter blocs.

English young man! Study and learn to use it when conversing on discussion boards based in the USA.
The preceding blather is incomprehensible.

Not sure why you are upset about speaking such facts.

Once again I'm not "upset" about you expressing your opinions, however it flat pisses me off when you try to attribute opinions or beliefs to me that I haven't expressed.

Work on your stances beyond "I'm White"..............That's as idiotic as "I'm Black", or Red/Yellow or Green.....

You've come completely unprepared to engage in a discussion about what you're entitled to by virtue of birth.......

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Where did I say anything about someone coming into your home against your will? Do you understand the concept of hypothetical thinking?

Why do you feel the need to hate someone just because they vote a certain way? I have friends (white friends, by the way) who vote for Leftist candidates. But they're my friends, and I love them. I put friendship ahead of politics. But that's where you draw the line. That's your choice, but you should know...there are people in YOUR culture and race voting against your interests, and there are people who are not part of your race and culture who share your beliefs. That's why you shouldn't stereotype people.

Do you not understand the concept of banter and joking?

Because their actions undermine my freedoms, my rights, they dim my future, they steal from my wealth, they increase regulations on industry, increasing the cost of living, growing the state for mindless reasons without end.

The attack people for just having a opinion which is not theirs, yet they claim the people who are attacked are some how the criminal and the criminal the victim.

They support increasing the influx of people that are reducing our nation into a 3rd world slum.

We can not solve any problems with them around us, even communication of such things is not possible.

Why would I want such people, who inflict such harm by their actions (voting or otherwise) in my life?

Oh I understand that very clearly. The traitors are not members of my race, their actions are proven such.

As for the non whites, if they want to stay great but no special treatment of any kind.

 

[acptulsa]

Around 5000 years after the solutreans landed on the East Coast.

So, some people here discovered some simple stoneworking techniques about twenty centuries after people in Europe had moved beyond them, and it proves what to you, exactly...?

So you are saying immigration is not all sunshine and rainbows?

Funny I thought I could not take credit for the actions of past generations but some how I can only take the blame? Not happening.

http://www.amerika.org/politics/the-false-genocide-of-amerinds-based-on-pleasant-illusions/

So if this land is stolen is your obligation as a moral superior person not to give your share of "stolen property" back?

So when are you giving back your share?

Oh, your are not? Well then maybe you are not as moral as you claim.

So, I refuse to accept the thing you claim as moral (not allowing newcomers to have any say at all in the governance of a land) and therefore I am not moral by my standards?

Well, that was cute. What's your next trick? You going to claim I'm not white, now, just because you're white and I think you're full of shit?

That goofy shit has been tried too.

Do you not understand the concept of banter and joking?

When someone is funny in a straightforward fashion, that is banter. When someone is funny because they say things in all earnestness which make no sense whatsoever, that could be parody, or it could be ironic, or it could be just plain sad. But it is not banter.

Because their actions undermine my freedoms, my rights, they dim my future, they steal from my wealth, they increase regulations on industry, increasing the cost of living, growing the state for mindless reasons without end.

And no one with eyes and ears could possibly think race, or creed, or national origin are accurate predictors of whether an individual will do these things or not.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

You did say this:



And now you are saying stuff like this:



I know that this society has historically thrived only on liberty--and those portions of the nation that denied liberty have generally been the poorest. I know there are people of color on this very forum who are pro liberty, and that I'm looking at a white person who is anti-liberty. I know that if I were a non-individualist and a collectivist like you are I would be favoring people of your totalitarian mindset over individuals who do not sunburn, but who are pro-liberty. And I know I'm not stupid enough to let you talk me into doing something that self-defeating.

You'll get over it.

You can not be pro Liberty if you support allowing in hordes of millions of future leftist voters into America.

How am I anti Liberty? Because I would keep out groups that will displace me? Because they will vote against?

Please...Such actions are self defense and totally just.

 

[acptulsa]

You can not be pro Liberty if you support allowing hordes of millions of future leftist voters into a nation, but nation.

How am I anti Liberty? Because I would keep out groups that will displace me? Because they will vote against?

Please...Such actions are self defense and totally just.

I do not believe you can predict the future. I have seen a great many immigrants who could well be future leftists, and I have seen a great many immigrants who very well understood why regulation was bad, wanted nothing more than liberty to achieve, and would fight the sort of totalitarian stuff they left behind tooth and nail.

And I don't want you to prejudge these people and reject them out of hand.

If you want to say don't let immigrants in until the people who are already here pull their heads out of their asses, remember that only liberty can make this economy hum, and fix it, and let harmless pot smokers out of jail and get them jobs, and then see if we need help filling out our labor force, I could see that argument. But when you sit there and say all furriners are leftist welfare queen nonwhite underachieving idiots, what I see is a foreign, underachieving, idiotic argument which I have no intention of buying into.

There. I think this thread is sufficiently vaccinated. Why not let the KKKontingent blather in it all they want? I don't see anyone reading it and thinking these trolls represent Ron Paul's views unless they start reading on page 6.

 

[cajuncocoa]

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[RestorationOfLiberty]

Dead? Are you agreeing that the founders of the USA are dead?

Whole, complete sentences help everyone understand what point(s) you are trying to make.



If I'm following correctly? Your assertion is that because the founders of the USA were "Whites, namely the Anglo Saxon Protestant"
that this skin color ties you directly to their bloodline(s)....


Well kiddo I'll call hooey on this right now!
With the literally thousands of other white bloodlines in the world chances are you don't have even 1/100th of 1% of founder-blood coursing through your veins.

Gasping at straws this soon..Not a good sign.

What in the world ever gave you the idea that I was an "open border/immigrationists/blank slater"?
Certainly not anything I've typed over the last 8 years.....

Talking about those groups as a whole, never said you were by name did I?

Once again I'm not "upset" about you expressing your opinions, however it flat pisses me off when you try to attribute opinions or beliefs to me that I haven't expressed.

Work on your stances beyond "I'm White"..............That's as idiotic as "I'm Black", or Red/Yellow or Green.....

You've come completely unprepared to engage in a discussion about what you're entitled to by virtue of birth.......

Oh so its not ok for people claim things about you are not true?

Says the man who can not give a fact based answer while claim it would be beyond comprehension.

So, some people here discovered some simple stoneworking techniques about twenty centuries after people in Europe had moved beyond them, and it proves what to you, exactly...?

Dude, research it on your own.

So, I refuse to accept the thing you claim as moral (not allowing newcomers to have any say at all in the governance of a land) and therefore I am not moral by my standards?

Well, that was cute. What's your next trick? You going to claim I'm not white, now, just because you're white and I think you're full of $#@!?

That goofy $#@! has been tried too.

No, we are not not allowing newcomers to have any say at all, we are just refusing them entry into the nation. You do understand you can read my posts, then reply back, right?