The Next Ron Paul

[dr. hfn]

wtf lol

 

[klamath]

Gary Johnson is not even close to the same league as RP. RP has had national name recognition for years to all libertarian Republicans and a large donor base from around the country. I know a lot of people don't want to admit it but RP's votes are most likely going to come from Huckabee and Rommney voters. The religous right voters family values voter in the republican primaries. This was proved in Nevada when Romney dropped out. His delegates went to RP. Gary Johnson will turn those voters off. To the religous right he matches NY Rudy.
Pro abortion, cheated on his wife. Rudy was really pretty fiscally conservative and strong prowar when the republican electorate was still strong prowar but because of his first two stands he did worse than most of the other republicans including RP.
Add to the fact that Johnson was a heavy pot user means he is not going over well with the RR.
If the libertarians want to give the middle finger to the religous right in the Republican primaries then they might just as well run Johnson in the libertarian party.
The decision on whether RP is to old is RP's decision. I don't care if people want to promote GJ around here but if they start promoting GJ over RP on the RP forums don't expect me to be cheering.

 

[Flash]

1) Not all Reptilians are evil.
2) To the original poster, will you ask him if he will endorse Kokesh for congress? And does his Our America PAC only apply to New Mexico?

 

[constituent]

Despite how good of an idea it may seem, I can only think we'll just end up with another, 'Who is Gary Johnson?' campaign and get a repeat blackout shutout of '08.

That's the spirit! In fact, it was precisely this attitude that made the RP2008 grassroots campaign everything that it was. Where would we be if it weren't for this defeatist attitude in mid 2007?

 

[constituent]

No mustachio? A win any way you slice it!

 

[Kludge]

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[Gaius1981]

Here's a video of Gary Johnson reducing the number of federal employees deep within an underground government facility in New Mexico. I think he did it in a way which Ventura would approve of.

YouTube - Fallout 3 - Gary?

 

[malkusm]

The problem is, he has so much personal baggage that he'll be easy for other Republicans to take down in the primary. His name ID is also incredibly low. He would need to outspend everyone else and get past his personal life problems in order to be any kind of factor.

This all might be true....but you're sort of assuming that any "liberty-minded" candidate that runs won't endure similar scrutiny.

Hell, Ron Paul has one of the cleanest track records, best background and family life there is, and they still found a way to smear him. When that wasn't enough, they blacked him out.

Guess what? We still influenced millions and made them think. Gary Johnson should run and we should support him. Ron Paul should run and we should support him, too. I don't think winning the Presidency is attainable at this stage, like Kludge said - we need to build from the ground up (state/local elections)....but the more voices we have advocating our message, the better.

 

[Original_Intent]

I would venture to say that the next Ron Paul is probably someone not nationally known at the moment. It could be the guy that is our temporary state chairman of the C4L here in Utah, Lowell Nelson. The guy has no political ambition as far as I can tell, but he knows his stuff at a Ron Paul level and actually can speak on "liberty topics" off the cuff better than Ron Paul imho. There's probably thousands out there like him. I think once people wake up and stop letting the media dictate to us who is "presidential enough" or who to take seriously, I think we could see a complete overhaul of the people currently in office and replaced with some real statesmen. They are out there.

Frankly, Rand and Peter Schiff are the only two politicians that I know much about that even hold a candle to Dr. Paul. Jason Chavvetz (R-UT) seems to be shaping up pretty well. I think we will be seeing a lot more instances of the old neocons getting replaced with fresh, liberty-minded people.

And hopefully we will have the original around for many years to come.

 

[Theocrat]

The One and Only

There is only one Ron Paul.

 

[cindy25]

1) there is only one Ron Paul, but no one is immortal.
2) Rand, should he win the senate seat, could be the next generation. senators are always taken more seriously than congressmen, and Rand on a 2012 or 2016 ticket is not far fetched if he preforms well in the senate.

 

[RM918]

That's the spirit! In fact, it was precisely this attitude that made the RP2008 grassroots campaign everything that it was. Where would we be if it weren't for this defeatist attitude in mid 2007?

It's defeatist to call throwing out all the recognition that's been built a bad idea?

 

[jmdrake]

Not a good sign:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Turner

Looking at the fact that his campaign manager was a CFR member? Cause that's the only negative thing I saw. Anyway I wouldn't through someone under the bus solely based on guilt by association. But I agree it's not good.

 

[dr. hfn]

There is only one Ron Paul.

so are you going to quit when Ron Paul is done? Sunshine Patriot?

 

[dr. hfn]

Ron Paul has one more chance to run for President and that is 2012...but I really like Gary...maybe we should run many candidates...and then support the last man standing...

 

[tajitj]

Gary Johnson has a better chance of winning than Ron Paul does. I think Paul realizes this and will end up backing someone and not running. He will throw his name out there and rally the troops but end up not filing. He might even file and get into the debates but pull out before voting. That happens all the time, he and Gary could have a little agreement to drop out and endorse the other depending on what polling is looking like.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Ron 2012 or bust. So much for this being a Ron Paul forum, eh...

Johnson is no Austrian.

 

[jmdrake]

Ron 2012 or bust. So much for this being a Ron Paul forum, eh...

Johnson is no Austrian.

So all you have to be is Austrian to get your vote?

(And yes I know you're talking about economics and not country of origin. I'm just being a prick)

 

[jmdrake]

Ron Paul has one more chance to run for President and that is 2012...but I really like Gary...maybe we should run many candidates...and then support the last man standing...

Uhhh...let's not. Remember the Barr / Baldwin wars on RPF in 2008?

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

So all you have to be is Austrian to get your vote?

(And yes I know you're talking about economics and not country of origin. I'm just being a prick)

Come on, kill me! Nyahhhh! It's always good to throw in humour.