The Next Moneybomb -- August or September?

When should the next money bomb be?

  • August 20th (Ron Paul's birthday)

    Votes: 28 43.1%
  • September 17th (Constitution Day)

    Votes: 37 56.9%

  • Total voters
    65
August or September (or both)?

We all agree the campaign needs as much money as possible, as soon as possible. Everyone who can give now should do so, without waiting for a future moneybomb.

That being said, the moneybombs clearly work. The question is how to make them work better, and what strategy will maximize our Q3 numbers. Please vote in the poll.
 
YES!

This is exactly the case. I'm afraid too many people are getting wrapped up with the "let's set another record!" fervor and are forgetting that the goal here is to WIN, not to set records.

The campaign needs the money NOW. If all we want to do is set records with some moneybomb in December, we're going to lose. It's that simple.

Why not set records? I thought the purpose was to give Ron Paul more money, not less. These minibombs every 2 or 3 weeks is killing our donations. We need to wait before the next one. Have we not learned anything over the last 3 months?

Constitution Day pros:
1) Great theme. Everyone will be willing to give for the Constitution. I think this has the potential to have the appeal of another Tea Party bomb.
2) Gives people time to save up. If anything, we need to learn to stop being obsessive-compulsive about the moneybombs and stop abusing them. Yes, Ron needs money now, but he HAS money now. We will keep giving until Constitution Day if we can, but we are nowhere near tapped out on donations, and having a huge moneybomb day, IMO, would outweigh any negative effects of waiting.
3) It capitalizes on the depth of our donor base. We can't expect to abandon moneybombs and still tap out our resources as much as possible. This is a big moneybomb that would allow us to tap out much of our base and keep the campaign funded. I don't think it's too late, since it's only less than a month apart from the August 20th one. It's potential to make big bucks encourages people to spend as much as they can and will help us get as much out of our base of donors as we possibly can before moving into the fourth quarter which I believe will be big no matter what.
4) The added press coverage for raising a lot of money on this well-themed, well-timed moneybomb will only help.
cons:

1)doesn't capitalize on Ames momentum. Of course, this is if we win. We had better, and that's all I have to say about that. Personally, I think either of them will capitalize on the Iowa success, but I think the Constitution Day bomb is better because it gives us a little bump in donations after the victory at Ames and then a well-timed super moneybomb right in the middle of the month only a few days before our end-of-the-quater push, which is, of course, balls to the wall at that point.

August 20th pros:

1) Ron's birthday. Woot. But seriously, the age question is not attention we need to be getting for ourselves. It's just not a good idea.
2) It capitalizes on Ames success. See above about capitalizing on this. Either will work, but Constitution Day is better.

August 20th cons:

1) Ron's age problem. 'Nuff said. We don't want to make that a central issue in any event.
2) All it does is focus on the man, not the idea. That's why the Constitution Day serves the purpose so much better. It focuses on the idea. That was the thing about the two major moneybombs in the last election cycle. They focused on the idea. Let's not get all sentimental and lose that core value. Always focus on the right thing to do and make that the theme. Doing a birthday bomb is going a bit too far in my opinion.
3) It's too soon. We should have learned that we can't just keep doing these bombs willy-nilly and hither-thither as if we had no sense of self-control and couldn't stop doing moneybombs in the interest of a much more logical date like September 17th to encourage people to save and go big.

Don't eliminate the moneybombs, don't discourage them. Don't act like we need to have one every 2 weeks. It just won't work. It won't raise enough money, and the added press coverage can't hurt. Constitution Day is the best day. Count on it and pass it on.

Also, keep in mind that, in 2007, we didn't have ANY moneybombs until freakin' november. September is plenty early and serves the purpose quite well.
 
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How about plan on having the money bomb in September, but then if we win Ames we can have one both in August and September.

Ditto.

A win in Ames is a MUST & when we win it then it must be milked immediately while people's memory is fresh, it might also get some of the Ron Paul supporters from the last cycle, who are sitting on the fence right now, to donate as well if they realize that this time things are going to be different & their hopes are re-ignited.
 
Ditto.

A win in Ames is a MUST & when we win it then it must be milked immediately while people's memory is fresh, it might also get some of the Ron Paul supporters from the last cycle, who are sitting on the fence right now, to donate as well if they realize that this time things are going to be different & their hopes are re-ignited.

I never understood this. Why do you think people will forget something a month after it happened? If they were that shallow, then they weren't real supporters in the first place.
 
I would say not on his birthday,seemingly he doesn't like this stuff to be "about him" its "about the cause, about the campaign for liberty".
 
No. September 17th is best.

no, it's really not.

Why would have a moneybomb within a couple of weeks of the end of quarter push? it makes no sense at all.

a mid august moneybomb with a end of quarter push in late september is better positioned to bring in money than a moneybomb within a couple weeks of the end of quarter push.
 
Why would have a moneybomb within a couple of weeks of the end of quarter push? it makes no sense at all.

A mid-September moneybomb that is a big success will get a lot of attention, and drag in new donors for the end of quarter push.

Make the pledges $100, like for the Nov. 5th 2007 moneybomb, and keep track of them on the moneybomb website.
 
Looks like 9/17 is winning on both major polls. There was a very successful end of quarter push in December 2007, right after the six-million-dollar 12/16 Tea Party anniversary money bomb, so the closeness to the end of the quarter shouldn't be a concern. A big, exciting money bomb will actually draw new people into donating at the end of the quarter, as happened four years ago.
 
So, has the campaign given any hint of their preference to more or fewer big ones? I'd guess they'd say more b/c the quarter totals seem more impressive than a single event, but I don't know.
 
I don't agree with a Birthday Bomb. This campaign shouldn't be about Ron Paul, it should be about getting his conservative/libertarian ideology elected, right?
 
I don't agree with a Birthday Bomb. This campaign shouldn't be about Ron Paul, it should be about getting his conservative/libertarian ideology elected, right?

I agree, it also unnecessarily brings attention to his age, the MSM would've a field-day REPEATEDLY stating "his 76th birthday, if he becomes president then he'll be the oldest one to take office at 77"; NOT good when one considers that a lot of people ALREADY have this belief that "he's too old".

But I do think we should cash on Ames victory so may it should be couple of days after Ron wins the Ames straw poll, there's good chance that we will win it & we shouldn't let the opportunity go begging. His victory might create a lot of enthusiam & a lot of the Ron Paul supporters from 2007 who've on the fence so far might join in & donate & it might also convince "I like him but he can't win" people that Ron CAN win big events & they might donate too so we MUST have one after Ames but NOT on Ron's birthday.

Just my two cents.
 
I have 84 and 87 year old men riding a racehorse beside me during training hours.

WTF is the problem with his age again ?
 
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