The new Gary Johnson ad

[RJ Liberty]

This ad was released for July 4th, but it only recently received some attention from the MSM, and only got posted to Twitter by the LP on July 8th. One site said it gave them goosebumps. Christian website Caffeinated Thoughts is calling it "brilliant".

 

[LibertyEagle]

Since I don't support the traitorous Trans Pacific Partnership or world government, I will take Johnson's advice and not vote for him. Thanks Gary.

 

[Working Poor]

Since I don't support the traitorous Trans Pacific Partnership or worlsd government, I will take Johnson's advice and not vote for him. Thanks Gary.

I guess you don't think Trump will have his arms twisted if he gets elected.

 

[RandallFan]

Trump is 70 years old. He doesn't care. Johnson is 50 years old, rides bicycles & climbs mountains. I know which guy can be bought or deluded into thinking everyone wants utopia built.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I guess you don't think Trump will have his arms twisted if he gets elected.

There is certainly a chance. But, there is absolutely 0 chance Johnson/Weld won't vote for it. They have already stated they will.

 

[acptulsa]

The ad's not bad, though I don't understand why he didn't say 'Look me up on the web' at the end instead of giving Google a free plug.

There is certainly a chance. But, there is absolutely 0 chance Johnson/Weld won't vote for it. They have already stated they will.

Could this possibly be the same person who runs about the forum taking people to task for allegedly misrepresenting the positions of a certain other candidate?

“It is my understanding that the TPP does advance free trade,” says Johnson, “Is it a perfect document? Probably not. But based on my understanding of the document, I would be supporting it [though] in a perfect world there wouldn’t be a document like that, there would just be free trade.”

Not exactly an unqualified endorsement, considering it's 'based on (his current) understanding of the document'. In any case, it is anything but an ironclad promise to sign it into law in the event he's elected.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

The ad's not bad, though I don't understand why he didn't say 'Look me up on the web' at the end instead of giving Google a free plug.

A shout-out to Ron Paul people. He used the same term in an interview I saw. "Google Gary Johnson!" Remember the Blimp!

Not exactly an unqualified endorsement, considering it's 'based on (his current) understanding of the document'. In any case, it is anything but an ironclad promise to sign it into law in the event he's elected.

True. A very fair point. This particular statement is nuanced and moderate, not a complete endorsement of the TPP.

 

[acptulsa]

A shout-out to Ron Paul people. He used the same term in an interview I saw. "Google Gary Johnson!" Remember the Blimp!

Yeah, I caught that. I still don't think Google really needs the advertising.

True. A very fair point. This particular statement is nuanced and moderate, not a complete endorsement of the TPP.

I'm sure the Trump supporters don't consider it a fair point, because they all really like shouting hyperbole, then responding to anything anyone says with 'That's hyperbole!' in a perfect passive-aggressive manner. Or it would be, if hyperbole weren't too big a word for most of them to understand.

The fact is, Johnson doesn't know what's in the TPP, we don't know what's in it, and Trump doesn't know what's in it. Which makes it funny that Trump came out against it. After all, the whole sum total of Trump's foreign and economic policy is to 'cut better deals for America', and if all the difference the TPP actually makes is to allow the U.S. to export goods to the traditionally protected markets of the Orient, it is a better deal for America.

Of course, I don't know if that's all it is. All I know is that Johnson did not ever once say there was zero chance he would ever vote against it.

 

[dannno]

There is certainly a chance. But, there is absolutely 0 chance Johnson/Weld won't vote for it. They have already stated they will.

Interesting..

https://www.isidewith.com/candidate-guide/gary-johnson/economic/trans-pacific-partnership


He seems wish-washy on it to me. He was against it, then his advisers told him that on the balance it would help advance free trade even though it isn't all good and isn't totally free market.

I think he would actually read it before he signed it, and if they tried to slip in some BS last minute then I don't think he would let that pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if in its current state, the TPP advances free trade, on the balance, and GJ's "advisers" may be correct that it does. But they always slip in the really bad stuff right at the end, and I trust Gary Johnson more than anybody else running to oppose anything egregious that may be added last minute.

Trump says he is against it now, but I don't know what the guy's motivations are and he doesn't communicate that he really understands a lot about free markets. Maybe he does and he is keeping it secret or something, I just don't have the guy pinned.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The ad's not bad, though I don't understand why he didn't say 'Look me up on the web' at the end instead of giving Google a free plug.

Could this possibly be the same person who runs about the forum taking people to task for allegedly misrepresenting the positions of a certain other candidate?

Not exactly an unqualified endorsement, considering it's 'based on (his current) understanding of the document'. In any case, it is anything but an ironclad promise to sign it into law in the event he's elected.

Did he, or did he not say, that he intended to approve the TPP, if President? Yes or no?


6 minute mark

 

[acptulsa]

Did he, or did he not say, that he intended to approve the TTP, if President? Yes or no?

He did not say whether or not he intended to support it as president.

Unlike Trump, he seems to be intent on reading the thing before making an unequivocal yes or no decision on it. And since it's top secret and he isn't allowed to read it at the moment, he has said he believes in free trade and if it promotes free trade then and only then he is for it.

If all it functionally does is open Oriental markets to our goods, and Trump has said he wants to make better deals for America, and that would be a better deal for America, was Trump wrong to reject it even though he, too, has not read it? Yes or no?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Interesting..

https://www.isidewith.com/candidate-guide/gary-johnson/economic/trans-pacific-partnership

He seems wish-washy on it to me. He was against it, then his advisers told him that on the balance it would help advance free trade even though it isn't all good and isn't totally free market.

I think he would actually read it before he signed it, and if they tried to slip in some BS last minute then I don't think he would let that pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if in its current state, the TPP advances free trade, on the balance, and GJ's "advisers" may be correct that it does. But they always slip in the really bad stuff right at the end, and I trust Gary Johnson more than anybody else running to oppose anything egregious that may be added last minute.

Trump says he is against it now, but I don't know what the guy's motivations are and he doesn't communicate that he really understands a lot about free markets. Maybe he does and he is keeping it secret or something, I just don't have the guy pinned.

Danno, you need to check it out more. It would cede even more of our sovereignty to international ruling bodies.

 

[acptulsa]

Danno, you need to check it out more. It would cede even more of our sovereignty to international ruling bodies.

Oh, so you have read it. By all means, post it so we can read it too.

Mods, can we get a split thread? Because once again LE seems intent on hijacking a thread, and it seems to me this one is supposed to be about a television commercial...

 

[LibertyEagle]

He did not say whether or not he intended to support it as president.

Oh yes, he did. This is what he said:

Based on people that have been advising me, that I do hold in very high esteem, I'm being told that the Trans Pacific Partnership would in fact advance free trade, and so I would support that document.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Who has seen this add on cable tv? (mainstream tv)

 

[acptulsa]

Oh yes, he did. This is what he said:

He would based on what he was told about it.

Now tell me where he said he will regardless of what he finds when he reads it.

You are so busy trying to stir up a lynch mob that you're completely ignoring the intricacies of the English language. But to anyone with ears to hear, he is only saying that he supports much of what he has heard about it. Which is not the same thing. Candidates do this all the time. He is for free trade, he has heard this supports free trade, if it does then he's for it. How else can a candidate reveal his position on something he is not allowed to read? To take a poll of his supporters (who also don't know what the hell's in the thing) and make an unequivocal statement based on the result? Is that any way to run a nation?

Now. Care to share how you happen to know this treaty will 'cede even more of our sovereignty to international ruling bodies'?

 

[LibertyEagle]

lol. Whatever you say, Tulsa.

 

[Working Poor]

I am voting for GJ I want to see if someone who claims to be anti-war can pull it off and I won't know unless I vote for him. I want to see if someone will do what they say they will do. I think the republicans will force Trump to run with some jerk and Hillary is already a jerk and I just can't vote for either one of them. I want to see pot be legalized in my life time I know Trump and Hillary will not do that.

 

[69360]

The ad is meh.

I'm tired of reading TPP in every thread about Johnson. Your pet issue is getting old quick.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The ad is meh.

I'm tired of reading TPP in every thread about Johnson. Your pet issue is getting old quick.

TPP is being protested all over the globe. And for good reason. It's a big deal. The problem with America is that most folks can't be bothered. Seems like most are caught up in the side show.