The New Black Panther Party and the Zimmerman Bounty

[dillo]

As I see it, The New Black Panther Party is tired of seeing young black men and boys being gunned down for no reason. The whole incident started with Zimmerman following Martin around, in the dark. According to the phone call conversation between Martin and his girlfriend, Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following, did not get an answer, and felt threatened. I say kudos to the New Black Panther Party for demanding justice.

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[oyarde]

As I see it, The New Black Panther Party is tired of seeing young black men and boys being gunned down for no reason. The whole incident started with Zimmerman following Martin around, in the dark. According to the phone call conversation between Martin and his girlfriend, Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following, did not get an answer, and felt threatened. I say kudos to the New Black Panther Party for demanding justice.

I think you should read the New Black Panther Party ' manifesto "

 

[oyarde]

If , I recall the wierdo Marxist thing is called "ten point program "

 

[rag-time4]

Demanding justice, yes. Putting a bounty on the head of the accused? No...that doesn't work for me.

Maybe you're being a little too reasonable. The New Black Panther Party seems like they dont have a high degree of faith in local law enforcement to handle the case in a just fashion.

Im seeing many posts along the lines of "local racism will be used as a cover for federal takeover" and I agree that its a very real concern. We as supporters of Ron Paul, liberty, and States' rights have a big task of convincing people that local community control and States rights are really in the best interest of black people and people of color.

Sorry for mixing issues somewhat, but I have to admit when I first heard the story my reaction was closer to the New Black Panther Party. The issue is that the New Black Panther Party has no faith in any sector of government, local, state, or federal, to handle the case properly.

Agree or disagree with their call for a bounty (private citizens used to be able to post bounties couldnt they?) the New Black Panther Party has the God given rights of free speech and bearing of arms. They have the right to voice their feelings and pressure the ystem as much as anyone else.

 

[oyarde]

If any of you have not given , bread , housing and jobs ,to them , as is the requirement of them from you , might be a bounty on you .... I would rather feed birds than marxists , but , hey , that is just me....

 

[anaconda]

I'm tired of the racism towards white people.

Yes, I've said it.

Not all white people are racist hicks, and I'm tired of black people (especially Latinos who think they're black?) using the racism card as a false justification just to start a fight.

Putting out a bounty for the perpetrator is not specifically racist.

 

[oyarde]

I have no faith in govt and even less in the form of govt prescribed by the New Black Panther Party .

 

[oyarde]

10.) ( New Black Panther Party ) We want Land , Bread , Housing ..... , no mention of doing anything for it , I mention #10 , because many of you wil not make it past #2 before you quit reading....

 

[rag-time4]

If , I recall the wierdo Marxist thing is called "ten point program "

The original Black Panthers were an openly Communist group. The New Black Panthers incorporate more elements of black nationalism and separatism. It seems to me that they feel black people have historically gotten a bad deal. I think that black people as a whole have never had true liberty in this country. Many went directly from slavery to the second class citizenship outlined in the fourteenth amendment.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If , I recall the wierdo Marxist thing is called "ten point program "

Yeah, it's called the "Ten Ten Planks of Communism" manifesto.

I have no idea why anybody would be agitating for that, as all ten planks have essentially been adopted already.

Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
(Property taxes)

A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
(Done)

Abolition of all right of inheritance.
(Partially done)

Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
(Partially done)

Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
(Done)

Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
(Done)

Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
(They ditched this idea and just outsourced it)

Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
(Working on that, AmeriCorp and such)

Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
(Marx dropped the ball here, people are much easier to control in centralized massive cities.)

Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production
(Done)

 

[oyarde]

The original Black Panthers were an openly Communist group. The New Black Panthers incorporate more elements of black nationalism and separatism. It seems to me that they feel black people have historically gotten a bad deal. I think that black people as a whole have never had true liberty in this country. Many went directly from slavery to the second class citizenship outlined in the fourteenth amendment.

Well they are still asking for two mules with the forty acres . Probably time for them to think about that, not many people in the US want to pay property tax on forty acres anymore , and just for fun , I would like to see what a couple of those guys from Philly would do with two mules .

 

[cajuncocoa]

Maybe you're being a little too reasonable.

I try.

 

[rag-time4]

Yeah, it's called the "Ten Ten Planks of Communism" manifesto.

I have no idea why anybody would be agitating for that, as all ten planks have essentially been adopted already.

Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
(Property taxes)

A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
(Done)

Abolition of all right of inheritance.
(Partially done)

Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
(Partially done)

Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
(Done)

Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
(Done)

Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
(They ditched this idea and just outsourced it)

Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
(Working on that, AmeriCorp and such)

Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
(Marx dropped the ball here, people are much easier to control in centralized massive cities.)

Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production
(Done)

Well as with all Communist systems we've seen, there are always elites that get to pick winners and losers. Totally agree with your post, but I'll go one further: Thomas Jefferson argued for allodial land ownership, but the eminent domain folks won out... meaning that point 1 was partially in place from the beginning.

 

[oyarde]

NBPP , point # 2 , if you deny employment ,"means of production should be taken from "

 

[oyarde]

The original Black Panthers were an openly Communist group. The New Black Panthers incorporate more elements of black nationalism and separatism. It seems to me that they feel black people have historically gotten a bad deal. I think that black people as a whole have never had true liberty in this country. Many went directly from slavery to the second class citizenship outlined in the fourteenth amendment.

Still openy communist , just lazier about it ...

 

[oyarde]

Or , hell , maybe the one I have on the basement wall is the old one from 1966...

 

[Lishy]

Putting out a bounty for the perpetrator is not specifically racist.

Would they have cared as much if it was a Chinese man who shot him instead?

 

[anaconda]

Would they have cared as much if it was a Chinese man who shot him instead?

Since it is impossible to know or confirm unless such an event occurs, there is no inconsistency over which to infer racism.

 

[moo]

unless you're a racist, you have no reason to fear the black panther party.

 

[Anti Federalist]

unless you're a racist, you have no reason to fear the black panther party.

Ultra, Mecha, Massive, Fail.

I don't think I have ever seen so much failure in one sentence.

Unless you're doing something wrong, you have no reason to fear the police state.