The National Rifle Association

[noztnac]

Contact the NRA. Tell them you want them to support Ron Paul.
https://www.nrahq.org/contact.asp

 

[Kingfisher]

Contact the NRA. Tell them you want them to support Ron Paul.
https://www.nrahq.org/contact.asp

I did this a while back. was told they would take him into consideration. Later I told them I was waiting their neocon endorsement so I could cancel my membership. I am positive they will not endorse Dr. Paul

 

[fortilite]

It's important that any loyal supporter of the 2nd amendment drop the NRA. They HATE Ron Paul because he publicly called them out on some stuff and because he said good things about the GOA. What you gotta understand is that the NRA and GOA hate each other. There will never be an NRA endorsement of Ron Paul, I doubt they will ever say anything positive about him during the elections.

 

[angrydragon]

If they endorse the gun-controlling Rudy, then something is definitely wrong with that group.

 

[fortilite]

The NRA is to the 2nd amendment what NORML is marijuana legalization. An organization which puts on the face of an advocacy group, but in the end they put more effort into maintaining their dominance over other advocacy groups than into actual advocacy. They would rather sacrifice ideals than position, so when a proponent of the war on guns or the war on drugs offers an olive branch they take it no questions asked. Then they can brag about the compromise they made, except instead of calling it compromise they call it 'progress'.

'We're making progress on turning our opponents around, now they only want our scary looking rifles instead of all rifles. See what we can do? Give us donations and we can make more progress!'

We'll yes it's a database, but we got them to promise they won't use it to suppress gun rights. Give us money and we can make more progress like this.

I wonder what other progress the NRA has in mind?

 

[sluggo]

Here is a GOA bulletin that was sent out awhile back. It seems to sum up the actions of the NRA, and is well worth passing along to any gun owners you might know.

An Open Letter To The Pro-gun Community
Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585

Thursday, October 4, 2007

It may be a cliche, but it is true: This letter is written not in anger, but in sorrow and concern. It is written to our friends about NRA staff who, tragically, have taken a course which, we believe, would be disastrous for the Second Amendment and the pro-gun movement.

Two of us are Life Members of the NRA -- one of whom was an NRA board member for over ten years. And our legislative counsel was a paid consultant for the NRA.

So we certainly have no animus against the NRA staff, much less our wonderful friends who are NRA members.

In fact, over the last thirty years, GOA and its staff have worked with NRA to facilitate most of our pro-gun victories -- from McClure-Volkmer to the death of post-Columbine gun control to a gun liability bill free of anti-gun "killer amendments."

But those who staff the NRA, without consulting the membership, have now made a series of strange and dangerous alliances with the likes of Chuck Schumer, Carolyn McCarthy, and Pat Leahy. And we believe that, if allowed to continue, this will produce anti-gun policies which the NRA staff will bitterly regret.

Christ said, in the Sermon on the Mount, that "by their fruits, ye shall know them." And, frankly, these fruits are not likely to produce much pro-gun legislation.

Substantively, the Leahy/McCarthy/Schumer bill, which NRA's staff has vigorously supported without consulting with its membership, would rubber-stamp the illegal and non-statutory BATFE regulations which have already been used to strip gun rights from 110,000 veterans. It would also allow an anti-gun administration to turn over Americans' most private medical records to the federal instant check system without a court order.

But perhaps even worse, the bill was hatched in secret, without hearings or testimony, and passed out of the House without even a roll call. And now, the sponsors are trying to do the same thing in the Senate -- in an effort to ram the bill through without votes or floor debate, led by anti-gun Senator Chuck Schumer. If it is good legislation, as its proponents claim, why such fears of a roll call vote or debate in committee?

Indeed, in the face of horrific dissent from the NRA's own membership, its staff has tragically ignored arguments and dug in its heels -- in an almost "because-we-say-so" attitude.

Understand this:

* Passage of McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer will not quell the calls for gun control. To the contrary, it will embolden our enemies to push for the abolition of even more of our Second Amendment rights. Already, the Brady Campaign has indicated its intent to follow up this "victory" with a push for an effective ban on gun shows.

* Passage of McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer will not be viewed as an "NRA victory." To the contrary, once the liberal media has used the NRA staff for its purposes, it will throw them away like a used Kleenex. Already, an over-confident press is crowing that this is the "first major gun control measure in over a decade."

* Taking the BATFE's horrifically expansive unlawful regulations dealing with veterans' loss of gun rights and making them unchangeable congressionally-endorsed statutory law is NOT "maintaining the status quo."

* We are told that the McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer bill should be passed because it contains special provisions to allow persons prohibited from owning guns to get their rights restored. But there is already such a provision in the law; it is 18 U.S.C. 925(c). And the reason why no one has been able to get their rights restored under CURRENT LAW is that funds for the system have been blocked by Chuck Schumer. It is no favor to gun owners for Chuck Schumer -- the man who has blocked funding for McClure-Volkmer's "relief from disability" provisions for 15 years -- to now offer to give us back a tepid version of the provisions of current law which he has tried so hard to destroy.

Finally, there is the cost, which ranges from $1 billion in the cheapest draft to $5 billion -- to one bill which places no limits whatsoever on spending. Thus, we would be drastically increasing funding for gun control -- at a time when BATFE, which has done so much damage to the Second Amendment, should be punished, rather than rewarded.

We would now respectfully ask the NRA staff to step back from a battle with its membership -- and to join with us in opposing McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer gun control, rather than supporting it.

And, to our friends and NRA members, we would ask that you take this letter and pass it onto your friends and colleagues.

Sincerely,


Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson (ret.)
Founder and Chairman

Larry Pratt
Executive Director

Michael E. Hammond
Legislative Counsel

 

[pickdog]

Do you think ROn Paul would enforce a "waiting period" for gun buyers?
I sure hope so. Otherwise, it will be a free for all. THAT would be scary.

why? a gun is nothing but a tool. please stop projecting.

 

[Gunpartsguy]

Do you think ROn Paul would enforce a "waiting period" for gun buyers?
I sure hope so. Otherwise, it will be a free for all. THAT would be scary.

The 5 day rule is a state rule in each state. Not a fed law. And applies only to handguns in most states. Not rifles or shotguns.

You'll also be amazed that full auto is legal in most states if you pay the tax. Yet we don't see full auto fire sweeping our streets. Ever.

Same thing the anti 2nd types said about the sunsetting of the AW ban. They were crying that there would be blood in the streets. Not one drive by bayonetting since the sunset.

I get all my weapons legally without a waiting period. I have yet to shoot or kill anybody. The waiting period has killed those that needed the protection and couldn't get it in enough time though.

The states should control how weapons are transferred. If at all. Not the fedgov. We didn't start to have bad problems with crime in this country until the fedgov started to take away our 2nd amendment rights. Criminals want unarmed victims. Not a firefight. Disarm the good folks and the bad ones will rule.

If that's scary to you. Maybe you should be supporting Hillary then?

 

[qednick]

Do you think ROn Paul would enforce a "waiting period" for gun buyers?
I sure hope so. Otherwise, it will be a free for all. THAT would be scary.

Do you think Ron Paul would enforce a "waiting period" for buying kitchen knives?
I sure hope so. Otherwise, it will be a free for all. THAT would be scary.

 

[conner_condor]

I say we should start funding GOA and have them put ads out about them being the true supporters of the people and the 2nd ammendment. Of course this funding should be after RP. RP first then GOA. Make GOA no.1 If your not a member of GOA, become one even if you don't own a gun.

 

[Gunpartsguy]

I'm a life member of the GOA, the JPFO, and the SAF/CCRKBA. I'm a member of the NRA. But won't do life until they stop compromising our rights away. In fact I'm thinking about stopping my NRA membership the next time they bill me for membership. And I'll let them know what I think for sure! The NRA has stabbed us in the back too many times to ignore it any longer. The NRA has too many fudds that care only about their precious hunting rifles/shotguns and are willing to throw all else into the fire to protect their "Hunting rights". They seem to think that we that own EBR's (Evil Black Rifles) are the cause of their misery. The cause of their misery is their own ignorance. Compromising their own rights. And trusting others (Politicians) to determine how they should live. What they don't realize is that the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with "hunting" or "sporting purposes". It has everything to do with tyrants, criminals and invaders!

SCREW THE NRA!!!!!!

 

[Christian for Israel]

the NRA is little better than HCI in my opinion...GOA and JPFO are the only organizations i support.

 

[Gunpartsguy]

I just got my NRA membership renewal in the mail today. What great timing! Instead of money they got this letter:

The NRA has betrayed us for the last time! The NICS improvement bill is a sham! I read it for myself and the arguments from the NRA about this bill fall flat on the face of the facts. I am a life member of the GOA, JPFO, SAF/CCRKBA. But will never again give one red cent to the NRA!

WE HAVE BEEN BETRAYED BY THE NRA!

CANCEL MY MEMBERSHIP!!!!!!!

The following statement by the JPFO says what I think quite clearly. I checked this myself on the bill.

JPFO's take on the passage of the NICS Improvement Act....

ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

December 21st, 2007

JPFO ALERT: SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY


The National Rifle Association has done it.

Again.

Having advertised itself for more than a century as the nation's
foremost defender of the Second Amendment, the NRA has once again
given aid and comfort to politicians -- all of the "usual suspects":
Carolyn McCarthy, Charles Schumer, Patrick Leahy, Harry Reid, and that
perennial Judas goat John Dingell -- as well as to pressure groups
like the Brady Campaign, who are determined to destroy that right, by
assisting passage of a law with the potential to strip hundreds of
thousands of military veterans of their basic right to own and carry
weapons.

This latest slap in the gun owner's face by the overstuffed suits
at the NRA -- the same gang who eagerly signed off on the Gun Control
Act of 1968, despite its origins in Hitler's Germany -- establishes
the "principle" that individuals with the slightest of mental health
"problem" (anyone, for instance, who ever sought professional help for
mild depression or difficulty sleeping) have no inalienable right to
self-defense.

(For more information on the Nazi roots of the 1968 Gun Control
Act, be sure to see _Gun Control: Gateway to Tyranny_, available at:
http://shop.jpfo.org/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=24 )

For politicians, it's a payoff: precisely the response they wished
for, to the latest series of what more and more observers now believe
(however reluctantly) are purposely contrived incidents in which armed
criminals feel free to attack crowds of people they know are unarmed
and helpless because the law -- and some corporate policies -- demand
it.

For the psychiatric profession, it enshrines their practitioners
as powerful arbiters of who may or may not exercise their individual
rights.

For America's gun owners, it's just another aspect of the long,
continuous, cruel hoax perpetrated by the NRA, which collects millions
of dollars in membership money under the false pretense of defending
rights that they have proven willing to bargain away on the slightest
excuse.

In doing so, they have empowered the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms, and Explosives to commit larger and more frequent atrocities
of the kind we've become so familiar with over the years. Given past
behavior, it would not be above them to pay informants, including
those psychiatrists, who will attest to anybody's mental instability,
trusting to the increasingly crooked court system to back the Bureau
up.

(To learn more about BATFE history, strategy, and tactics, see the
JPFO documentary _The Gang_. Go to: http://www.TheGangMovie.com )

Don't let the NRA suits put a fancy spin on it, it's really very
straightforward: first, there was no extra gun law; then there was one
-- thanks to the NRA. The last thing this country needs is another gun
law. It already has 25,000. It needs to start repealing them. All of
them.

There's no way to avoid a simple but appalling truth: the NRA's
crawling into bed with the Brady Campaign is _exactly_ like the
Anti-Defamation League endorsing the American Nazi Party, unthinkable,
unspeakable, and disgusting. And, given the vital role that privately
owned arms have played historically and currently in reducing violent
crime and deterring foreign aggression, it is probably treason, as
well.

Weak, submissive behavior of this kind is not the way for Second
Amendment defenders to enter an era of liberal Democratic political
dominance.

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership calls upon NRA
President John C. Sigler, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre,
Executive Director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action Chris
W. Cox (and any of the 75-member board of directors who approves their
reprehensible actions) to resign their positions, forfeiting all
pensions or "golden parachutes". Not for the first time, by helping to
pass yet another infringement of our rights, these people have brought
shame upon themselves, their organization, on gun owners everywhere,
and especially their country and the Constitution that is its highest
law.


- The Liberty Crew

 

[travismofo]

You'll also be amazed that full auto is legal in most states if you pay the tax. Yet we don't see full auto fire sweeping our streets. Ever.

Full auto is actually illegal under federal law without a special permit.

 

[qednick]

Full auto is actually illegal under federal law without a special permit.

Which is what Gunpartsguy meant by "pay the tax".

 

[Gunpartsguy]

Yep, Thanks qednick!

You purchase the stamp. Pass a background check. Then Voila! You own a legal Full auto. The stamp is $200.00. Only flies in the ointment are that some states have banned full auto. And in 86 Reagan did an "executive order" that banned any more production of Full Auto's for civilian use. Funny how the constitution does not provide for executive orders getting codified into law. But they do it anyway! I guess because it's for the children! Bah!

I'm sure the Fudds in the NRA were celebrating................

 

[youngbuck]

The NRA has been infiltrated, and they're now doing secret deals with the most anti-gun legistlators out there. They had a list of Republican candidates on their website a while back (maybe they still do?) and they didn't even list Ron Paul (Fox News style of censorship) as a candidate. I was a member for a couple years a few years back, but dropped it. I've since become a GOA life member. We should all email, write, and call the NRA and demand answers as to why they are censoring Ron Pauls campaign.

Oh yea, I remember when I totally denounced the NRA was when they gave Ron Paul a "B" rating, while giving other politicians who were not nearly the 2nd amendment supporters Ron Paul was an "A" rating. It was because he didn't support a piece of legislation that the NRA had compromised on, and that the GOA openly denounced and exposed. What garbage....

I emailed the GOA and asked them who they were going to support for President, and told them they should publicly support Ron Paul. They replied and told me that they wouldn't officially release public support until further on down the road when the number of candidates has slimmed down. They also said that Ron was a fine choice, and they wished him the best of luck.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

NRA opposes Ron Paul, I can only imagine they have become neocon shills. Their latest issue of "America's 1st Freedom" (January 2008) has no fewer than three articles pointing to current candidates and not one of them mentions Ron Paul.

I am a "charter lifetime member" of the "Golden Eagles Club" and am currently writing to the NRA to renounce my membership in an organization which, to my perception, would advocate confiscation if the neocon agenda were to require it.

 

[Wendi]

When do you think they will officially announce support for Ron Paul? I mean come on, he's the champion of the Constitution, and they are all about the Second Amendment. One would think Ron Paul and the NRA go together like two peas in a pod, and with over 4 million members, that will have a great deal of influence over his campaign. What do you guys think?

I'm not holding my breath. I am a direct descendant of one of the original founding members of the NRA. Everyone in my family is a member, obviously. My membership card was returned to them last spring, with a letter renouncing my membership in their organization and explaining exactly why. Their libelous attacks on Dr. Paul - the best chance we will ever have for true liberty in this nation - are unacceptable and sickening. Even if they change their tune and support him in the end, I will consider it too little, too late. I will never contribute a single cent to that organization again.

You purchase the stamp. Pass a background check. Then Voila! You own a legal Full auto. The stamp is $200.00.

And if you lack that $200 stamp (TAX), the BATF can murder your family and burn down your house... (like they did in Waco)

 

[Gunpartsguy]

And if you lack that $200 stamp (TAX), the BATF can murder your family and burn down your house... (like they did in Waco)

Sure looks. sounds and feels like fascism to me! That b*tch Reno should be tried for murder over that one. Not to mention the JBT's that pulled that one off......

Murdering thugs!