The mindset of the guy who ran the Ron Paul campaign into the ground

[Matt Collins]

The goal was to win in the beginning.

Not possible because the media puffed Santorum at the last minute in Iowa, and Ron was unwilling to shift his rhetoric like Rand does in order to have mass appeal and grow his base outside of the liberty movement.

 

[timosman]

Not possible because the media puffed Santorum at the last minute in Iowa, and Ron was unwilling to shift his rhetoric like Rand does in order to have mass appeal and grow his base outside of the liberty movement.

That's news to me. I thought it was because we did not have any network on the ground that could be used to verify the official vote count and not allow the establishment to f*ck with us.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

The field will change massively between now and caucus night. And almost all of the candidates running this year have better credentials than in 2012 so of course the field is going to be tougher to penetrate.



...snap out of it, man!!...the stinking republican 'field' in 2016, like 2012 and EVERY STINKING REPUBLICRAT $ELECTION PRIOR, will be DOMINATED by miserable gd fool warmongers, monetary ignoramuses, puppets, go-alongs, etc. assorted creeps galore!!..

...save maybe RON paul....ALONE...

...i sense the stinking republicans are fielding such a large array of $h!t-heads this time is to take advantage of 'equal time' per candidate to overwhelm us with their/?your big stinking message: 'hillary sucks, vote for us'...

...stinking republicrats all...

...i hope trump gets it...that's what the stinking republicans deserve...miserable, stoooooooooooooooopid republicrats deserve hillary vs. trump/bush...a clown-car stinkfest...although any of them will deliver the clown-car stinkfest...

 

[Matt Collins]

That's news to me. I thought it was because we did not have any network on the ground that could be used to verify the official vote count and not allow the establishment to f*ck with us.

The polls matched up... there was no massive amount of voter fraud

 

[timosman]

The polls matched up... there was no massive amount of voter fraud

There was no need for a massive voter fraud. They just needed a too-close-to-call situation.

 

[Acala]

The polls matched up... there was no massive amount of voter fraud

Anyone who walked precincts knows that Ron lost because not enough people supported him, not because of voter fraud. It's comforting to blame fraud by the "elite" rather than admit that the public is so easily manipulated that they can be induced to vote for a John McCain or Mitt Romney over a modern-day Thomas Jefferson.

 

[Matt Collins]

Anyone who walked precincts knows that Ron lost because not enough people supported him, not because of voter fraud.

Exactly... too many people would rather sit behind a keyboard than actually pound the pavement to win an election.

 

[timosman]

Exactly... too many people would rather sit behind a keyboard than actually pound the pavement to win an election.

Apparently pounding the pavement did not work. Do we have a plan B this time ?

 

[Acala]

Apparently pounding the pavement did not work. Do we have a plan B this time ?

It's not that going door to door doesn't work. It's just not enough in itself.

 

[Matt Collins]

Apparently pounding the pavement did not work. Do we have a plan B this time ?

The candidate has to be willing to say what they need to say and do in order to get elected

 

[timosman]

The candidate has to be willing to say what they need to say and do in order to get elected

Circular logic.

 

[timosman]

2p

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

The RNC screwed Ron by changing their rules when it did not suit them, and far less popular persons than Ron have received the nomination at contentious conventions.

That seems to prove the RNC is not about the constitution, neither party is of course. They are about division, and perpetuation of political chaos.

Ron Paul stood for a tangible form of unity.

 

[Cissy]

Candidate Ron Paul was a champion of REASON. That's why I loved him. But reason doesn't win elections. Never has. Hopefully someday it will. For now, emotions win elections: fear, anger, hatred, envy, pride, and so on.

 

[New York For Paul]

Simply the campaign was mismanaged and many grassroots supporters, donors and activists were attacked by the campaign instead of courted by the campaign.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Ron could have won NH in 2012, had the campaign done just a few things different.

 

[TheTexan]

Apparently pounding the pavement did not work. Do we have a plan B this time ?

Just do it harder?

 

[Matt Collins]

Ron could have won NH in 2012, had the campaign done just a few things different.

Incorrect. There is no polling to support that.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Incorrect. There is no polling to support that.

We've been through this a hundred times already, I'm not going to go through it 101 times.

You are wrong.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Ron could have won NH in 2012, had the campaign done just a few things different.

Incorrect. There is no polling to support that.

Beg the question much?

Had the campaign done other than it did, the polling might have been other than it was ...