The Military and Police: Why should it be the government's domain?

[NewUser]

Hi all, from what I can tell it seems that Ron Paul only wants the government to be doing three things: the military for national defense, the police for domestic defense, the courts to resolve legal issues and a small bureaucracy to overseer everything.

However, Ron Paul also says that the government often mismanages things so why would you want the government to be in charge of something as crucial and important as national defense? You could argue that national defense is the most important thing in a society.

Thank you for any help!

 

[CPUd]

 

[Ronin Truth]

Because the government needs overwhelming firepower in order to keep the unruly peons and peasants in line.

 

[JK/SEA]

Because the government needs overwhelming firepower in order to keep the unruly peons and peasants in line.

its intended that way to keep us free.

 

[LibForestPaul]

Because step 1 is reduce the power of the federal government. If you want a federal government, than this would be the ideal.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Because the government needs overwhelming firepower in order to keep the unruly peons and peasants in line.

Say what you will about most, I don't think this is Ron Paul's reason.

I agree with the OP that all of that stuff should be privatized. I'm not totally sure why Ron Paul is wrong on them. Nobody is perfect.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Say what you will about most, I don't think this is Ron Paul's reason.

I agree with the OP that all of that stuff should be privatized. I'm not totally sure why Ron Paul is wrong on them. Nobody is perfect.

I didn't check with Ron before I posted. Am I supposed to?

 

[Christian Liberty]

I didn't check with Ron before I posted. Am I supposed to?

No... I just seriously doubt that "the government needs sufficient power to keep peasants in line" is Ron's reason for not being an ancap

 

[AlexAmore]

I think Ron is ancap, but he said something along the lines of "We as a society are not mature enough for that conversation." He also said he would be an anti-federalist if he transported back in time. So he would've been against the Constitution which obviously created a centralized government.

I ended up being ancap because Ron Paul started me on the path. So he's doing something right.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

The military should be mostly the domain of each individual state.

 

[Ronin Truth]

I think Ron is ancap, but he said something along the lines of "We as a society are not mature enough for that conversation." He also said he would be an anti-federalist if he transported back in time. So he would've been against the Constitution which obviously created a centralized government.

I ended up being ancap because Ron Paul started me on the path. So he's doing something right.

Which seems to me to be really strange interesting since Ron claims John Adams is his favorite founding father. Go figure.

 

[NewUser]

Because step 1 is reduce the power of the federal government. If you want a federal government, than this would be the ideal.

Thanks for the response, but I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying that the federal government should ONLY be in control of the military?

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

Police are a function of the Courts. So you have to address the court issue as well.

 

[erowe1]

Hi all, from what I can tell it seems that Ron Paul only wants the government to be doing three things: the military for national defense, the police for domestic defense, the courts to resolve legal issues and a small bureaucracy to overseer everything.

Where did you get that?

 

[Ronin Truth]

Uh, because if it weren't the government would be in prison, serving life terms, or dead?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Law and order services would be more efficiently provided on a free market, as anarcho-capitalists envision.

The problem is that there cannot be a free market in law and order services.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Law and order services would be more efficiently provided on a free market, as anarcho-capitalists envision.

The problem is that there cannot be a free market in law and order services.

There are private security forces and private prisons, AND private mercenary armed forces. I guess no one told nor explained to them that they can not be.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

There are private security forces and private prisons, AND private mercenary armed forces. I guess no one told nor explained to them that they can not be.

That's beside the point, as all of those security markets exist within states.

The question is whether they could exist without the state; and the answer is no, they could not.

Why? In short, because one or another participant in said market would become a new state.

 

[Ronin Truth]

That's beside the point, as all of those security markets exist within states.

The question is whether they could exist without the state; and the answer is no, they could not.

Why? In short, because one or another participant in said market would become a new state.

Why is any of that relevant, abstraction junkie?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Why is any of that relevant, abstraction junkie?

You're asking me why my explanation of the impossibility of anarchy is relevant to a thread asking why anarchy is impossible?