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That would be a great sign and I shall cease 48 hours. Thank you.


... with apologies to my MYR pumping friend for dumping 0.75 BTC in your face... may the pump continue now!
That would be a great sign and I shall cease 48 hours. Thank you.
Hi mate,
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Bobby
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FREE COPY of **SPANK** w/ Market Orders in your rep folder. Thanks for the support. Please don't share my script. Let me know what you think!
I did receive a full refund of .75, in fact he sent a bit more than that, so that the transaction fee did not fall on me, but on him. I ended up with exactly .75. This is very good. However, it appears that this was a bottom line business decision, and that there has been no change in Presence' mind as to having done me wrong. I will let others determine whether my analysis of the degree with which this sheds light upon his character is sound. If I am right, the fact that he does not see he has done me wrong as a customer is enough to not want to do business with him.
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My intention for continuing to post what I know about Presence in this thread was never to get my money back. That is why I did not agree to Presence' terms for a refund. He wronged me, fraudulently marketed, and failed to deliver, and I should not have to agree to any terms to get a refund. There would be no agreeing to terms on my part from a scrupulous business.
So, it was somewhat of a lie of omission on my part, in my self defense, to recoup losses from a fraudulent person. Sigh. I don't like lies of any kind.
Now I will not delete my posts. I will also not actively pursue Presence' failure in the market further, pending further evidence he is actively harming the market and individuals in it. I do however believe my responsibility as a consumer in the unregulated market of cryptocurrency to make the public aware of my experience. If Presence is able to make people money far more than he burns them, my posts will become irrelevant.
I am aware that this thread turns up #1 in google search results for 'litepresence.' If it can be shown that Presence is legit I will do far more than delete my posts - I will help to promote his services free of charge to help restore good faith in him that I may have caused.
As I have always maintained - it was never about my money. It's about my responsibility to the market to share experience. My experience has thus far shown that Presence is the same guy as always, and all of my complaints still stand. Even the refund appears to be motivated by profit, rather than justice. If presence finds it profitable, he can convince me otherwise, and I will be reasonable. I hope I'm wrong. Others can also convince me, just by being real people with expertise who vouch for him.
Presence, if you are legit, and I am wrong, I WILL kick ass for you to make your money back. My responsibility to the market goes both ways.
Until then, why not just take the middle road and go away?
What do you mean by go away? Like, not respond to you?
Hey pres, is spank compatible with BTC, PPC, NMC as well?
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmir...t-be-not-telling-people-theyre-using-bitcoin/The Secret To Bitcoin's Success Might Be Not Telling People They're Using Bitcoin
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/17/us-bitcoin-rules-idUSBREA4G08P20140517(Reuters) - A task force of U.S. state regulators is working on the first bitcoin rule-book, the head of the group said, hoping to protect users of virtual currency from fraud without smothering the fledgling technology.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/16/us-bitcoin-foundation-resignations-idUSBREA4F02B20140516"The track record of prominent Bitcoin Foundation members has been abysmal," said Patrick Alexander, a resigning Foundation member in a post on its discussion pages. "I no longer want to be associated with these people."
Wall Street Journal-May 16, 2014
Angling to Be the MasterCard of Bitcoin. The 31-year-old CEO of Coinbase on his plan to become the world payment processor
The online marketplace giant is “actively considering” integrating bitcoin into PayPal, its payment processing company, eBay CEO John Donahoe said in a Q&A session with shareholders on Tuesday.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitpay-toshiba-partnership-bitcoin-6000-merchants/Bitcoin merchant payment processor BitPay has announced a new partnership with electronics manufacturer Toshiba that will integrate bitcoin payments into Toshiba’s touch-screen point-of-sale platform, VisualTouch.
BitPay will provide technical assistance for the purpose of integrating bitcoin payments into the existing VisualTouch system. VisualTouch is used by more than 6,000 client-companies in the hospitality, restaurant, grocery and retail sectors worldwide.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news...re-will-replace-bitcoin-foundation/2014/05/17Olivier Janssens, an early adopter of Bitcoin has created a $100,000bounty for software that will replace the need for the Bitcoin Foundation. The bounty of about 250 Bitcoins will be given to the developer that develops the best software for the goals of Janssens. Janssens views the Bitcoin Foundation as the exact thing that Bitcoin was created to avoid. Despite Bitcoin being a transparent network of transactions, the Bitcoin Foundation is not transparent in their actions, nor do they always ask the opinions of the community before implementing new updates or technology. Janssens seeks to have a platform created that will make all developments democratic and controlled by users of the Bitcoin community.CCNThe following is his description of the bounty:
Hi Everyone,
My name is Olivier Janssens, early adopter and Bitcoin millionaire. The Bitcoin foundation has had its role in the last 2 years. Unfortunately, it is internally recreating the same archaic political system that fails to work for society. Bitcoin is the currency of the internet generation. It puts the power back into the hands of the people. You cannot expect its main representative organisation to be exactly the opposite: A non-transparent, political and secretive elite. We have been trying to push the BF for transparency and clear communication for years, without result. Meanwhile they started creating even more political structures inside, such as committees, which can only be accessed by knowing the right people. At the bitcoin 2014 conference, organised by this same organisation, I expected to see full internet participation + live streaming of their events. Especially of the BF member meeting, where they are supposed to get input from their members and disclose what they have been up to. Instead, the board decided that the event is not to be recorded or broadcasted. We have also no idea or say on how our money is spent. Half of their board gets elected by industry members (a group of about 100 companies), and recently lead to another extremely controversial election of Brock Pierce, which has a history of being connected to cases involving fraud and pedophilia. This needs to stop.
We as an internet community, don’t need public figures to decide what’s good for us. We need to stop politicking and start focussing on the projects directly. For example, we need a project to fund the core development of bitcoin, and put our money straight to that. We need a project to have lobbyists in Washington, to fight the anti-bitcoin lobbyists from Mastercard, and to prevent the government from destroying the currency. Basically, we don’t need another intermediary. We can do this ourselves. Therefore, I want to announce today that I am organizing a contest and giving $100k USD in BTC, to the group that can come up with the best platform to make this happen. I am thinking of a system where prominent people can voice their opinion, where people can propose projects, and where the core devs can actively show their roadmap with detailed features + costs, and where we can vote on the features being implemented by sending bitcoins towards the feature of our choice. This will allow the core dev team to expand by being able to add/pay more devs for feature requests which are fully funded. Maybe we can even evolve to a system later where anyone can work on a feature, which, when programmed properly (approved by the core team), will receive the bounty. The same applies to lobbyists, we just send bitcoins towards the one that we consider the most competent for the job. This will allow Bitcoin to grow and expand at a rate it deserves, a rate that a political organisation such as the foundation can never accomplish.
Let’s liberate bitcoin.
Olivier
The Chinese government is limiting access to popular bitcoin websites such as Blockchain.Info, BTC-E and Coinbase. Bobby Lee, CEO of BTCChina told Coindesk that the blocking of the websites seems to be selective, affecting different parts of China at different times, for different durations. He added that the Chinese government may be mounting an effort to destabilize the sites and thus give the appearance that they are unreliable. These actions are not unprecedented, the Chinese authorities have previously taken steps to block users from accessing major foreign websites such as Google.
http://www.forexnews.com/blog/2014/05/18/bitcoin-stuck-440-bobby-lee-confirms-chinas-hostile-stance/Bitcoin prices have been stuck in a tiny range of only 3$ during the last 24 hours. The highest high currently stands at $440.94 and the lowest low at $437.94. BTC/USD has been trading in a range for the last month, the advances were generally halted near the $450 figure while the downmoves stopped around $410-$420. With the range becoming ever smaller, a breakout move either way seems likely. Here is the chart for the last 2 days on BTC-E.
Yesterday we reported on the increasingly hostile stance taken by the Chinese authorities regarding bitcoin. At the Bitcoin2014 Conference in Amsterdam, Bobby Lee CEO of BTCChina, confirmed some of the rumors we’ve been reporting on. Lee told the crowd that while there have been no written orders from the PBOC, all major Chinese banks have stopped dealing with bitcoin exchanges. This had a very chilling effect, people are spooked, Bobby Lee said.
The state controlled media has also switched sides on bitcoin and now reports only negative stories. The laws in China are purposely ambiguous, enabling the government to change the rules whenever it pleases Lee said. The CEO of BTCChina may have had enough, he later told Coindesk that he is thinking about moving his business overseas.
Bitcoin’s Rally Cry on China’s War on Bitcoin. We are coming.![]()
by RICH SAUNDERS on MAY 15, 20140
To our Chinese Friends, Countryman, and Government – lend me your ears. The Chinese government has now ordered their press to censor news of bitcoin and our Global Bitcoin Summit. It’s already too late. We are bitcoin and we’re already there.
People are using our currency quietly…carefully today. Does your government think their citizens don’t know what the press is forbidden to report? Do they not hear your whispers behind closed doors? Your kingdom may be crumbling from corruption from the inside, yet the lies among their ranks has become circular and corruption is the fruit of their betrayal. They ignore the lessons of history and are confused by the reasons of why no one speaks.
How childish to think their currency will be trusted to become the reserved currency of the world they so desperately desire. They are fools to believe they deserve that valuable respect. Do they believe they’ve fooled the world of the value of the Chinese yuan when their own people desperately try to escape it? The laws they’ve implemented to keep your money from leaving the country has done nothing but allowed even more corruption. They know of this, yet can’t contain it. Much of your population still live in poverty with little faith in the future while the privileged leaders maintain expensive mistresses with expensive taste and eventually blackmail your leaders to save face using your money.
When your desperate fellow countrymen began committing suicide by leaping to a preferred death from their factory compound windows, you saw the despair they could no longer bear living in slave conditions they were forced to endure. How did your government respond? Was it with kindness and understanding while removing the yoke of slavery? No. They installed nets underneath their compound windows to catch them from their escape from earthly bondage. They then silently and ruthlessly returned them to the factory floors as if they were simply broken pieces of machinery that fell out of place. This was China’s way of handling the situation…and we saw what they did when theythought nobody was watching.
What kind of leadership is that? China has allowed itself to become a rotten example of poison to the world killing your own people by the millions and still your oppressive leaders believe themselves to be honorable? They pompously lecture the world about currency while hypocritically demanding respect? The hour is at hand and somebody must say it loudly. Your Chairman has no clothes! Do they think hiding their people from bitcoin is going to help? Our message to the great people of China: There is hope.
We ask the great people of China, why do your leaders consider bitcoin a threat? It can’t be the size of bitcoin that frightens them. The entire market cap of bitcoin could be swallowed in just a few hours of corruption at the standard rate of corruption in China. Bitcoin is a drop in bucket compared to the political cesspool from which you are forced to contend. Is it possible that the idea of the currency representing freedom they find intolerable? Are they afraid that bitcoin will become the currency of choice for you? Is it possible that they might be trying to hide that possibility from you? Could they be holding secret meetings, counting the days before you stand up united and hold them accountable? With your numbers they should be counting their days! We fully expect this article will be censored from the good people of China,and not without cause! But your great people will know. Word will spread. We hear your pleads for help. We are coming.
The Chinese government continuously disregard human rights. Many of you know they continue to ban your rights to speak freely. You understand thousands of websites are being censored from you. The ideas sprouting from imaginations allowed to think freely are allowed to be viewed from responsible countries which afford their citizens the human dignity to learn. Yet China insist on policing your thoughts. We are not surprised that they would come to fear freedom in all forms, including bitcoin, ESPECIALLY BITCOIN! Because it is the money of freedom. Does the idea of currency freedom terrify them? Their “Great Firewall of China”, even with armies of censors, won’t be able to stop bitcoin. Digital currency has many heads – Bitcoin, litecoin, and hundreds or thousands more lined up behind if needed. We are relentless, we won’t be going away, you will not be abandoned. Each time they try to stamp us out, we will mutate, and get stronger to resist. Each time they stomp, we learn new ways to adapt. Your days of forced isolation from the world are dwindling to a close.
They will try to hide digital currencies from you, but you will find us. We will send you our freedom which will come encrypted. We will come to your rescue contained on secret partitions on USB drives, burned onto CDROMs and any media you can think of. Our currency will be beamed to you from satellites, and embedded inside computer chips. Your leaders will fruitlessly scour everywhere for electronic microdots holding your bitcoin keys. They will expend countless wasted hours mindlessly trying to decode every email, and verify every attachment for any trace of our gift of freedom we bring. Will they be desperate enough to use MRI technology in an attempt to read your minds if they suspect you of memorizing a brain wallet password? The more they do this, the bigger our legend grows. We are watching and have ears in places that listen to your whispers. We are with you. The currency of freedom is coming.
The USA is now becoming open to the vast possibilities of our currency. They recognize your hostility and threat to bitcoin. They will surprise you with secret tools at their disposal to do everything in its power to help bitcoin. Get ready for payback for years of your currency manipulation from the Chinese government that destroy American Jobs. Perhaps they will create and install a “Bitcoin Plunge Protection Team” similar to the one created by Ronald Reagan in secret after the 1987’s stock market crash (Black Monday). That team was charged with re-inflating the stock market in the name of “national security“. If China tries to crash bitcoin by purchasing huge quantities to dump, they may be surprised who buys it up to support the price. We will see the good people of China share their rightful place in a “real” free market of the world. Ask yourself, if the Plunge Protection Team is currently working today to prop up the stock market so 401k’s hold together, would protecting the price of bitcoin be trivial? Payback’s a b!+(#.
We are growing. We are underground. We are anonymous. They won’t stop us and will only appear foolish to try. Their actions have just inspired our rally cry to defeat their efforts to contain us. Discover the meaning of honey badger to understand our nature. We are known as the most fearless creature on earth. We are bitcoin. This reference will likely soon added to your list of forbidden and unsearchable words. The currency of freedom will win over tyranny. Know that we judge China not by seeing how they treat people when they know the world is watching; we do so by watching the manner in which they treat people when they thought nobody was watching. This… defines their character.
Though our size is small, we are relentless. The ideals we carry with us will change the world. Chinese leaders are afraid of the freedom realized by their people when they are allowed to think for themselves. They are afraid of the freedoms that come with choice because in their deep black hearts they know…you will not choose them. The Chinese actions continue to validate who we are and what we represent…
We are bitcoin. We are freedom – and we are coming.