The Litepresence Report on Cryptocurrency

yeah so... nayjevin... I made it a few words into your response.

/ignore

send me an email we'll work something out.


Sorry nayjevin is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.


absolutely lulzy


seems I'll have to script kiddie my way around that via browser on another day.

Until then mouse scroll will work just fine.

Such a hater. I have no time for your pity trip. Sorry.

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Just staying on point with your dislike for free markets.

Feel free to read my public opinions on free markets. You may enjoy my defense of free market solutions to private roads, prisons, and patents.

If I didn't like free markets, this would all be summed up in a legal brief. But I'm not worried about my money, which is why I used it as leverage to induce a more enlightening response. For the children.
 
WHO IS LITEPRESENCE?

yeah so... nayjevin... I made it a few words into your response.

/ignore

what!!!???!!!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...yptocurrency&p=5524491&viewfull=1#post5524491

This was Nayjevin's post:

Last I recall I offered half his money back and he refused wanting all of it back. Sorry but nobody is getting full refund after getting open source code from me.

Then you haven't been reading my posts. I made my case for why half refund was insufficient. You didn't respond. Furthermore, LOL, your code is not open source. It is on cryptotrader, which keeps it closed source.

For whatever reason I don't understand, you voluntarily sent me some script in PM for a bull market that still hasn't occurred. I am unable to compare that code to the closed source bot I assume you are still selling at cryptotrader.

If it were open source, why would you sell it? You simply don't know how to program an encrypted, closed, self contained executable that you can sell independently of cryptotrader. If you could, you would. The extent to which your code is open is the extent you wish it wasn't. You, nor your code , resemble open source standards.

My offer still stands for half.

You didn't even send me half of the product I paid for. And I used it twice, lost money both times. BTC still hasn't seen a market where it might be useful. You were misleading. You did not disclose necessary and proper basic information about the way it works.

You did not disclose the fact that it is worthless to small time investors, as it is programmed to assume less than $500, I think it was, would want to go all in now, just to have some coin. Found that out when ltc was $20+ , I think. It's $10 now.

Your pitch took advantage of the gray area of back testing 'wow' factor to all but promise returns you later admitted you knew were not possible.

I'm bored, but that's not all.

But ffs... homie needs to get past himself... send me an email and deal with it privately.

It's all about me? I'm not the self proclaimed expert that needs to allude to phallic superiority in my documentation. And I don't charge people for failed strategies and analysis without explanation, only to later call it a 'community service'.

This continual bullshit about me being a scammer every time I read through this thread has totally turned me off to even sharing market insight anymore around here...

Continual: I gave you weeks to respond, after weeks of giving you the benefit of the doubt, and there still has been no market change in BTC it BTC/ltc to lead one to believe your analysis has merit. Looks to me like you let us help you unload ltc at last peak and are now pushing crapcoin as charitable ' community service'.

Bullshit: calling it doesn't make it so. You have yet to address many criticisms. You are far more likely to respond to potential doubt of potential customers than to any sense of justice toward those you have wronged.

first it was Oz now its najevin.

Sigh, guilt by association fallacy, that guy was a nutball, and all I remember is that he disagreed with you once.

I'm over it;
.

You never weren't. Quite obviously to me you don't give a shit about anyone who loses money because of you.

I received donations to go to NH for operation live free or die in 2007, and I failed. I had poor judgment and was not as effective as I should have been. Everyone I've been able to get in touch with has said don't worry about it, or said they felt they got their money's worth anyway. I'm not over it. I dreamed of paying everyone back in their choice of gold, silver, BTC, ltc, or nmc plus interest. Here I saw opportunity to restore any confidence in independent grassroots projects I may have contributed to damaging, get some strapped folks who sacrificed for my opportunity some purchasing power, and relieve my own guilt. Dare I fantasize of profit? I was a sucker, and also got screwed.

I did this as a community service not for financial gain... I frankly don't need the shit. I do just fine trading on my own.

You failed. It's all right here in this thread, and you won't admit it, and you're blaming me. And trying to get me to shut up by only sacrificing half of the pure profit made by misleading me. Some community member.

FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS OPEN SOURCE COMMENTARY ANYWHERE YOU SEE LITEPRESENCE.

FOR MORE ABOUT FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS TO SCAMMERS, GO TO RONPAULFORUMS.COM

litepresence said:
You're not getting a refund from me. You're not getting shit from me. Done. I cut all ties.​

Customer service at it's finest. Buyer beware!
 
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Still haven't seen a support request email in my inbox from you since the day I sent you script many moons back.

The only thing you've managed is long winded lone hissy fits in my market analysis thread.

I'm done with you nayjevin. You've pushed me over the edge.

You're not getting a refund from me. You're not getting shit from me. Done. I cut all ties.


Feel free to spread the message.

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I wonder if I can ignore mods with this... might be useful.


lol perfect ;)


Goodbye nayjevin. I've never ignored another user at rpf before. Shame I had to start out with a mod. My email address also now directs contact from you to the trash bin.






Cheers!

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I feel for the guy. Real nice guy... he had no intentions of going 84 coins deep but slept in "buy support" walls... well news came out that NONE of us were expecting... the coin was fucked... shit tanked and next thing you know homie was holding his bank in a falling rock.

I've done everything I can to try to generate PR with the coin... tweeted the shit out of it... ads... assembled a pr team in IRC... assembled a bunch of twitterites... We even raised some money for devs that ultimately took the coin (WC) from the old dev and rebuilt it from the ground up including new wallets for windows and mac.

WC has gone from a scammer's coin to a bonafide "community" built coin...

but lost of people got burnt and until the dust clears... my 9.7mil WC bag holding friend is going to have to hold through or dump and cry. I'm really at a loss for what is best. I consider my 700k WC investment a long hold / loss. Is what it is... investing in small cap coins is high risk. sometimes you lose 50% or more... but sometimes... when the timing is right... things go 10X 20X or 100X.


WC wasn't even "my" pick at first... MoosaNYC and Prometheus from BTCe were the two that got us all into it. I just kind of went along for the ride... then when our trading group was balls deep... that's when I got involved in marketing / pr / whitecoinfoundation board. etc. I still am working behind the scenes to help get the coin back on its feet. I spoke today w/ people from blackcoin about a cross party pr /marketing campaign. We'll see how that pans.

Nonetheless... atm WC is a fucking mess. I've reduced my holdings and traded on the way down to reduce my average buy, but things aren't sweet right now for those that bought in last week or two weeks ago. With all the hype and community I've helped create at #whitecoinfoundation... there is a good chance for WC long... but you're in that predicament of "calling a bottom" rather than "accumulating on sideways" as was originally hoped. When i entered #whitecoinfoundation on IRC there were only 8 people... I promoted the room and there has been a consistant 100 + people daily in that room since... with siderooms #wc-pr #whitecointwitterpump and a few others that are related to dev and board meetings.

LP

WC is having a difficult time shaking off its old image. Over on the btc forums there are still a lot of angry bagholders and those who tirelessly troll WC after they see the community has rallied behind it. I feel we've tapped a lot of the Blackcoin kids' anger and frustration so we must be onto something. I've played damage control but there is only so much I can do above the illiterate yelling sometimes.

At any rate, I'm holding long and you've still got a team who can do good things... before I left for the weekend I overheard a couple new wallet developments in the works... unfortunately we are not one person and have day jobs, etc, so these things take longer and investors want the moon yesterday. So yeah it's frustrating. Calming investors is like herding cats but half of the cats don't speak English and have the patience of a twelve year old, and the other half I'm fairly sure are actually twelve years old.

The more we can push PR to major crypto news outlets and blogs, like Coindesk, the better.
 
I hear that.


Mom wants me to invest $5000 on LTCUSD script for her. I need to shift focus back to code.

I feel pulled in so many directions... I've got too many irons in the fire. Ready to put myself in a dark room and say fuck it to WC foundation... fuck it to my skype trading group... fuck it to my myriadcoin investment... and just go back to bot dev full time. I was doing really well there for a while and lost focus when I went out of town.


Tomorrow will be a focus on script day... there really is no reason I can't iron out the final pieces in a a day or two. Just need to focus!

That's awesome you got your mom interested. I can't get my father to get any. He's like all the other people who are gonna miss the boat again and thinks we're headed to near zero without understanding what is going on. Going to near zero is mathematically impossible. There are more humans worldwide by orders of magnitude than the total current number of BTC mined who are interested in Crypto.

I don't blame you for losing focus. Sounds like Alex is a fuckwit on cryptotrader and Tradewave just keeps spinning in their heels.
 
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Translation: When litepresence is holding the bag he works on PR. Try to encourage investment in HIS coin interests.

Take a look:

http://whitecoin.co/

Whitecoin is a very bland miner's pump coin. POS. No distinguishing qualities listed. Litepresence quotes Buffet's, don't buy something you wouldn't want years from now, then suggests, as a community service, that we invest in this coin that's value is completely based on people's ability to convince others to invest in it.

Pump and dump coin - Pres says hurry and jump on board. BTC no good at $450? NMC no good at $2? LTC no good at $10? Nope, here's your best opportunity - sez prez, Whitecoin.
 
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LOL listen to yourself.

Do you expect things to always go as planned? I take advice from pres, but he doesn't guide my every trading decision.

If you honestly thought a bull market was some kind of guarantee, then it's your fault you invested in it. Nobody guaranteed you anything.
 
Paul...bitfinex...how's it going?

Looks like we had a weekend drop.

It's going quite well so far. It's tempting to use the leverage to sell more, but I'm resisting on principle. Nonetheless, I expect to make a pretty penny if it's going where I think it's going. The fees are dirt cheap, too.
 
Do you expect things to always go as planned?

No. What led you to believe that I do? Perhaps you are not reading my posts either. It would seem to me that a reasonable person could see this quite easily. Perhaps I have a blind spot and have not explained well? Or perhaps you are a cheerleader who invests in primarily forum slide, non sequitur, ad hominem, timeshift ignore tactics.

I take advice from pres, but he doesn't guide my every trading decision.

Your implication being that I looked for pres to guide my every trading decision? I looked for pres' bot, which by definition guides all trading decisions for the resources it has access to, to guide all trading decisions for the amount of value I was willing to let it control. After I puchased the CLOSED SOURCE bot, I found out that it was worthless for any investment smaller than, I believe it was, $500.


If you honestly thought a bull market was some kind of guarantee, then it's your fault you invested in it. Nobody guaranteed you anything.

If you honestly think eating babies is ok, then it's your fault. But wait, you didn't say that eating babies is OK! And I didn't say I thought a bull market was some kind of guarantee.

When a PR marketer makes claims about a coming market, such as his expectations, that's wrapped into the purchase decision. I understood it was not to be assumed the bot would ever make money. But a botsmith who glosses over a completely failed bot and completely failed analysis with no explanation to his customers is at best unworthy of market support.

By the way, if you actually read my posts, it seems to me quite clear that the portion of my complaint regarding his analysis is minor. My complaint is FRAUD

Have you even tried before flinging accusations?

'Flinging' would imply haphazard, trying to get something to stick, with little thought. My accusations are fact based and well thought. Your claim has no merit.

I hate to say it, but if your plan is to expose someone, it's not effective because you don't come across as very legitimate yourself.

I hate to say it, but if your plan is to eat babies, oh wait, you didn't say that either?

What is legitimate to you? Whitecoin, evidently, and Litepresence. Need I say more?

WHO IS LITEPRESENCE?

yeah so... nayjevin... I made it a few words into your response.

/ignore

what!!!???!!!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...yptocurrency&p=5524491&viewfull=1#post5524491

This was Nayjevin's post:

Last I recall I offered half his money back and he refused wanting all of it back. Sorry but nobody is getting full refund after getting open source code from me.

Then you haven't been reading my posts. I made my case for why half refund was insufficient. You didn't respond. Furthermore, LOL, your code is not open source. It is on cryptotrader, which keeps it closed source.

For whatever reason I don't understand, you voluntarily sent me some script in PM for a bull market that still hasn't occurred. I am unable to compare that code to the closed source bot I assume you are still selling at cryptotrader.

If it were open source, why would you sell it? You simply don't know how to program an encrypted, closed, self contained executable that you can sell independently of cryptotrader. If you could, you would. The extent to which your code is open is the extent you wish it wasn't. You, nor your code , resemble open source standards.

My offer still stands for half.

You didn't even send me half of the product I paid for. And I used it twice, lost money both times. BTC still hasn't seen a market where it might be useful. You were misleading. You did not disclose necessary and proper basic information about the way it works.

You did not disclose the fact that it is worthless to small time investors, as it is programmed to assume less than $500, I think it was, would want to go all in now, just to have some coin. Found that out when ltc was $20+ , I think. It's $10 now.

Your pitch took advantage of the gray area of back testing 'wow' factor to all but promise returns you later admitted you knew were not possible.

I'm bored, but that's not all.

But ffs... homie needs to get past himself... send me an email and deal with it privately.

It's all about me? I'm not the self proclaimed expert that needs to allude to phallic superiority in my documentation. And I don't charge people for failed strategies and analysis without explanation, only to later call it a 'community service'.

This continual bullshit about me being a scammer every time I read through this thread has totally turned me off to even sharing market insight anymore around here...

Continual: I gave you weeks to respond, after weeks of giving you the benefit of the doubt, and there still has been no market change in BTC it BTC/ltc to lead one to believe your analysis has merit. Looks to me like you let us help you unload ltc at last peak and are now pushing crapcoin as charitable ' community service'.

Bullshit: calling it doesn't make it so. You have yet to address many criticisms. You are far more likely to respond to potential doubt of potential customers than to any sense of justice toward those you have wronged.

first it was Oz now its najevin.

Sigh, guilt by association fallacy, that guy was a nutball, and all I remember is that he disagreed with you once.

I'm over it;
.

You never weren't. Quite obviously to me you don't give a shit about anyone who loses money because of you.

I received donations to go to NH for operation live free or die in 2007, and I failed. I had poor judgment and was not as effective as I should have been. Everyone I've been able to get in touch with has said don't worry about it, or said they felt they got their money's worth anyway. I'm not over it. I dreamed of paying everyone back in their choice of gold, silver, BTC, ltc, or nmc plus interest. Here I saw opportunity to restore any confidence in independent grassroots projects I may have contributed to damaging, get some strapped folks who sacrificed for my opportunity some purchasing power, and relieve my own guilt. Dare I fantasize of profit? I was a sucker, and also got screwed.

I did this as a community service not for financial gain... I frankly don't need the shit. I do just fine trading on my own.

You failed. It's all right here in this thread, and you won't admit it, and you're blaming me. And trying to get me to shut up by only sacrificing half of the pure profit made by misleading me. Some community member.

FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS OPEN SOURCE COMMENTARY ANYWHERE YOU SEE LITEPRESENCE.

FOR MORE ABOUT FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS TO SCAMMERS, GO TO RONPAULFORUMS.COM

litepresence said:
You're not getting a refund from me. You're not getting shit from me. Done. I cut all ties.

Customer service at it's finest. Buyer beware!
 
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litepresence said:
You're not getting a refund from me. You're not getting shit from me. Done. I cut all ties.

LITEPRESENCE earns about $800 profit from taking this stance
 


"Mr. Roboto"

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto,
Mata ah-oo hima de
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto,
Himitsu wo shiri tai

You're wondering who I am-machine or mannequin
With parts made in Japan, I am the modren man

I've got a secret I've been hiding under my skin
My heart is human, my blood is boiling, my brain I.B.M.
So if you see me acting strangely, don't be surprised
I'm just a man who needed someone, and somewhere to hide
To keep me alive-just keep me alive
Somewhere to hide to keep me alive

I'm not a robot without emotions-I'm not what you see
I've come to help you with your problems, so we can be free
I'm not a hero, I'm not a saviour, forget what you know
I'm just a man whose circumstances went beyond his control
Beyond my control-we all need control
I need control-we all need control

I am the modren man, who hides behind a mask
So no one else can see my true identity

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo...domo
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo...domo
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo...domo
Thank you very much, Mr. Roboto
For doing the jobs that nobody wants to
And thank you very much, Mr. Roboto
For helping me escape just when I needed to
Thank you-thank you, thank you
I want to thank you, please, thank you

The problem's plain to see: too much technology
Machines to save our lives. Machines dehumanize.

The time has come at last
To throw away this mask
So everyone can see
My true identity...
I'm Kilroy! Kilroy! Kilroy! Kilroy!
 
No. What led you to believe that I do? Perhaps you are not reading my posts either. It would seem to me that a reasonable person could see this quite easily. Perhaps I have a blind spot and have not explained well? Or perhaps you are a cheerleader who invests in primarily forum slide, non sequitur, ad hominem, timeshift ignore tactics.



Your implication being that I looked for pres to guide my every trading decision? I looked for pres' bot, which by definition guides all trading decisions for the resources it has access to, to guide all trading decisions for the amount of value I was willing to let it control. After I puchased the CLOSED SOURCE bot, I found out that it was worthless for any investment smaller than, I believe it was, $500.




If you honestly think eating babies is ok, then it's your fault. But wait, you didn't say that eating babies is OK! And I didn't say I thought a bull market was some kind of guarantee.

When a PR marketer makes claims about a coming market, such as his expectations, that's wrapped into the purchase decision. I understood it was not to be assumed the bot would ever make money. But a botsmith who glosses over a completely failed bot and completely failed analysis with no explanation to his customers is at best unworthy of market support.

By the way, if you actually read my posts, it seems to me quite clear that the portion of my complaint regarding his analysis is minor. My complaint is FRAUD



'Flinging' would imply haphazard, trying to get something to stick, with little thought. My accusations are fact based and well thought. Your claim has no merit.



I hate to say it, but if your plan is to eat babies, oh wait, you didn't say that either?

What is legitimate to you? Whitecoin, evidently, and Litepresence. Need I say more?

WHO IS LITEPRESENCE?



what!!!???!!!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...yptocurrency&p=5524491&viewfull=1#post5524491

This was Nayjevin's post:



Then you haven't been reading my posts. I made my case for why half refund was insufficient. You didn't respond. Furthermore, LOL, your code is not open source. It is on cryptotrader, which keeps it closed source.

For whatever reason I don't understand, you voluntarily sent me some script in PM for a bull market that still hasn't occurred. I am unable to compare that code to the closed source bot I assume you are still selling at cryptotrader.

If it were open source, why would you sell it? You simply don't know how to program an encrypted, closed, self contained executable that you can sell independently of cryptotrader. If you could, you would. The extent to which your code is open is the extent you wish it wasn't. You, nor your code , resemble open source standards.



You didn't even send me half of the product I paid for. And I used it twice, lost money both times. BTC still hasn't seen a market where it might be useful. You were misleading. You did not disclose necessary and proper basic information about the way it works.

You did not disclose the fact that it is worthless to small time investors, as it is programmed to assume less than $500, I think it was, would want to go all in now, just to have some coin. Found that out when ltc was $20+ , I think. It's $10 now.

Your pitch took advantage of the gray area of back testing 'wow' factor to all but promise returns you later admitted you knew were not possible.

I'm bored, but that's not all.



It's all about me? I'm not the self proclaimed expert that needs to allude to phallic superiority in my documentation. And I don't charge people for failed strategies and analysis without explanation, only to later call it a 'community service'.



Continual: I gave you weeks to respond, after weeks of giving you the benefit of the doubt, and there still has been no market change in BTC it BTC/ltc to lead one to believe your analysis has merit. Looks to me like you let us help you unload ltc at last peak and are now pushing crapcoin as charitable ' community service'.

Bullshit: calling it doesn't make it so. You have yet to address many criticisms. You are far more likely to respond to potential doubt of potential customers than to any sense of justice toward those you have wronged.



Sigh, guilt by association fallacy, that guy was a nutball, and all I remember is that he disagreed with you once.

.

You never weren't. Quite obviously to me you don't give a shit about anyone who loses money because of you.

I received donations to go to NH for operation live free or die in 2007, and I failed. I had poor judgment and was not as effective as I should have been. Everyone I've been able to get in touch with has said don't worry about it, or said they felt they got their money's worth anyway. I'm not over it. I dreamed of paying everyone back in their choice of gold, silver, BTC, ltc, or nmc plus interest. Here I saw opportunity to restore any confidence in independent grassroots projects I may have contributed to damaging, get some strapped folks who sacrificed for my opportunity some purchasing power, and relieve my own guilt. Dare I fantasize of profit? I was a sucker, and also got screwed.



You failed. It's all right here in this thread, and you won't admit it, and you're blaming me. And trying to get me to shut up by only sacrificing half of the pure profit made by misleading me. Some community member.

FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS OPEN SOURCE COMMENTARY ANYWHERE YOU SEE LITEPRESENCE.

FOR MORE ABOUT FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS TO SCAMMERS, GO TO RONPAULFORUMS.COM


Customer service at it's finest. Buyer beware!

I'm going to try to respond to some of the things you said in reply to me. When I said he doesn't guide my every trading decision, I was simply responding to you implying that I was in a hole because of pres. I was in a hole because of my own decisions.

Also, what makes you think it was a failed bot if the market conditions in which it should be used haven't even arisen yet? You bought the bot based on your belief that his analysis was right. For that, you only have yourself to blame. That's all I have to say about it.
 
I'm going to try to respond to some of the things you said in reply to me. When I said he doesn't guide my every trading decision, I was simply responding to you implying that I was in a hole because of pres. I was in a hole because of my own decisions.

Ah, yes I see that and you're right.

Also, what makes you think it was a failed bot if the market conditions in which it should be used haven't even arisen yet? You bought the bot based on your belief that his analysis was right. For that, you only have yourself to blame. That's all I have to say about it.

Also a good point. I made a bad and faulty statement. My real point is that a read of this whole thread shows that litepresence has a consistent pattern of not explaining failures and bragging about successes. The bot may not have failed, and I may not have used it properly, and some analysis of his has borne out in reality.

However, it is important to note that I do not believe I deserve a refund for the bot because I lost money! I believe I deserve a refund for the bot because it was fraudulently marketed and I never even received half of what I paid for. His failure to admit this makes me think he is unethical, and wholly unfit to occupy the position of authority he has crafted for himself. There are also all the other things I've listed in this thread that he never addressed.

It would have been so simple for presence to come clean at any point and just give me back my money. It is all these surrounding actions that led me to believe what I do, not that I lost money.

If he would have said, this bot doesn't work, and I'm sorry you lost 10 million dollars, or even $1, but I can't be responsible for that, I would agree completely. He is not responsible for my losses. He is responsible for my purchase price. Because FRAUD and FAILURE TO DELIVER.

He wanted to give me half. I didn't even receive half the product! Total joke of a service he's providing. Best case scenario hiring a dedicated marketer and accounts manager and sales department would allow him to make people money without being unethical to them. I believe it may be worse than that, I believe it needs to be investigated whether his bots are designed with no intention to make others money in mind.

But, unfortunately, they are CLOSED SOURCE
 
Ah, yes I see that and you're right.



Also a good point. I made a bad and faulty statement. My real point is that a read of this whole thread shows that litepresence has a consistent pattern of not explaining failures and bragging about successes. The bot may not have failed, and I may not have used it properly, and some analysis of his has borne out in reality.

However, it is important to note that I do not believe I deserve a refund for the bot because I lost money! I believe I deserve a refund for the bot because it was fraudulently marketed and I never even received half of what I paid for. His failure to admit this makes me think he is unethical, and wholly unfit to occupy the position of authority he has crafted for himself. There are also all the other things I've listed in this thread that he never addressed.

It would have been so simple for presence to come clean at any point and just give me back my money. It is all these surrounding actions that led me to believe what I do, not that I lost money.

If he would have said, this bot doesn't work, and I'm sorry you lost 10 million dollars, or even $1, but I can't be responsible for that, I would agree completely. He is not responsible for my losses. He is responsible for my purchase price. Because FRAUD and FAILURE TO DELIVER.

He wanted to give me half. I didn't even receive half the product! Total joke of a service he's providing. Best case scenario hiring a dedicated marketer and accounts manager and sales department would allow him to make people money without being unethical to them. I believe it may be worse than that, I believe it needs to be investigated whether his bots are designed with no intention to make others money in mind.

But, unfortunately, they are CLOSED SOURCE

I guess I avoided this by not getting involved in bots. The analysis is still good, and for that, I freely give away some of the money I earned. As far as bots go, I don't know how effective they really are.
 
Just closed out my short position with a small profit. I'm beginning to doubt whether we're going to break down. That uptrend is pretty strong.
 
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