The Jobs Plan War - Does Paul even have a plan?

[Icymudpuppy]

Discussed on another thread...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?311326-The-Jobs-Plan-War-Does-Paul-even-have-a-plan

 

[kylejack]

Ron Paul believes it constitutionally limited government, any jobs created are side effects of that.

 

[sailingaway]

I'm pretty sure I saw something about this yesterday. He seems to have one. I'll post it when I see it.

 

[InTradePro]

Ron Paul Campaign Releases Statement on Jobs Report

End wars, spending and reintroduce sound money

Lake Jackson, Texas- The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign released the following statement from National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton in response to the U.S. Department of Labor’s August 2011 Employment Situation Summary:

“The August national unemployment rate of 9.1 percent is another unfortunate chapter in the Obama administration’s almost superhuman mishandling of the economy. Total nonfarm employment was unchanged, withzero jobs created. The number of involuntary part-time workers is up, and the number of those marginally attached to the workforce is up.

“Six million workers, 42.9 percent of total unemployed persons, have been jobless 27 weeks or longer – a frightening proposition considering that mortgage, rent, food and back-to-school bills may go unpaid. The most recent four-week moving average of new unemployment claims, favored for being a less volatile indicator of our jobs picture, is a frowning 410,250 – also cause for dismay.

Much more...
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/09/02/ron-paul-campaign-releases-statement-on-jobs-report/

 

[InTradePro]

It's here http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/09/02/ron-paul-campaign-releases-statement-on-jobs-report/

But we have two threads on the same thing. Can a mod merge them.

 

[speciallyblend]

he should also body slam nafta!!!

 

[Ronpauljones]

he should also body slam nafta!!!

 

[Ronpauljones]

bump *read above post* ^^^

 

[Revolution9]

Sell Congress to Wall Street and The Senate to Israel who can use the 3 trillion Dov Zakheim stole from the Pentagoons. Use the cash to buy Mexico and hire all the illegals back there to fix it up and we can flip it for a profit. Then we use the profit to build robocop border patrol bots, putting tech and parts companies back to work and using the US video gamers brainpower pool we have developed to run them from a Command and Control bunker like their mom's basement, with tort lawyers getting business when the things misfire as well as the medical industry trades. Then we get DARPA to make a faster trading algorithm to grab the cash back from Wall Street in nanosecond transactions, putting our nuclear simulation supercomputers to good use and use that to pay down the debt. We use the leftover cash to buy back Congress and the Senate to do the will of The People, rebooting the accounting and cogitator trades and luxury goods purveyors, madames and escort services and whatnot.

Rev9

 

[HeyArchie]

What is this ludicrous idea that the government needs to create jobs and have job plans? The free market is the job plan and the job creator. Enough is enough.

 

[wgadget]

he should also body slam nafta!!!

Yes, and he should also body slam RICK PERRY for being PRO-NAFTA (before he was against it, for sure).

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...DAAAAIBAJ&pg=1877,1167212&dq=rick+perry&hl=en

 

[freeforall]

What is this ludicrous idea that the government needs to create jobs and have job plans? The free market is the job plan and the job creator. Enough is enough.

Agreed. Unfortunately many Americans no longer know what that looks like and need it spelled out for them.

 

[Paul4Prez]

Yes, and unveil it at some abandoned manufacturing plant, like one-percenter Jon Huntsman did, garnering mainstream media attention.

 

[wgadget]

Okay...Sorry for posting on a topic that's already been posted...But now that I think about it, my guess is that RON will hit the issue out of the park at one of the coming debates.

He will say something about how government does NOT create jobs, that government GETS IN THE WAY of prosperity, etc., etc., etc., but of course he'll say it in an interesting and compelling way.

Then people will say he's nuts for a while...at least until they actually THINK ABOUT IT, and then they'll come around to knowing that he's RIGHT.

 

[acptulsa]

Sell Congress to Wall Street and The Senate to Israel who can use the 3 trillion Dov Zakheim stole from the Pentagoons. Use the cash to buy Mexico and hire all the illegals back there to fix it up and we can flip it for a profit. Then we use the profit to build robocop border patrol bots, putting tech and parts companies back to work and using the US video gamers brainpower pool we have developed to run them from a Command and Control bunker like their mom's basement, with tort lawyers getting business when the things misfire as well as the medical industry trades. Then we get DARPA to make a faster trading algorithm to grab the cash back from Wall Street in nanosecond transactions, putting our nuclear simulation supercomputers to good use and use that to pay down the debt. We use the leftover cash to buy back Congress and the Senate to do the will of The People, rebooting the accounting and cogitator trades and luxury goods purveyors, madames and escort services and whatnot.

Rev9

Definitely this.

Or better yet, he could close down the EPA, DEQ, OSHA, and a few more bowls of alphabet soup and see if that makes entrepreneurs a little less afraid to be enterprising in the U.S.

Agreed. Unfortunately many Americans no longer know what that looks like and need it spelled out for them.

Americans have free markets in their bones. The problem is the only free markets they can find are the markets for illegal things. Hell, you can't even have a garage sale these days without worrying that the fedgov will swoop in and bust you for selling a baby toy made before 1985 that might have lead paint on it. Farmers' markets are hanging on by the skin of their teeth, with Monsanto-required laws against selling any veggie that doesn't have the skin intact. They're busting freaking lemonade stands.

Americans don't need to be spoon fed the wonders of a free market. Just give 'em one and stand the hell back. Then we'll have some people working in this country.

 

[outspoken]

He did already. It's titled Liberty Defined, The Revolution, and End the Fed.

 

[josh b]

He did already. It's titled Liberty Defined, The Revolution, and End the Fed.

Precisely. He has had a detailed plan for a while now. The issue is just communicating it with the public. Not everyone is going to go out and read a bunch of books.

 

[cucucachu0000]

yea he should have a plan that if asked he could put out but specifics usually get lost in these things. he needs to keep on the message of freedom produces prosperity.

 

[The Free Hornet]

These comments are intendend for what Obama ought to do. Plz don't take out of context!

1. End the federal-mandated minimum wage. The least you can pay someone is zero and that is what 20% of us are getting.

2. Decouple health care benefits from employement. Either eliminate the distoring tax breaks for healthcare or extend them to individuals. Ron Paul has a good plan to bring back medical savings accounts (MSA), which can be a halfway position of sorts.

3. Suspend implementation of Obamacare for at least 3 years. This is a win-win for Obama since if he loses, the plan is repealed by Congress/President (most likely), and if he wins, he gets his way (can veto effort to repeal).

4. Enshrine employment at will for small companies, at the very least. If you can't fire someone, you will outsource (out of state, out of the country, just so long as you have no liability).

5. Decouple unemployment insurance payments from employers. If the gubblemint thinks we need unemployment insurance, then we should hold as 401k-like plans that reflect how long we have worked. A new worker with 3 months on job would get little. If you worked for 20 years, you would have a large cushion. Why should employers pay for the insurance?

6. I would suspend many other regulations for small and new companies, especially under 10 people.

7. Repeal Dodd Frank/Sarbanes Oxley. This is not really solving any problems. ALTERNATIVELY, open up non-SEC SEC! A free-for-all-inside-trading-cocaine-snorting exchange to raise capital for profits!!!!

8. Lower the corporate tax rate and have amenesty for any money brought back to the US. Tax reform - big time!

9. Stop mandating the use of ethanol in gasoline. It makes me so mad, I just don't work so hard because of it.

 

[LibertyEagle]

As hopeful as I am that he wins, this is why I am skeptical that Dr. Paul has a chance to even win the nomination let alone the election. He needs to dumb his plans down for the typical American idiot.

Instead of giving his standard answer he needs to say something like:

My jobs plan is as follows. We move to a strong dollar policy which lowers prices for all consumers and attracts investment capital into the economy. We stop bailing out the failed institutions and allow them to fail so that when the smoke clears successful institutions will hire and take their place. We cut spending on our overseas empire and cut taxes and regulation to loosen the chokehold on business. It will hurt for a little while, but we will bounce back stronger than ever before and be able to sustain it with the right policies in place.

Very good.