The Importance of the Virginia Governor's Race for Libertarians

[thoughtomator]

Sure,but those are not our choices.Cuccinelli or McAuliffe is going to be the next Governor of Virginia,those are your choices,Period.

If we're being realists here then, the state will continue to be run by Fascists and it ultimately doesn't matter who is governor one iota. There is something seriously wrong with Cuccinelli that I can't quite put my finger on. The closest that I can say for sure is that he seems like less than a whole person, like some element of his soul got cut out and stored in a bottle somewhere. I have wanted to like him since I first heard of him and he's been completely unable to close the sale. There's a lack of follow-through in what he claims to be and stand for, and a bizarre lack of consistency.

Ken Cuccinelli can be either a social theo-servative or he can be a libertarian conservative, but he can't be both. All the libertarian type stuff he's done has been exclusively in those few areas where there is coincidental crossover with the theo-cons.

Perhaps I'm not as frightened as many about the prospect of Governor McAuliffe, perhaps it's because I'm aware he is limited to a single term, or perhaps it is because I have zero belief in the good faith of the RPV, or perhaps it is because the only time I've ever seen a positive shift in the political landscape is when a Democrat like McAuliffe wreaks havoc and it gets the people to the point where they finally have had enough of that foolishness. That McAuliffe is in the lead shows that this state has had nowhere near enough of that foolishness yet.

 

[mad cow]

Cuccinelli's "support" for the Second Amendment is not that strong. He does not support Constitutional carry. Permits are bullshit, they give the government a list of gun owners which is the last thing any gun owner should want. "Shall not be infringed" leaves no room for the government to have a permit system.

On Wednesday, Virginia gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, said he would "push" for more gun control if he is elected governor in a debate with Republican Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli.
McAuliffe invoked the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora, and Newtown tragedies and asked, "How many people have to be killed until we wake up to have sensible gun ownership?"
He said he was "dismayed with United States Senate this year" for not bringing up a bill which was co-sponsored by Sens. Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) that would have mandated universal background checks.
"As governor, I'm going to push," McAuliffe said. "We need universal background checks for everyone to keep our loved ones safe."
Cuccinelli mentioned that McAuliffe was the only candidate among the six running statewide who has received an "F" grade from the NRA. After the Colorado recall of State Senators John Morse and Angela Giron, McAuliffe vowed to bring Colorado-style gun control laws to Virginia.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...o-Push-for-More-Gun-Control-if-Elected-VA-Gov

Yeah,you won't vote for Cooch over gun control because he ain't libertarian enough for your taste.
Brilliant!

The next Governor of Virginia will either be Ken Cuccinelli or Terry McAuliffe PERIOD!

 

[Carlybee]

One of these days all of us libertarians are going to have to pony up and get out of the Republican party.

 

[eduardo89]

One of these days all of us libertarians are going to have to pony up and get out of the Republican party.

 

[mad cow]

One of these days all of us libertarians are going to have to pony up and get out of the Republican party.

Hey,at least we would get more votes than the Green Party.
Some years...

 

[Carlybee]

And that response is one of the reasons why. When your so called fellow "liberty" Republicans start acting like every douchebag Democrat you have to deal with, says a lot.

 

[eduardo89]

And that response is one of the reasons why.

Well, when you openly criticise and advocate against the Republican nominee, who would arguably be the best governor in the country and a crucial ally to Rand Paul in 2016 (not just in the primaries but in the general in a big swing state), what do you expect the response from Republicans would be when you threaten to leave the party?

 

[Carlybee]

Well, when you openly criticise and advocate against the Republican nominee, who would arguably be the best governor in the country and a crucial ally to Rand Paul in 2016 (not just in the primaries but in the general in a big swing state), what do you expect the response from Republicans would be when you threaten to leave the party?

I would expect the response from Republicans to be exactly what I got. I would expect the response from anyone truly committed to liberty to be a bit different. And your assertion that he would be the best governor in the country is most definitely a matter of opinion.

 

[eduardo89]

I would expect the response from Republicans to be exactly what I got. I would expect the response from anyone truly committed to liberty to be a bit different. And your assertion that he would be the best governor in the country is most definitely a matter of opinion.

Which current governor is better?

 

[angelatc]

Laugh while you lose elections. Either get right with liberty or lose. Self defense is not up for debate.

The Libertarians are the people who lose elections. We're allowed to laugh at them, because we all went through the same phase.

 

[Carlybee]

Which current governor is better?

Subjective depending on your criteria. If I lived in Virginia I would support Sarvis on ideological criteria personally but then I am not a conservative Republican.

 

[Carlybee]

The Libertarians are the people who lose elections. We're allowed to laugh at them, because we all went through the same phase.

Republicans lost the presidential election and enough senate seats to be in the minority.

 

[thoughtomator]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...o-Push-for-More-Gun-Control-if-Elected-VA-Gov

Yeah,you won't vote for Cooch over gun control because he ain't libertarian enough for your taste.
Brilliant!

The next Governor of Virginia will either be Ken Cuccinelli or Terry McAuliffe PERIOD!

Really, you should know better than to try and sell "lesser evil" here.

 

[mad cow]

Really, you should know better than to try and sell "lesser evil" here.

Hey vote for me.I promise that I will nullify every gun law,drug law,tax law,vehicle law,Any gosh darned law passed since 1788.
I will also give you one FRN dollar.You gonna get that deal from Sarvis,McAuliffe or Cuccinneli?
Seriously,PM me.

Yer not worried that your vote might be wasted are you?Tell me that you aren't one of them "lesser of two evil" types.Gawd how I hate them!

 

[eduardo89]

Really, you should know better than to try and sell "lesser evil" here.

And voting for Sarvis isn't voting for the 'lesser evil?'

 

[enoch150]

Well, when you openly criticise and advocate against the Republican nominee, who would arguably be the best governor in the country and a crucial ally to Rand Paul in 2016 (not just in the primaries but in the general in a big swing state), what do you expect the response from Republicans would be when you threaten to leave the party?

That depends on whether the party believes it can win even without our support. It appears that Cuccinelli and the Republicans in Virginia cannot.

So how is your response helping your cause?

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The Libertarians are the people who lose elections. We're allowed to laugh at them, because we all went through the same phase.

Many Libertarians first went through the phase of being Republicans (AKA, the people who lose legislatively). We're allowed to laugh at them back.

 

[thoughtomator]

Hey vote for me.I promise that I will nullify every gun law,drug law,tax law,vehicle law,Any gosh darned law passed since 1788.
I will also give you one FRN dollar.You gonna get that deal from Sarvis,McAuliffe or Cuccinneli?
Seriously,PM me.

Yer not worried that your vote might be wasted are you?Tell me that you aren't one of them "lesser of two evil" types.Gawd how I hate them!

I would vote for that. Except for the one dollar part which is illegal.

 

[thoughtomator]

And voting for Sarvis isn't voting for the 'lesser evil?'

No, because a ballot line for the Libertarian Party is good, and the leverage it will give libertarians within the VAGOP will be even better.

Not sure if you're from VA or not but the RPV is all but openly hostile to the libertarian faction it depends on to produce electoral majorities.

 

[Carlybee]

And voting for Sarvis isn't voting for the 'lesser evil?'

No because they are better on civil liberties than most Republicans although I'm not sure some conservative Republicans would get that. (On social issues, personally I am not against gay marriage but not sure pushing it as a campaign item is a great idea, but they are trying to grow the party.) He may also be trying to appeal to the independents there too.