The great smoking experiment?

[VoluntaryAmerican]

You are obviously reading that post in a much different way than me. I didn't see him advocating any draconian laws. All I got out of it was that a non-smoker is less likely to be able to enjoy what's going on in the room than the smoker if the smoker smokes. That's true. I don't know where you are coming up with all these other assumptions that zippy supposedly made. I disagree with zippy on a lot of things, but this isn't one of them.

Did he correct me?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Did he correct me?

PaulConventionWV was correct- I did not suggest any draconian solutions. In fact, I have not suggested any sollutions- instead I have raised points and questions. I felt he answered well enough for me so I moved on. (+rep to him for that).

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

PaulConventionWV was correct- I did not suggest any draconian solutions. In fact, I have not suggested any sollutions- instead I have raised points and questions. I felt he answered well enough for me so I moved on. (+rep to him for that).

Just because you didn't suggest something doesn't mean you don't support a smoking ban.

Do you support a smoking ban in private establishments?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yes. I want to take all of your cigarettes from you at gunpoint if necessary. What was your address?

 

[DamianTV]

Yes. I want to take all of your cigarettes from you at gunpoint if necessary. What was your address?

^^^ Wow sarcasm!

Again, lets look at Pot. Just said the same thing in another thread, but same thing will apply here too. When the Legal Consequences of any substance are greater than the Medical Consequences of that substance, you have Injustice.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

My basic point on the issue is that smoking does not only impact the person who chooses to smoke but also those around them. It takes away their right to choose not to smoke. If you can smoke and keep all of the smoke to yourself- fine. Build a bubble suit to contain it or some big bag to breath into with you. Do it as much you want to. It can have potential negative health impacts on others.

A less- harmful example? Music noise. Got iPod with headphones? Blast your eardrums as loud as you want. Got a million watt stereo blasting at full volume at all hours of the day and night? That is imposing on people. Don't like my stereo? Tough. Move. Sell that house you have lived in for 20 years. I have a right to be as loud as I want anytime I want.

"Imposing"? Is that your standard for government intervention, really?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Just because you didn't suggest something doesn't mean you don't support a smoking ban.

Do you support a smoking ban in private establishments?

So now you're going to be all like. "You DO support smoking bans! Prove that you don't!"

Seriously, man, lighten up.

 

[DamianTV]

Soverign - Your house, your rules. My house, my rules.

Draconian - My house, your rules. Your house, someone elses rules.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I farted...

 

[Dr.3D]

I farted...

Nothing to be ashamed of, happens to the best of us.

 

[DamianTV]

I farted...

Way to kill the thread, AF!

 

[jay_dub]

I farted...

Quick! Somebody light up a smoke to kill the smell!!

 

[DamianTV]

Something I find kind of funny.

I hear a lot of people complain about the way tobacco cigarettes smell, but I hear a lot less people complain about the way pot smells. And Im sure just about everyone has been around someone else smoking pot. So we all know that pot has a very powerful odor. Much like AF's anal evaporations. Now personally, I rather enjoy the way pot smells when its smoked. But very few people seem (just my perspective) to gripe about stinky old pot.

Now why is that?

 

[tod evans]

Programming.

Something I find kind of funny.

I hear a lot of people complain about the way tobacco cigarettes smell, but I hear a lot less people complain about the way pot smells. And Im sure just about everyone has been around someone else smoking pot. So we all know that pot has a very powerful odor. Much like AF's anal evaporations. Now personally, I rather enjoy the way pot smells when its smoked. But very few people seem (just my perspective) to gripe about stinky old pot.

Now why is that?

 

[acptulsa]

Why do you assume that the two in the room can't settle it themselves? Neither of them are forced to be there and if they are in a work situation, that is at the discretion of the owner of the establishment (well it was).

Why is your first reaction more draconian laws dictating banal trivialities of life?

Or as my grandfather would say, "Mind your own goddamn business."

Some people don't take into consideration the needs and rights of others. It's called 'being rude'.

Other people capitalize on that rudeness to try to legislate politeness. But these attempts to legislate politeness put the pinch on all of our liberties. Which is also called, 'being rude'.

If you impinge someone's liberties in the name of legislating politeness, you are the most rude of all. How have we forgotten this simple fact?

Leaving it to property owners to establish which businesses allow smoking and which don't is not segregation. If it's clearly marked, maybe even in the Yellow Pages ad and the website, then no one who is extremely sensitive to smoke or smoke residue is ever at risk unless they intentionally put themselves at risk. All they have to do is boycott...

A lack of respect for one another leads to a loss of liberty. Simple. Eternal. And obvious--if you think about it a moment.

 

[tod evans]

If people are actually sensitive to tobacco smoke how is it that exhaust gasses don't cause anaphylaxis?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Nothing to be ashamed of, happens to the best of us.

Way to kill the thread, AF!

Quick! Somebody light up a smoke to kill the smell!!

There was a tongue in cheek point to that comment.

That being, we all do things that could possibly offend.

I mean, consider, what would be worse, smelling some smoke from a tiny shred of smoldering plant matter or the gas molecules that were, just seconds before, released from someone's ass?

People in general need to lighten up, not only about this, but a million other petty offenses that occur every day.

 

[Dr.3D]

If people are actually sensitive to tobacco smoke how is it that exhaust gasses don't cause anaphylaxis?

I'm pretty sure, if someone developed some benign odor and it smelled like tobacco smoke, those same people would still be "sensitive" to it.

 

[dannno]

Something I find kind of funny.

I hear a lot of people complain about the way tobacco cigarettes smell, but I hear a lot less people complain about the way pot smells. And Im sure just about everyone has been around someone else smoking pot. So we all know that pot has a very powerful odor. Much like AF's anal evaporations. Now personally, I rather enjoy the way pot smells when its smoked. But very few people seem (just my perspective) to gripe about stinky old pot.

Now why is that?

Because you can smoke pretty much unlimited quantities of cannabis in your bedroom and the next day, everything else equal, it will smell completely normal. I'd even say within 30-60 minutes is pretty safe if there is any ventilation what-so-ever. Now, if you're smoking blunts or joints that's a little different because blunt paper is made of tobacco and joints have a burning piece of paper and that smell may stick a little longer.

If you smoke cigarettes in your room, over time, the walls get yellow, the curtains, carpet and all the furniture starts smelling like tobacco. Tobacco odor "sticks" and can cause permanent damage. Many hotel rooms have that cigarette stench.

 

[pcosmar]

Two people in a room. One wants to smoke. The other doesn't. Which one should be forced to leave the room if they don't like it?

25 people in a bar. 15 want to smoke,, Who should leave?
Perhaps the Bar Owner should decide.