The great college hoax

0zzy said:
The article assumes that every kid is stupid enough to pay more than $10,000 a semester for school. I pay $20 per hour, then I'll go to a University. It's much cheaper and, I would say, really does help.

I'll major in Business Administration with a concentration in Entertainment Management and a minor in Radio-Television-Film.
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smart move ozzy, when'd you head out to CA?
 
To receive an education is not a hoax, it is a hoax how ever to believe that you don't need an EDUCATION to compete in the world's job market. I much rather be in the company of someone that is a college graduate than not, the conversations seem to be much more profound compared to someone who's gotten all their education from google. People need to have the basic knowledge to function these days - i.e. Math skills, knowledge of geography and foreign languages. Shit most Americans can't even read a world map and this thread is advocating that education for them is a waste??? Of course a History degree won't give you the return on your investment as a engineering degree but they are still ahead of the schmo that has no degree.
 
schiffstudent said:
To receive an education is not a hoax, it is a hoax how ever to believe that you don't need an EDUCATION to compete in the world's job market. I much rather be in the company of someone that is a college graduate than not, the conversations seem to be much more profound compared to someone who's gotten all their education from google. People need to have the basic knowledge to function these days - i.e. Math skills, knowledge of geography and foreign languages. Shit most Americans can't even read a world map and this thread is advocating that education for them is a waste??? Of course a History degree won't give you the return on your investment as a engineering degree but they are still ahead of the schmo that has no degree.
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In most jobs, the employer wants experience too. Does a degree necessarily mean one is "intelligent" or "knowledgeable"? No. I'm aware of people who conned their way through college without any significant reading skills. Government subsidization of degrees has devalued degrees even further. :p So, to answer your question-yes, "higher education" is a waste for many individuals (not all).
 
heavenlyboy34 said:
In most jobs, the employer wants experience too. Does a degree necessarily mean one is "intelligent" or "knowledgeable"? No. I'm aware of people who conned their way through college without any significant reading skills. Government subsidization of degrees has devalued degrees even further. :p So, to answer your question-yes, "higher education" is a waste for many individuals (not all).
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You'll never begin to get experience unless you have something to offer an employer. Yes, busting your ass to get a higher education in any degree makes you more knowledgeable about the world around us than someone that has never stepped on a campus in his or her life. LOL only in America could you find a thread like this that tries to justify not going to college, even when you have a red carpet opportunity to go (for the mean time anways). You wouldn't find a thread like this in Asia, South America, or most other regions of the world because they know a college education can change lives, something a spoiled American kid would never know.
 
schiffstudent said:
You'll never begin to get experience unless you have something to offer an employer. Yes, busting your ass to get a higher education in any degree makes you more knowledgeable about the world around us than someone that has never stepped on a campus in his or her life. LOL only in America could you find a thread like this that tries to justify not going to college, even when you have a red carpet opportunity to go (for the mean time anways). You wouldn't find a thread like this in Asia, South America, or most other regions of the world because they know a college education can change lives, something a spoiled American kid would never know.
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There's knowledge, and there's USEFUL knowledge. You're misrepresenting my position. :p I'm saying that college MAY be useful for some people, but clearly not EVERYONE. Some jobs just don't require a degree (many high paying blue collar jobs, like welders). Plus, the job market is saturated with college grads because of gov'ment subsidization. This makes the degree much less valuable. It sounds like you're looking at this from a "philosophical" standpoint (where knowledge can be ascribed a literal value), but I am looking at this from a realistic standpoint. BIG difference. ;):D
 
schiffstudent said:
Now it's not our fault? That's ok truth warrior, I know there are indeed a lot of ethnocentric people in this country that can't speak any language other than English and can't tell you whats outside their state, let alone the rest of the world.
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Nope, not your fault AT ALL. That today it requires a college degree to only maybe approximate what I learned in high school. :rolleyes:

I'm still amazed by the numbers of college grads I meet that BRAG about not reading even one book since college. :( :( :(
 
Truth Warrior said:
Nope, not your fault AT ALL. That today it requires a college degree to only maybe approximate what I learned in high school. :rolleyes:

I'm still amazed by the numbers of college grads I meet that BRAG about not reading even one book since college. :( :( :(
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They brag about this? Seriously? :eek::(:(:( (I don't talk to many recent college grads, so I wouldn't know)
 
heavenlyboy34 said:
There's knowledge, and there's USEFUL knowledge. You're misrepresenting my position. :p I'm saying that college MAY be useful for some people, but clearly not EVERYONE. Some jobs just don't require a degree (many high paying blue collar jobs, like welders). Plus, the job market is saturated with college grads because of gov'ment subsidization. This makes the degree much less valuable. It sounds like you're looking at this from a "philosophical" standpoint (where knowledge can be ascribed a literal value), but I am looking at this from a realistic standpoint. BIG difference. ;):D
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I agree that if your doing blue collar jobs then a degree is probably a waste of time, but I guess I've spent too much time abroad and met so many college students that wouldn't dare waste their money on art history or other useless degrees, unlike most of the grads here in the U.S.
 
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