The goal released is a perfect example of the failures of central planning.

[Cardinal Red]

No need blaming anyone-- but lets learn a lesson

I'm proud of everyone who helped-- but honestly,as I tried to argue on this board previously, we shouldn't have been shouting about $12 Million a few days before the event when it was obvious it wasn't in the cards. It turned what should be a complete and overwhelming positive (The fact that we are going to pass every other Republican's 3rd quarter fundraising in 2 months of q4) and turned it into a bit of the mixed message.

Next time lets focus on underpromising and overdelivering. In reality, our performance today is outstanding consdidering we had just 2300 pledges.

 

[Eleanor]

How much did you give today?


The only thing that has been a failure about today, is the # of people who stubbornly refused to support it, and wasted an enormous amount of folks time by at times, working to undermine it.

I agree.

The focus by many seemed to be on a splashy party on Dec. 16th rather than getting RP elected.

And is there perhaps an element of "No one will tell ME what to do!!!"?

 

[Fyretrohl]

Guys...An important thing to remember and watch...NEW Donors. This is the growth of the campaign. That should probably be the GREATER focus than the 'money'.

 

[Wyurm]

You betcha.

IMHO, a splashy party on Dec. 16th seems more important to many than getting RP elected.

And is there perhaps an element of "No one will tell ME what to do!!!"?

You guys are free to keep this haughty attitude up, but the truth is that people will spend their money on what they feel is the best investment. Its alot like the stock market, why would you expect people to buy a crappy looking stock? However, people will happilly buy the stock that has all the makings of a success story.

That is why we work differently that what classical campaigners would expect. We do what we feel is best personally especially with our money. We don't follow the ones screaming "Obey!!!! or we will lose". Why would you buy a stock only because someone said you had to or the market would crash? That really doesn't sound like a good deal at all.

 

[deesteel]

Who cares we beat every other candidates 3rd quarter fund raising

We beat all other republican candidates 3rd quarter fund raising, awesome job everyone!

Trevor is the man, and any press is good press, keep up the good work!

 

[kmoon]

I'm new to these boards, and I since I don't have any fun arguments going with any of you people maybe you'll hear me out on this.

Stop acting like children.

"waaahhh I don't like the blimp, waaaaaaahhhh I don't like november 30th, WAAAHHH i run this campaign and they better do what i say!!"

If i were a rudy mcromney supporter I would be eating this up and laughing my ass of at you all.

As it is, I am a Ron Paul supporter and I would be laughing if it didn't scare me.

 

[KewlRonduderules]

I predicted as such... I knew this would happen.

Look the grassroots for a large part was in favor of the platform today so we should have been prepared for whatever consequences may come because of it. Take a look here for more information:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=41225&page=3


BUT there is no point focusing on it at this point. The day is not over. Let's minimize the spin the media will use against us. Get those fundraiser numbers up as much as possible! Keep donating!!!

 

[me3]

We haven't been able to control media spin so far, what makes us think this will be any different. I take immense satisfaction in knowing that the campaign should have an additional $400k to plug into the early states, as early as Wednesday next week.

As a community, we have to stop worrying about who will give us praise, who talks nicely or poorly about the campaign and who talks down the revolution.

What we do, doesn't require external validation, and even wins in NH and IA, would still have their share of attackers and detractors. We can't afford to be mired in the thinking that the PUNDITS and MSM will make Dr. Paul a success.

It's OUR job. Accept the responsibility. Make it happen instead of waiting for it to happen.

 

[Wyle]

Campaign keeps on moving..... dec 4th ... ron paul on the view and the view averages 3.5 million viewers.... chances are he will plug dec 16th as well..... like the other commenter said.... hey we just gave the campaign more cash to plug away.. chances are today with be a 500k day...

 

[KewlRonduderules]

We haven't been able to control media spin so far, what makes us think this will be any different. I take immense satisfaction in knowing that the campaign should have an additional $400k to plug into the early states, as early as Wednesday next week.

Believe me so do I. We are not going to be able to control media spin - that is VERY true. BUT... we can minimize it by preparing and safeguarding ourselves. Believe it or not, this is possible and it works to our advantage when we do things this way. The reality most of America believes what the media tells them still- although to a lesser extent nowadays.

I am happy too about the amount we have raised so far but there is a cost to this- the media spin, the naysayers, and the political operatives infiltrating this forum.

As a community, we have to stop worrying about who will give us praise, who talks nicely or poorly about the campaign and who talks down the revolution.

Look, the reality is we are human. In an ideal world, this would be perfect. But it is not. We live in a very hard world where WE HAVE TO CARE what others think otherwise, it will hurt us in the political arena. The reality - this is politics and you want to win over voters with your message so you better care.

What we do, doesn't require external validation, and even wins in NH and IA, would still have their share of attackers and detractors. We can't afford to be mired in the thinking that the PUNDITS and MSM will make Dr. Paul a success.

You better believe it does- we definitely need external validation- we want voters do we? Just look at what I said above. As for the PUNDITS and MSM- you need them. They have the power. That's the reality but this does not mean you can't beat them at their own game. You can. You just need to be smart about it.

It's OUR job. Accept the responsibility. Make it happen instead of waiting for it to happen.

I agree with you here. Right on.

 

[Edward]

We are not going to be able to control media spin - that is VERY true.

What spin is that? Going over $10 million for the quarter. Breaking $500 K for the day... our second best fundraising day on relatively short notice. Breaking other GOP fundraising marks this campaign. It's all good!

 

[KewlRonduderules]

What spin is that? Going over $10 million for the quarter. Breaking $500 K for the day... our second best fundraising day on relatively short notice. Breaking other GOP fundraising marks this campaign. It's all good!

I like your thinking.

 

[me3]

I like your thinking.

+1

 

[expatinireland]

Those that talk to the press can make a point of saying that we intentionally keep the bar high. Another positive is that by the end we might have donors exceeding pledges by 3X. 1/2 million on one of the worst days of the week for an event is a great result especially with the competing demands - blimp, ongoing requests from campaign, Tea Party, Christmas, social activities.

 

[planetaryjim]

There's no loss here. We're winning. We're raising money hand over fist. The day is not done, and we're up half a million dollars already. We've blasted past the third quarter numbers sent in by all the other candidates, except what Romney lent to his own campaign. And, we can simply extend the work on Saturday and Sunday, if we please, to meet the $12M by Monday. At the rate things are going today, no, we won't top $12M by midnight in Guam. But, we can certainly cross $12M by the time the pundits get out of bed on Monday morning to look at Ron's web page.

So what if Trevor said we'd raise $2.5M today? Trevor is a great guy, and he has done wonderful things, but he's just this guy. He's not God. He's not Ron. He's not in charge.

The criticism of central planning is well taken. Central planning doesn't work well, compared to distributed planning. What we have today is the response of thousands of Americans to a call by the campaign to speed up the donations. We are responding very, very well.

And if the mainstream media want to spin it as a failure, so what? That's news! News about the campaign is plus good! They cannot manage to spell his name wrong, what with the four letters, so it is all plus good, no matter what they say.

Moreover, when has any attack from the mainstream media been bad for us? Every time they ignore him during the debates, allow Romney to steal a straw poll, or put Mr. Lenard's ad in the wrong section, they generate sympathy and support for our cause. Being the underdog and the dark horse and the long shot is working. Having the media call us failures for raising half or three quarters of a million dollars in a day? That just adds to the joy. It is better for us.

We'll be in a lot more fragile condition if the mainstream media ever makes Dr. Paul their darling.

 

[JacobLyles]

GREAT day on short notice. What did you expect in 9 days?

 

[kotetu]

$200k more and we have doubled our own 3rd quarter. That'll be GREAT! Then let's get $10million on the 16th!!!

 

[LinkClan]

Okay, it's time to send in the archers! Send now the children! All school age children promote now the TEA PARTY! It's a must watch! Tell your friends, tell their parents, I WANT TO BE PART OF THE TEA PARTY!

 

[RickNHouston]

Attn NH residents;

I have 4 adult males willing and ready to go to New Hampshire the first week of January to block walk, sign wave, door knock or whatever else is needed. Two are married and two single with significant others ranging from mid 30's to mid 50's. All clean and sober family types. We can pay our own transportation costs but will need a place to stay. Any body have any spare room. Might be too late for this but I have always heard that colors of the trees in New England are a sight to behold at this time of year at least once in a mans lifettime. Plus we don't get too much snow down here in Houston either so that might add some excitement to it as well.
Plz IM or e-mail me at [email protected]

thnx
Rick W.

 

[macdee]

I put in my five hundred dollars today.

I think the campaign is doing well. I had to donate today for the Rudy Reading List Day. And I'm donating one thousand dollars for our Tea Party 07. So everything is doing well. I also make a pledge to the blimp project and waiting for that to get off the ground. It would be nice to see contributions for the Ron Paul R3VOLUTION blimp coming in from overseas.

I saw Bill Clinton is in Ireland getting campaign money for Hillery. Why don't we have overseas funds coming into the Ron Paul campaign?

How does Bill and Hillary get away with this crap! Getting campaign contributions from overseas?

This IS total political corruption! For PROOF of this... Just do a google video search on wearechange Bill Clinton.

WTF