The EPA and refrigerant regulations

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Feeling the chill: EPA ban on common coolants has lawmakers, industry worried

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...lawmakers-industry-worried/?intcmp=latestnews

Lawmakers and industry groups are worried fast-approaching Environmental Protection Agency rules banning certain gases used in commercial refrigeration and air conditioners could have a chilling effect on business.

The EPA is looking to impose the new rules starting in January 2016, restricting refrigeration coolants commonly found in grocery stores, restaurants and cars -- not only in fridges and air conditioners but also vending machines and insulation.

Critics, though, complain the proposed rules would force commercial refrigeration to shift from what's known as hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) to alternative coolants -- only a few years after they were told HFCs were the best alternative to ozone-depleting gasses.

And they’re worried about the tight timetable, calling the January 2016 deadline “arbitrary and capricious.”

“That [deadline] puts everyone in a difficult position, with manufacturers not knowing how to spend their resources and dollars,” said Stephen Yurek, president and CEO of the Air Conditioning, Heating and Refrigeration Institute.

“We just can’t go to our members and tell them not to worry about it.”

Rep. Kyle Whitfield, R-Ky., chairman of the House energy and power subcommittee, is also raising concerns, sending a letter to the EPA last week asking for more information about the rules.

“I understand the consensus among the affected companies in the refrigeration, motor vehicle and insulation industries is that the proposed compliance requirement would cause considerable economic harm and job losses, and may increase rather than reduce safety for the American public,” he wrote.

Part of the problem is industry voices say they can’t keep up with federal rules that dictate what is and what isn’t killing the ozone layer and spewing dangerous greenhouse gasses into the air.

More than 20 years ago, the EPA, under the guidance of the Montreal Protocol, decided to end the use of hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs) because they were accelerating ozone depletion. At the time, HFCs were considered a better alternative because they are safer for the ozone.

But now, HFCs are said to be contributing to greenhouse gas emissions 1,430 times more damaging to the climate than carbon dioxide, as the demand for utilities using HFCs in developing nations rises.

“If HFC growth continues on the current trajectory, the increase in HFC emissions is projected to offset much of the climate benefit achieved by phasing out ozone-depleting substances,” the EPA has stated. It estimates commercial refrigeration accounts for approximately 32 percent of global HFC use.

The EPA issued the new proposed rules (as an amendment to the Clean Air Act) in July 2014, and opened them up to public comment. The agency has not said when the final rules will be announced. The EPA did not return a request for comment.

Whitfield, in his letter, said not only are there concerns with the phase-out but there were concerns with the potential alternatives – one being a specific, flammable alternative gas. Aside from the refrigerants, all foam-blowing sprays used for insulation must be HFC-free by January 2017, and motor vehicle air conditioners by 2021.

Any new construction after the deadline will have to incorporate machines using HFC alternatives. While retail owners will be allowed to use their existing machines with HFCs after January 2016, they won’t be able to buy replacement parts for the old technology, and will eventually have to transition all equipment to adjust to the new coolants.

Whitfield contends it’s a costly process and “American consumers will bear much of the cost of the proposed rule” through higher prices and less energy efficiency. He doesn’t even know if the new rules would be “legal” under the Clean Air Act.

Avipsa Mahapatra, international climate policy analyst at Environmental Investigation Agency, does not agree with Whitfield’s assessment. She said good alternatives are out there, and supermarkets are already taking advantage of them in Europe and Canada and in scattered stores in the U.S.

“It makes good business sense,” she said, insisting that the replacement gases are more efficient, and safer, than the HFCs. She pointed out that globally, HFCs are being phased out, and said the U.S. is in a great position to lead the shift.

Already, major chemical and technology companies like DuPont, Coca-Cola and Honeywell have signed on, with millions of dollars, to make the transition work.

“The [current] technology is becoming obsolete,” Mahapatra told FoxNews.com. “I do not believe this new rule would kill business. If anything it is an amazing opportunity for American businesses to be leaders. In five, 10 or 15 years, when the rest of the world is looking to buy new technology, they will look toward to the U.S. to buy it.”

Yurek said, for his association, it’s not necessarily the rules but the time frame that has them scratching their heads.

“We understand we have to move to refrigeration [coolants] that are available, and that have low global warming potential,” he said. The institute has also pledged $5 million for research and development to find such alternatives. “We want to limit the environmental impact.”

However, “there is all sorts of pressure” to move now, and without widely approved alternatives.

“Everybody is researching and trying to find the alternative that provides the best efficiency and performance – and we don’t have that yet,” Yurek said. “[The deadline is] coming fast. We want to comply but it is so disconcerting.”
 
If congress would get off it's dead ass and assume the role it is supposed to play, there would be less of this nonsense.

What are we paying these cocksuckers for anyway, if it is just the bureaucracy that rules us, by decree and mandate, now?

Regulation without Representation.
 
Ecoterrorist Partnership Authoritay. Doing all it can to destroy economic growth to benefit climate change/One World Order special interests.
 
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I posted on this article. I think the first thing that should happen is that Congress should cut the EPA's utility budget. No heat or AC, no refrigerators, coffee makers, or soft drink machines. See how long that lasts.
 
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Someone's favor is being called in. EPA also said the air was safe to breath after 9/11. This agency is worthless and needs to go!
 
70's THE ICE AGE IS COMING WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE !!!! .....
80's OZONE !!!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!! BAN HAIR SPRAY....
90's R13 !!!!!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE !!!!!
2000's .. GLOBAL WARMING WE'LL ALL BE DEAD THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!

Only Al Gore can save us with the first real push for GLOBAL TAXES, of which billions will/would line his pockets through the exchange he
co created.

Freedom is no good without TYRANNICAL GLOBALISM....


Three Cheers for the NEW WORLD ORDER ,,,,,HIP HIP ....



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EPA is the only alphabet agency I trust;

When RADIATION LEAKAGE BECOMES INCREDIBLY OVER THE TOP PPM dangerous, they raise the unsafe levels to SAFE X's 1000's .

See what they did there , God Bless Corrupt Government , their heart is always in the right spot.


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I just sent a check to The New World Order Global Cooling Corporation ATTN: Chicken Little, and dated it 1977 so they'd know waht to use it for.



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I REALLY don't see this happening. R404A has only been around since the mid to late 90's. and now they are going to ban it?
get real.
R-404A was the only good one of the lot for commercial refrigeration. nearly everything is running it now. (we don't use 134A anymore AF)(but it is still good for cars and domestic appliances. :))
what they are pushing is CO2, but it is only in the pilot stage.
R-410A (puron) is the "golden child" it has been in the domestic market since the late 90's and is only now being forced into the commercial sector.
there are no refrigeration applications for it that I know of.

all of these different gasses, (freon) are making it tough on the young guys. us old dogs were trained when there were only 3. (high, medium and low)
personally, I am getting out of the business, (sorta) and moving in a new direction.

in the same way that it happened to electronics, they seem to be getting rid of real tech's.
and making everything "plug and pray"

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I REALLY don't see this happening.

Yeah, that's what everybody said about R12.

(we don't use 134A anymore AF)(but it is still good for cars and domestic appliances. :))

Yah that's all I was referencing, automotive use, since I don't fuss around much with stationary systems.

The new "green" refrigerant mandated by EU and EPA is just ducky...all new cars have to use R1234yf.

Joy.

Regulation without Representation.
 
Because billions of people rely on a safe food supply that requires refrigeration and refrigerants.

this is true.
while they ALL operate on the same principle. (vapor compression)
refrigeration and A/C equipment differ,
in the fact that refrigeration equipment has to run in all weather.
:)
 
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