The Delusion of Limited Government

[ProIndividual]

Funny thing about that video. People take from it what they want. What Ron actually said. "If you have a government, they will want us to all be socialistic. But they will never allow an enclave to go and become libertarian. Just accept nothing, receive nothing, no obligations. But if we had a libertarian society and people wanted to go and run things socialisticly, you had some of those in our early history, the literally lived in socialist enclaves. They didn't have to live off us. I mean even today, the people, the Amish, they'd like to be left alone. And they shouldn't be required to pay social security or the income tax...so libertarianism is much more tolerant than socialism."

Funny but I didn't hear the word or the concept "minarchism" being said from Ron Paul at all. He spoke of a socialistic government versus a libertarian society.



It's the job of the Amish Mafia according to the Discovery Channel. But seriously, if the Amish must be protected by some external government then shouldn't they have to pay taxes to that external government? Is it really fair for non Amish to pay taxes that support the U.S. military and state and local police for protection while the Amish get a free ride because they want to be "left alone?" Okay, let them opt out of social security, but Ron also said the income tax.

Edit: Anyway, in a libertarian society groups could choose to band together for the common defense, hire out their services for those who wanted to pay for them, and decide to do "charity justice" for groups like the Amish that didn't want to pay for them and didn't believe they needed the services because they believed God would protect they and if God didn't then what happened to them must be God's will anyway.

"Ver expounds on bounties for black hats ($45,000 was paid out just last week), de-funding war mongers, and uncensorable predictions markets."



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"This might fall under decentralization and security. It's an app that sort of could replace 911, but it doesn't send alerts to authorities, but instead to everyone you have it preset to send messages to (like all your friends)."

It also allows an option for public alerts, an actual fire dept is already using it for people who want to drop public alerts, and they use it as a dispatch (it's free). It also has a "cell" option, where you start your own private security firm.





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[ProIndividual]

For those who think voting matters and the politicians will listen if only we elect the "right" people:

Professors Martin Gilens (Princeton University) and Benjamin I. Page (Northwestern University) looked at more than 20 years worth of data to answer a simple question: Does the government represent the people?

Their study took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law. In other words, they compared what the public wanted to what the government actually did. What they found was extremely unsettling: The opinions of 90% of Americans have essentially no impact at all.

This video gives a quick rundown of their findings — it all boils down to one simple graph:

 

[Ronin Truth]

For those who think voting matters and the politicians will listen if only we elect the "right" people:

Good one. Thanks! +Rep!

 

[HVACTech]

If it helps any to get over the apparently insurmountable speed bump of 'anarchy', just go ahead and consider me a minarchist.

My min is ZERO, what's yours?

"An anarchist is anyone who believes in less government than you do." -- Bob LeFevre

yes Ronin. I agree with both you and the incredibly verbose individual above. we concur on nearly everything!
except in how to get it done.

that is our difference. what path do anarchists propose to a stateless society?
how are we going to make that happen Ronin?

once this goal has been met. how do you propose to keep it that way?

you know what I endorse to get us there. in fact, you constantly attack and minimize it.

HOW are YOU going to get rid of the "state" Ronin?
and how do you keep it away?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

For those who think voting matters and the politicians will listen if only we elect the "right" people:

+rep