The damage is done, the media did its job
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I've been in this movement for around 6 or 7 years myself.
I've dropped many hours and many dollars on the campaign.
This is the FIGHT phase.
To get to the WIN phase, we must GO THROUGH this phase.
Some won't have the stomach/spine for getting through it.
I do.
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hey maybe this is the secret strategy... because i am hearing his name every 15 min now on cnn... ?
the way i look at it nothing in those letters is that bad ... mostly the hard truth and is that now what DR Paul is all about .....
get his name out there and then us grass rooters can explain the truth about the matter that ron is not a raciest ... but will defend someones right to liberty and freedom and free thought
the way i look at it nothing in those letters is that bad ... mostly the hard truth and is that now what DR Paul is all about .....
get his name out there and then us grass rooters can explain the truth about the matter that ron is not a raciest ... but will defend someones right to liberty and freedom and free thought
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To the MSM:
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Hi ChicagoLawyer, I know you've been a forum member a long time - I used to lurk on these boards when there weren't many people here and I remember you being on very early.
So I'm very worried that such strong supporters as you feel so upset over the issue. I too would be upset if I thought there was any weight to the accusations but I don't. I wish to point out a few things:
Ron didn't write those articles; nobody - even Fox! - is claiming he did.
Check out ronpaullibrary, the dozen books he has published, articles written, two presedential campaings, tv debates, interviews, speeches in Congress ... and you'll no doubt be reminded that he has not once said anything of this nature. In fact he has gone out of his way to repudiate racism, and criticise viewing people in groups.
His views on capital punishment have changed (rare he changes
) precisely because he has seen it misused against black americans.
He has spent 30yrs telling the truth, however much pressure is put upon him to do otherwise. Think through how frustrating it must be for him - a decent man, veteran, doctor, congressman who actually cares about his country and the consitution to be labelled everywhere as a terrorist sympathiser because he wouldn't support the idiotic war in Iraq. Did he crumble? Change his tune? Pander? Nope - he tells it straight always. So when he says he didn't write the articles I believe him.
Some have mentioned that there seems uncertainty about how many articles/ the time span of them etc. Well if one looks at the offensive articles there is quite a variety - some of which alone wouldn't be very noteworthy. He should have kept a closer eye on any publication who he lent his name to but he was a doctor at the time and we all know he would have been giving his patients 100% of the attention. If tomorrow Lew Rockwell goes crazy and starts writing offensive articles would that make Ron guilty of that?
As regards racist charges in general the man takes his political inspiration from Mises, Hayek and Rothbard (all Jewish, and the latter a friend) and has listed at various times his heroes as being Martin Luther King (black), Rosa Parks (black) and Gandhi (Asian Indian).
To broaden it out Obama's Church has all kinds of very reactionary ideals. Rudy's (can't rememebr exactly who it is) campaign manager or some other aide talks of driving muslims "back to the caves". McCain calls Asians "gooks". And that's before we start on with what supporters of Hillary have done/said.
What does this have to do with RP? Well it ought to remind us very clearly that every presedential candidate will have people in some way associated with them who they do not control/agree with. I wish the world was perfect and everybody open-minded but it isn't. And clearly whoever wrote those articles isn't. Ron however I think is a very open-minded person, a gentleman and our best hope for a color-blind society. You can feel confident in supporting him and encouraging others to do so - Ron has devoted his entire life to defending the liberty of all people, of every race and color and his record is proof of it. As he himself said he's the anti-racist candidate. I hope you'll continue to support him and contribute on this forum.
So I'm very worried that such strong supporters as you feel so upset over the issue. I too would be upset if I thought there was any weight to the accusations but I don't. I wish to point out a few things:
Ron didn't write those articles; nobody - even Fox! - is claiming he did.
Check out ronpaullibrary, the dozen books he has published, articles written, two presedential campaings, tv debates, interviews, speeches in Congress ... and you'll no doubt be reminded that he has not once said anything of this nature. In fact he has gone out of his way to repudiate racism, and criticise viewing people in groups.
His views on capital punishment have changed (rare he changes
) precisely because he has seen it misused against black americans.He has spent 30yrs telling the truth, however much pressure is put upon him to do otherwise. Think through how frustrating it must be for him - a decent man, veteran, doctor, congressman who actually cares about his country and the consitution to be labelled everywhere as a terrorist sympathiser because he wouldn't support the idiotic war in Iraq. Did he crumble? Change his tune? Pander? Nope - he tells it straight always. So when he says he didn't write the articles I believe him.
Some have mentioned that there seems uncertainty about how many articles/ the time span of them etc. Well if one looks at the offensive articles there is quite a variety - some of which alone wouldn't be very noteworthy. He should have kept a closer eye on any publication who he lent his name to but he was a doctor at the time and we all know he would have been giving his patients 100% of the attention. If tomorrow Lew Rockwell goes crazy and starts writing offensive articles would that make Ron guilty of that?
As regards racist charges in general the man takes his political inspiration from Mises, Hayek and Rothbard (all Jewish, and the latter a friend) and has listed at various times his heroes as being Martin Luther King (black), Rosa Parks (black) and Gandhi (Asian Indian).
To broaden it out Obama's Church has all kinds of very reactionary ideals. Rudy's (can't rememebr exactly who it is) campaign manager or some other aide talks of driving muslims "back to the caves". McCain calls Asians "gooks". And that's before we start on with what supporters of Hillary have done/said.
What does this have to do with RP? Well it ought to remind us very clearly that every presedential candidate will have people in some way associated with them who they do not control/agree with. I wish the world was perfect and everybody open-minded but it isn't. And clearly whoever wrote those articles isn't. Ron however I think is a very open-minded person, a gentleman and our best hope for a color-blind society. You can feel confident in supporting him and encouraging others to do so - Ron has devoted his entire life to defending the liberty of all people, of every race and color and his record is proof of it. As he himself said he's the anti-racist candidate. I hope you'll continue to support him and contribute on this forum.
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All this crapo about racism is a diversion by the MSM to try and direct the conversation away from Ron Paul's message. Ignore it, Ron Paul answered the charge and that should be the end of it. If anything, turn it around on them. Awhile back Tim Russert steped on his own d--- when he asked Ron about Lincoln and slavery. Ron's answer was brillient when he said there was a better solution to ending slavery. Lincoln suspended habias corpus and 600,000 Americans died needlessly. The slaves could have been purchased by the government and set free without bloodshed.
If anyone is a racist it is the neocons and the MSM attack dogs. During the war the south was looted of anything of value and most everything else was destroyed. The Federal government left the southerners and the newly freed slaves with virtually nothing of value. The people survived only because they shared what they had left with each other. That is not racism folks, that is brotherly love. The neocons will never understand that. BTW: Know what we are dealing with, neocon is just another name for fascist. The MSM propagandists would make Joseph Goebbels proud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels.
If anyone is a racist it is the neocons and the MSM attack dogs. During the war the south was looted of anything of value and most everything else was destroyed. The Federal government left the southerners and the newly freed slaves with virtually nothing of value. The people survived only because they shared what they had left with each other. That is not racism folks, that is brotherly love. The neocons will never understand that. BTW: Know what we are dealing with, neocon is just another name for fascist. The MSM propagandists would make Joseph Goebbels proud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels.
Folks, COME ON!
If Mccain can somehow come back from trying to stab the entire republican base in the back with his amnesty bull***......This thing with RP will turn out to be a positive.
Americans have very short memories unless it is something that hurts them economically.
Mccains gaffe was economic and he still is in this. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
If Mccain can somehow come back from trying to stab the entire republican base in the back with his amnesty bull***......This thing with RP will turn out to be a positive.
Americans have very short memories unless it is something that hurts them economically.
Mccains gaffe was economic and he still is in this. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
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Don't worry. Ron has already these questions. They will play out soon enough.
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