The Cult Of Transgender

Lucille

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Man, the progs are fucking kids up in the worst way. It's child abuse.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-cult-of-transgender/

As a parent living the nightmare of having a teen who suddenly announces she’s transgender, I can tell you there are NO doctors who will do anything but agree. There is NO science behind this. There is NO way to medically “diagnose” her. Her therapist knows that she is not transgender but fears there’s no way we can stop her. Three of her closest friends have already had full transition, paid for by their parents, so it is difficult for her to understand why we won’t do the same. It is no different than having your child captured by a cult, only this time the cult is a societal bandwagon which wants to do permanent physical harm to her perfectly healthy female body, all in the name of “love”. As one of Rod’s sisters in the ancient faith, I ask for your prayers.

You might recall earlier this summer I posted this piece that included an excerpt of a conversation I had in Baltimore earlier in the year:
She said, “I know people accuse you of being alarmist all the time, but let me tell you that they aren’t raising teenagers in this culture.”

The woman told me that at her kids’ high school, a shocking number of students are going to their parents asking to be put on hormones and asking for surgery, because they are transgender. This is the cool thing, and the school is falling all over itself to be supportive, and to encourage an “ally” culture.

“What about the parents?” I said.

“They’re going along with it,” she replied.

“Why on earth?!” I said.

“Because they don’t want to lose their kids. Because everything in the culture tells them they should. Because they think that’s how they love their child. And these parents usually become the fiercest LGBT advocates.”

She told me that the high school kids are now sorting themselves by where they are on the gender spectrum. She added that her brother is a liberal Democrat, an atheist, and a biologist. He tells her that he’s extremely worried about this trans thing. The science simply isn’t there to justify these radical interventions, but scientists are terrified to speak out because of the general atmosphere in academia around these issues now.

Earlier this year, I contacted a scientist about a strictly scientific question related to biology and homosexuality, but he refused to comment. I found that strange, because my question wasn’t ideologically loaded at all. It was just scientific, and his answer presumably would have been too. He said that in academia, there is among professors now such fear of the mob that many of them figure it’s safer to keep one’s mouth shut rather than say something that one of these young Jacobins will take as offensive, no matter how absurd that reading is, and then set about ginning up the mob to destroy the scholar’s professional life.

If this isn’t McCarthyism, what is? It doesn’t become any less McCarthyist because it’s done by the cultural left.

God help the poor parents living this nightmare with their children, because the kind of professionals — doctors and others — who ought to be there reining in this insanity appear to have been totally compromised.

It cannot be the case that there are so many truly transgendered young people in the country. To call something with such severe physiological consequences a “fad” is too trite, but the transgender thing seems to be a faddish way for teenagers struggling to figure out how to relate to the world sexually to resolve the normal stresses of the maturation process. My belief is that there are and always have been teenagers who question their sexuality, and maybe even their gender identity, but most of them resolve these questions conventionally. We know for sure that this is the case with transgenders. A 2008 medical study found that most gender dysphoric youths had resolved their dysphoria by adulthood, without transitioning. Most of that group turned out to be gay or bisexual. Had they been put on high doses of hormones or even had surgery, they would have done potentially or actually irreversible damage to their bodies.

But today we live in a cultural climate in which to have ordinary questions about one’s sexuality is to be drawn into a powerful cultural movement that is celebrated by the media, and that demonizes anyone who challenges its radical claims. They have torn down the cultural and psychological barriers that in the past would have guided young people through the often difficult psychosexual terrain of adolescence and early adulthood. Now there is no road map. To be lost is to find yourself, they say.
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It is so prevalent, so ubiquitous, that the schools have just given in. The counselors and psychologists have been instructed not to question the veracity of the claim that the individual is other than what they identify themselves as. The counselors are told that they must comfort and “support” the person going through this and be nurturing. If a kid has a sexual confidence problem, they are probably gender ***** according to many counselors or psychologists. I learned that there is a whole network out there actively promoting transitioning and gender fluidity and that many of the psychologists have bought into it so much that they are skipping protocol and advocating for hormone therapy after only 2-3 visits. There are networks out there for these kids to get hormones without a prescription and that these networks are referred to these kids by then psychologists themselves.
 
Wow.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/cease-that-desistance-transgender-cult/
A reader comments on the “Cult Of Transgender” thread:

To those who are skeptical of the authenticity of the published letter and this situation in general, let me assure you that it is real and true. When it comes to teens, transgender is the new anorexia — a life-threatening trend/fad which is endangering vulnerable kids.

I do not have US figures, but in the UK there has been a 930% increase in referrals for children who believe they are transgender — and this increase was seen in only one year. http://www.transgendertrend.com/uk-news-930-rise-in-child-gender-identity-referrals/
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Yes, do visit 4thwavenow.com. It’s like reading samizdat for the sane and ideologically uncowed. There, I found this link to a recent New York magazine piece by Jesse Singal, who writes about overwhelming number of gender dysphoric kids — 80 percent — who eventually resolve their disharmony by identifying with their birth sex. This is called “desistance.”
 
I'm sure this will sound crazy to some here, but I believe there's a huge spiritual war going on and the enemy has been targeting children. The whole transgender thing is very anti-God, and I don't think it will stop there, it's going to keep going... the next thing is transhumanism. (which is already happening.)

I've said it before but I'll say it again... I think it all goes back to the oldest lie ever told. The lie that we can be "gods" apart from the actual God.
 
Nearly everyone can look back in their past at fads and laugh or be embarrassed. "You actually wore that?!" "You did that to your hair on purpose?"

There are going to be a lot of embarrassed kids 10-20 years from now after this fad is over.
 
There wasn't much societal pressure or lobbying concern$ over my classic MN hockey mullet.
Nor were any talking to me when I was three years of age, about my choice of growing into the hockey mullet later.
Maybe there were groups of men that were hoping for, and immediately ready to sponsor my mullet lifestyle choice to take advantage of my mullet fad when I turned "legal" -but I didn't know about them.

I'm hoping for just embarrassment for these kids, but I'm not aware of any sort of "rights businesses" that have quietly gone away. I'm thinking a good number of the grown kids will eventually off themselves either quickly or slowly, and the other great portion will double down on stupid to promote and protect their own, and their parents own, investment in vanity and avoiding uncomfortable parenting moments -like telling your kids NO.

I'm thinking that the kids have pretty much no base, to even return to. :(

Controlling people 101: Destroy another's self worth, and then rebuild it focusing on your goals. But it's all about the kids, and "rights". :rolleyes::mad:

"You are an evolved animal... but you're so much more than that, because you are special and it feels that way, you feel it don't you, feel the special?" :rolleyes:
 
Nearly everyone can look back in their past at fads and laugh or be embarrassed. "You actually wore that?!" "You did that to your hair on purpose?"

There are going to be a lot of embarrassed kids 10-20 years from now after this fad is over.

Only problem is it's a lot easier to cut off your bad hairstyle than it is to put back on a certain part you cut off.
 
Nobody has really talked about the long-term effect of those hormones, either. I'm post menopausal, and my doctor is very careful because of the health risks.

It may be that 20-30 years from now we will see some rare and deadly cancers showing up in kids who were put on hormones to promote transgenderism. Doctors and parents will have a lot to answer for. Been a teenager is bad enough in a healthy environment. With systemic enabling, no wonder kids think being someone different will change everything.
 
I think this has been around for a long time; it's just mostly been suppressed. Now with the internet, such people can first discover that they're not alone, and next they can support each other. I think when this happens with any suppressed group when they finally start to be able to be open in public without immediately being beaten or killed; they can go a little overkill promoting themselves or what they're about.

Second, I think this has to be thoroughly discussed with individuals to really discern they're completely transgender or whether they just lack a rigid sense of gender identity. It might be the latter group that gets depressed or even suicidal after going through the complete transition. Some of these people might have been fine crossdressing or something at some LGBT club on the weekends if they feel this is a side of themselves they have to let out, and then going back their regular boring office selves on Monday morning for the work week. Yes, this seems incredibly weird to many people, but it's possible some people might be satisfied doing this role playing rather than going under the knife making that other role permanent and never being able to go back.
 
Only problem is it's a lot easier to cut off your bad hairstyle than it is to put back on a certain part you cut off.

Cutting something off a young, not fully matured person should be medical malpractice.
 
I'm thinking that the kids have pretty much no base, to even return to. :(

Controlling people 101: Destroy another's self worth, and then rebuild it focusing on your goals. But it's all about the kids, and "rights".

Yes, and that is exactly what they are doing to the country as a whole. But, that is something many here don't see. :(
 
Just wait until healthcare here in the states is finally free, and your kids don't have to ask you for money to get their transgender surgery
 
My mom says the more you talk about that kind of stuff with kids, the more interested in it they become. She says kids generally follow their parents lead in such matters. Her thing was, if you want to discourage behavior, don't give it attention, and she thinks a lot of this is attention seeking behavior. I remember when my brother got his ear pierced, she pretended not to notice it for months. One day my dad (who really didn't notice it, lol) said, what the fuck's in your ear? and gave him that Clint Eastwood look of disgust when he realized his son had an earring. Nothing else was mentioned, there was no drama and the earring phase ended by the end of the year.

I didn't know anyone who questioned their gender identity growing up but I did know a gay boy. We knew he was gay back then and he didn't tell anyone, we just knew. He "came out" to my parents back in the 1990's (he was very close to us growing up and considers them second parents - even took them to the doctor for me a few times before they moved in with us) and was shocked when my mom just said, "I know", and that was it.
 
My mom says the more you talk about that kind of stuff with kids, the more interested in it they become. She says kids generally follow their parents lead in such matters. Her thing was, if you want to discourage behavior, don't give it attention, and she thinks a lot of this is attention seeking behavior. I remember when my brother got his ear pierced, she pretended not to notice it for months. One day my dad (who really didn't notice it, lol) said, what the fuck's in your ear? and gave him that Clint Eastwood look of disgust when he realized his son had an earring. Nothing else was mentioned, there was no drama and the earring phase ended by the end of the year.

I didn't know anyone who questioned their gender identity growing up but I did know a gay boy. We knew he was gay back then and he didn't tell anyone, we just knew. He "came out" to my parents back in the 1990's (he was very close to us growing up and considers them second parents - even took them to the doctor for me a few times before they moved in with us) and was shocked when my mom just said, "I know", and that was it.

Which ear was it?

My older brother got one back in the 90s, in his left ear, but he doesn't have it anymore. My dad was pretty upset, and my mom (his step-mom) had to tell my dad that the left ear earring meant he was straight, and he thought my dad would be cool with it. It was funny because I was a little kid at the time and even I knew that. He's been married and has had a few kids since then.

But ya I agree a lot of these kids are doing the transgender thing because it is new and interesting and rebellious. A good dose of honesty I think would solve a lot of these kids' issues. The South Park episodes about Mr. Garrison becoming transgender are probably a pretty good primer, they focus on the whole genital mutilation issue and how many people are disappointed after the surgery - Stan got surgery to become a tall black basketball player, I think he had Mr. Garrison’s nuts installed in his knees to help make him taller or something... he looked like a tall black basketball player, but didn't function like one, he busted his knees and Mr. Garrison had to live with his surgery.. and Stan's dad became a dolphin because he identified with that, but was not happy with the outcome after his surgery either.
 
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Which ear was it?

My older brother got one back in the 90s, in his left ear, but he doesn't have it anymore. My dad was pretty upset, and my mom (his step-mom) had to tell my dad that the left ear earring meant he was straight, and he thought my dad would be cool with it. He's been married and has had a few kids since then.

But ya I agree a lot of these kids are doing the transgender thing because it is new and interesting and rebellious. A good dose of honesty I think would solve a lot of these kids' issues. The South Park episodes about Mr. Garrison becoming transgender are probably a pretty good primer.

It was his left ear. I remember him telling my dad he wasn't gay because the earring was in his left ear, lol. O_o I love Mrs Garrison's fancy new vagina.:D
 
http://nypost.com/2016/08/27/forcin...m-obamas-new-low-in-the-name-of-trans-rights/

The Department of Health and Human Services recently issued rules telling doctors they can’t decline to perform gender-reassignment surgery on kids if it’s recommended by a “mental health professional.” Refusal could be a career-ender.

How crazy is the rule? Well, for starters, most trans teens identify differently later in life — yet reassignment surgery is often irreversible, and even less-radical procedures can be harmful, as HHS’ own medical experts note.

Not to mention that the Hippocratic Oath (and basic human conscience) enjoins doctors from doing procedures they believe harmful to their patients.

How To Fight The Trans Cult
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/how-to-fight-the-trans-cult/

2) I made a few psychologists’ lives nightmarish for essentially outing them for not following protocol on hormone therapy recommendations.It helped that I come from a family of physicians and as such I had a lot of physician family friends, including a professor of psychiatry. I was aggressive on this end. I would ask these psychologists who advocated hormone therapy if they understood any of the metabolic effects of introducing large amount of testosterone into a still developing female’s body, and if their recommendations took into consideration the long-ranging effects of this sort of thing, and if their malpractice/E&O insurance covered it. I told them if I found out that if (he) in anyway was going to help facilitate my daughter into any of this, that he would be hit with a lawsuit and possible criminal charges. It helped that another parent going through the same thing was a trial attorney.
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I pressured all of the so-called experts, made them try to defend their positions on established fact and gave them fair warning that any parenting interference, any advocacy of drug prescription or surgery that was not backed by sound medical evidence or need would make their lives miserable.

In subsequent correspondence, the reader told me that this trans thing is a much bigger fad than many adults realize. He mentioned family members in a particularly conservative Southern parish who told him it’s all the rage in the local public school.
 
Who cares? Let people be free to live how they want to live.

Free to sexually abuse and mutilate children?

Screw that, anyone involved with any kind of "sex reassignment" procedures on kids needs to be locked in jail for a long time.
 
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Who cares? Let people be free to live how they want to live.

What it were taught in school that considering yourself as the opposite sex that you were born as is ridiculous and moronic instead of celebrating it? Would you be ok with letting them live how they want?
 
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