The creator of the viral pro-Trump act ‘USA Freedom Kids’ now plans to sue the campaign

[CPUd]

Why can't you ever have a serious discussion?

How can you expect to have serious discussion with anyone when you start off like:

CPUd, instead of creating a crybaby thread about the BS sources you like to bring to the table, ...

 

[moostraks]

CPUd, instead of creating a crybaby thread about the BS sources you like to bring to the table, why not have an open and honest discussion about the topic in this thread?

The song is $#@!. You know that. I know that. Everybody knows that. The guy should have been paid no more than $200 to write the song, and maybe $400 to teach the girls to sing and dance and some money for costumes.

This guy is trying to make a bunch of money off the fact that his song got some prime TV coverage and is connected to Trump. Obviously Trump doesn't want to be connected to this song. It worked ok for an event, but he doesn't want it to be the theme song for his Presidency because it sucks.

So the question is, why didn't your magnificent $#@!ing news source go to the Trump campaign and ask them if they had paid the guy? Because you know what? I'll bet they already paid him for his services. They may have had some talk about doing more with the song back before it was performed, but ever since he put that $#@! out they have just ignored him.

I'm guessing the guy doesn't win any lawsuits, this probably won't go anywhere.

Somebody was trying to take advantage of Trump's popularity and get rich, it didn't work, now they are turning against Trump and the media does a hatchet job as usual and the #NeverTrump puntang clan comes out to attack him on this trumped up BS..

Give it a rest.

You should perhaps seek some fresh air and maybe counseling if this has ruffled your knickers that much. Any parent who has had children involved with performing and looks into this story will feel some empathy for the children who were jerked around by the campaign. There is much more info at the link as to just how much the campaign burned these children and it isn't cheap to do the costumes and travel as they were asked to do. I've had my children in dance way back when and the children take the performances seriously. Pulling out from a scheduled deal after they go through the trouble to travel is beyond rude and unacceptable.

 

[moostraks]

I didn't start this thread, and Washington Post is in my proposed list of "not OK" sources.

I'm sorry you caught flak for my thread. He can pound salt on his problem with my sources until Bryan says otherwise to me.

 

[Antischism]

I think it's important to listen to what these individuals who personally dealt with the Trump campaign have to say about their experience. Taken in aggregate, all of these individual stories paint a very bad picture of Trump and how he deals with people.

 

[dannno]

You should perhaps seek some fresh air and maybe counseling if this has ruffled your knickers that much. Any parent who has had children involved with performing and looks into this story will feel some empathy for the children who were jerked around by the campaign. There is much more info at the link as to just how much the campaign burned these children and it isn't cheap to do the costumes and travel as they were asked to do. I've had my children in dance way back when and the children take the performances seriously. Pulling out from a scheduled deal after they go through the trouble to travel is beyond rude and unacceptable.

OMGsss Donald Trump doesn't care about the children!!! lol.... I didn't even consider that the kids were getting paid. I toured internationally as a professional musician as a child and didn't make any money, in fact it cost me money to go on the tour.

Clearly you missed the point of my post, the only thing that ruffles my feathers is people like you and CPUd endlessly making fun of that stupid video to begin with (and rightly so, it was pretty bad), then complaining when the talentless person who created it isn't getting paid as much as they thought they were going to. It's like everything is Donald Trump's fault, let's pile all the shit we can pile on Donald Trump even though 80% of it is complete nonsense.

 

[fcreature]

Clearly you missed the point of my post, the only thing that ruffles my feathers is people like you and CPUd endlessly making fun of that stupid video to begin with (and rightly so, it was pretty bad), then complaining when the talentless person who created it isn't getting paid as much as they thought they were going to. It's like everything is Donald Trump's fault, let's pile all the $#@! we can pile on Donald Trump even though 80% of it is complete nonsense.

FYI you can dislike a performance while simultaneously be concerned about the performers contract (verbal or otherwise) being broken. Or do you disagree?

Trump has a pattern with this type of behavior. If that isn't a problem for you, then so be it.

Most Libertarians I know support contracts, property rights, etc. You know, capitalism and all.

"Rule of Law" candidate, they say.

 

[moostraks]

OMGsss Donald Trump doesn't care about the children!!! lol.... I didn't even consider that the kids were getting paid. I toured internationally as a professional musician as a child and didn't make any money, in fact it cost me money to go on the tour.

Clearly you missed the point of my post, the only thing that ruffles my feathers is people like you and CPUd endlessly making fun of that stupid video to begin with (and rightly so, it was pretty bad), then complaining when the talentless person who created it isn't getting paid as much as they thought they were going to. It's like everything is Donald Trump's fault, let's pile all the $#@! we can pile on Donald Trump even though 80% of it is complete nonsense.

OMGsss NO Trump doesn't give a crap about anyone other than Trump and he makes that repeatedly clear. That you jumped straight to money for the children is bizarre. The children get amped up for the performance. That is what I meant about pulling this crap after setting them up to travel all the way to a performance and then bench them. He's a schmuck.

The video was stupid, but the children are being manipulated by someone who has made a pattern of stiffing people and shows his regard for children as well. I"d be pissed if I was a parent that had to pay for what goes into these traveling performances and the venue canceled the performance last minute. It ain't cheap AND you are dealing with disappointed children who expected to perform. Add in he thinks he will get women undecideds playing this type of crap with his own supporters. GL with that one.

Then juxtapose this with what his rivals could turn this into against him. DNC made the appeal last night with Anastasia Somoza and Michelle Obama's speeches, and they are playing hard for the mom vote. SO...you just keep on posting Molyneux videos and whining about sources.

Don't forget: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-the-outcome-of-the-2016-election-poll-finds

 

[goldwater's ghost]

IT'S OK. Trump will get Putin to pay the bill

 

[Origanalist]

This is all just a severe blow to the cause of liberty. I can see why everybody is upset.

 

[angelatc]

FFS - did nobody read the story?

Popick said that the Trump campaign did not follow through with any of the promises it had made verbally. The final straw came after Popick sent an email to the Trump campaign “demanding” that the band be allowed to perform at the convention. The girls did not perform.

 

[dannno]

FFS - did nobody read the story?

The facts aren't important, only being anti-Trump constantly even when he decides what appetizer to order is important.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Or we can have open and honest discussions about legitimate issues.

Hey, that's a good idea, dannno. If you see any threads like that, will you let me know about them? Honest discussions about legitimate issues are some of my favorite things. They're few and far between when peeps is just trying to hurry up and get elected, though.

 

[moostraks]

FFS - did nobody read the story?

It started in Pensacola. When Popick first reached out to the Trump campaign about performing, he spoke with various people including former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski. His understanding from the campaign was that the Kids would make two appearances in Florida, where Popick lives. The first event didn't come to fruition, and Popick says he asked for $2,500 in payment for the second performance, in Pensacola. The campaign made a counter-offer: How about a table where the group could presell albums? Popick took the deal.

When they arrived at the venue, though, there was no table, Popick says. The result was "complete chaos," he said. "They clearly had made no provisions for that."

Popick, believing that he was owed some alternate compensation, tried to contact the campaign afterward, without luck. In addition to costs spent on promotional materials for the nonexistent table, Popick says, he also lost several promotional opportunities due to confusion over his relationship with the campaign.

When Trump made the sudden decision to skip the January Fox News debate and instead hold an event for veterans, a representative of the campaign called Popick to see if the Freedom Kids might perform. The call came the day before the event, Popick says, which was being held in Des Moines at 6:30 p.m. With the promise that the exposure from the event would be "huge," Popick readily agreed, and the kids and their parents packed up for a direct flight to Chicago and a long drive to Iowa.

It wasn't to be. When the plane landed, Popick had a message from the campaign staffer indicating that there was a change of plan. The campaign invited the performers to attend the rally, which they did, in their outfits. The campaign asked Popick not to talk to the media, he says, but then gave them seats within arm's length of the press. "They just were constantly coming over, wanting pictures," Popick said of the news media. "They wanted to take pictures, they wanted to ask questions — and I had to be a real jerk." The cost of the flights, rental car and hotel were all absorbed by Popick.

After that, he kept reaching out "again and again and again and again," without luck. He was passed around between staffers; calls went unreturned even after calls were promised. Emails Popick sent to the campaign (which he shared with The Post) detail the interaction between himself and the campaign and his ultimate request. "We are now asking and DEMANDING for what has been promised to us and is now long-overdue (and has been rightly earned by us); that is, a performance at the convention," an email dated July 9 reads. "Or, be made whole."

This is what proceeded that demand. Yes, I read the whole thing. Which is why my strongest criticism is the traveling and last minute canceling. If the campaign did not want them they should have shut them down clearly and concisely, not telling them to fly across the country at their own expense and then bench them.

Yep, these supporters were fools to trust Trump on verbal promises. He is also one who doesn't believe even written promises necessarily apply to him. He is a weasel. Perhaps the supporters should take the refusal to honor verbal promises into consideration when analyzing what he will do in the future with all that they are banking on getting in return for their support of this candidate.

 

[angelatc]

This is what proceeded that demand. Yes, I read the whole thing. Which is why my strongest criticism is the traveling and last minute canceling. If the campaign did not want them they should have shut them down clearly and concisely, not telling them to fly across the country at their own expense and then bench them.

Yep, these supporters were fools to trust Trump on verbal promises. He is also one who doesn't believe even written promises necessarily apply to him. He is a weasel. Perhaps the supporters should take the refusal to honor verbal promises into consideration when analyzing what he will do in the future with all that they are banking on getting in return for their support of this candidate.

Nowhere in the article did it say that Trump promised anything. Reading it, the campaign never offered to pay them for anything - just allow them to set up a table and sell merchandise. They, however, neglected to bring the table.

It sounds to me like the guy is a lousy businessman as well as a jerk. Life is a tough lesson. Just another case of Trump derangement syndrome. That thing that Sarah Palin does to drive some people insane? Trump has that same effect on other people, it seems.

 

[moostraks]

Nowhere in the article did it say that Trump promised anything. Reading it, the campaign never offered to pay them for anything - just allow them to set up a table and sell merchandise. They, however, neglected to bring the table.

It sounds to me like the guy is a lousy businessman as well as a jerk. Life is a tough lesson. Just another case of Trump derangement syndrome. That thing that Sarah Palin does to drive some people insane? Trump has that same effect on other people, it seems.

So the campaign does not represent the candidate and Trump isn't also notorious for micromanagement? Yes, I'm sure the purchase of the table was completely out of the question at last minute. Not like anyone who has ever been a dance mom knows anything about having to do such last minute scrambles.

The fellow likely learned a lesson on con men and their supporting staff. That Trump derangement sure is a prickly illness driving folks to frothy belligerence when faced with any negative commentary about the strongman they need to be their voice for them. Tsk tsk...

 

[CPUd]