The "Cincinnati Brawl"

[Brian4Liberty]

I had to go back and watch again and the only thing my source got wrong is saying the woman is from Russia. (Note I didn't say that she was. I'm more focused on the Russian MAN who started the fight). That said, she's painting FALSE NARRATIVE of how the fight started. The longer video shows the Russian man laid hands on someone else FIRST. Also the video shows a woman hitting the white woman and she says she was hit by a man. Maybe she was hit more than once or maybe she was confused. The news report got the fact that she was "from Russia" and "returned to Russia" wrong, but video and the statement by the Russian male "victim" in court support the fact that he laid hands first.

The original very clearly showed that the white woman was trying to break up the fight, and a black woman ran over and attacked her, hitting her in the face. While the white woman was distracted by this black woman, a black male snuck up on the other side and gave the woman a blindsided full blown haymaker punch to the face which knocked her out cold.

The original uncensored video showed the woman on the ground, eyes open, not moving, with no one home. She literally looked dead.

The video with the Russian male giving the other man a slap is not "the full incident". Obviously, the confrontation was already going on, and it does not show what happened between the guys saying "let's mess with those Russians", and where that video started. Probably selective editing, unless that is exactly where the person started taking video.

It's also worth noting the man who appears to be "slapped" is not the person who first punches the Russian guy. The Russian gets cold cocked from behind by another member of the mob (which does not knock him out).

 

[Occam's Banana]

I had to go back and watch again [...]

The original very clearly showed [...]

Based on what I've seen so far (and subject to change upon receipt of new information), I pretty much agree with everything AJW has to say about the matter.

See the quoted video (especially @ 11:15 to 14:55, and 16:15 to 17:40):

Cincinnati Politician Says Whites Deserved Violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jalw5ScsdS8
{Actual Justice Warrior | 31 July 2025}

In this video, I discuss the latest updates & moves to cover up the black mob attack on white people in downtown Cincinnati.

Sources:

Support Decoy Voice: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqN2iOW580CFSohYzruos2A
My Previous Video On This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZoSkureS3s [see this post - OB]
Local News Segment On Businesses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHxpuQ8ulrg
Video Of Before & After Slap: https://x.com/TheRapStash/status/1950814188856877183
Large Portion Of Fight: https://x.com/sizzle_sarah/status/1949803925042770090
Another Flight: https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1949614055624245396
​

 

[jmdrake]

The original very clearly showed that the white woman was trying to break up the fight, and a black woman ran over and attacked her, hitting her in the face. While the white woman was distracted by this black woman, a black male snuck up on the other side and gave the woman a blindsided full blown haymaker punch to the face which knocked her out cold.

That's a bit of a dishonest strawman on your part. I already said the black woman who hit the white woman was wrong. But the white Russian man started the fight.

 

[jmdrake]

Based on what I've seen so far (and subject to change upon receipt of new information), I pretty much agree with everything AJW has to say about the matter.

See the quoted video (especially @ 11:15 to 14:55, and 16:15 to 17:40):

See my last response to Bryan. I never argued that what happened to the woman was okay. I'm saying the white Russian tourist started the fight.

 

[Occam's Banana]

See my last response to Bryan. I never argued that what happened to the woman was okay.

I didn't say you did.

I'm saying the white Russian tourist started the fight.

If you are referring to the "slap", that was not the start of the altercation, as AJW pointed out in the sections of his video I gave timestamps for.

As far as I know at the moment, there is no video of the initial physical contact, so we don't know who started it.

The following is from the sources listed by AJW for his video. The two men are already in some kind of shoving/pushing match when the video starts.

 

[jmdrake]

I didn't say you did.



If you are referring to the "slap", that was not the start of the altercation, as AJW pointed out in the sections of his video I gave timestamps for.

As far as I know at the moment, there is no video of the initial physical contact, so we don't know who started it.

The following is from the sources listed by AJW for his video. The two men are already in some kind of shoving/pushing match when the video starts.

I just looked at your video. The guy in the red shirt, in YOUR video, wasn't being aggressive until he got slapped. The guy in the black shirt was squaring up against the Russian I can't say who started what there. But the guy in the red shirt wasn't being aggressive at all. So I'm confused as to what you think that proves or disproves.

Edit: To give your argument the full benefit of the doubt I went back at looked one more time. At the start the guy in the red shirt (and I'm assuming it's the same guy as there seems to be two guys in red shirts but different colored shorts) is "locked up" with the Russian. Then a black guy in a white shirt and a white guy in a black shirt get them separated. A black guy in a black shirt "squares up" for a little bit than backs down. All is calm until the Russia slaps red shirt guy in the face. You aren't supposed to (legally) slap someone after somebody else has broken up an altercation just because you want to get one last lick in. The Russian, based on your video, should be charged.

 

[CaptUSA]

I just looked at your video. The guy in the red shirt, in YOUR video, wasn't being aggressive until he got slapped. The guy in the black shirt was squaring up against the Russian I can't say who started what there. But the guy in the red shirt wasn't being aggressive at all. So I'm confused as to what you think that proves or disproves.

?? Just looking at that video, the guy in the red shirt throwing a punch was the very first aggressive action we see. Of course, we don't see what happened prior to that.

In any case, we also see lots of people trying to de-escalate the situation. If only we had some of those people in here.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I just looked at your video. The guy in the red shirt, in YOUR video, wasn't being aggressive until he got slapped. The guy in the black shirt was squaring up against the Russian I can't say who started what there. But the guy in the red shirt wasn't being aggressive at all.

The video starts just as Red Shirt steps to and takes a swing at Russian Guy. The two are already in an altercation at that point. The slap doesn't happen until 45 seconds later, after a few people try to break things up.

So I'm confused as to what you think that proves or disproves.

The video doesn't prove anything - except that we don't know who "started it".

 

[TheTexan]

As far as I can tell the initial fight was between two consenting adults.

Slaps are basically an invitation to fight, or in this case, to continue a fight, and have been since the beginning of mankind.

Voluntary fights between men have throughout human history been normal male behavior between consenting male adults.

It's only in the modern era that this kind of thing has been criminalized. (and it shouldn't be.)

What isn't usually considered socially acceptable behavior, is sucker punching people from behind, and stomping them into the ground after they're already down.

Only blacks consider that socially acceptable.

 

[jmdrake]

?? Just looking at that video, the guy in the red shirt throwing a punch was the very first aggressive action we see. Of course, we don't see what happened prior to that.

In any case, we also see lots of people trying to de-escalate the situation. If only we had some of those people in here.

You missed what I added.

To give your argument the full benefit of the doubt I went back at looked one more time. At the start the guy in the red shirt (and I'm assuming it's the same guy as there seems to be two guys in red shirts but different colored shorts) is "locked up" with the Russian. Then a black guy in a white shirt and a white guy in a black shirt get them separated. A black guy in a black shirt "squares up" for a little bit than backs down. All is calm until the Russia slaps red shirt guy in the face. You aren't supposed to (legally) slap someone after somebody else has broken up an altercation just because you want to get one last lick in. The Russian, based on your video, should be charged.

And you're right and wrong at the same time. People tried to de-escalate and the Russian RE-escalated. We can't see what happened before the initial lock up/punch whatever. And the Russian guy is off screen. I considered what you're calling a punch a grab or a shove because of how long he left it out there. It could have been a punch but if it was it was super sloppy. None of these people can actually fight.

 

[jmdrake]

As far as I can tell the initial fight was between two consenting adults.

Slaps are basically an invitation to fight, or in this case, to continue a fight, and have been since the beginning of mankind.

Voluntary fights between men have throughout human history been normal male behavior between consenting male adults.

It's only in the modern era that this kind of thing has been criminalized. (and it shouldn't be.)

What isn't usually considered socially acceptable behavior, is sucker punching people from behind, and stomping them into the ground after they're already down.

Only blacks consider that socially acceptable.

Teen called racial slur and attacked on NYC subway, police say

A 14-year-old has been arrested on charges of aggravated harassment, assault, harassment, and menacing.

www.nbcnews.com

I didn't see Elon Musk posting about ^that story.

And all the way from mother Russia.

Black woman in Russia beaten by racist neighbors

A Black woman who moved to Russia to escape "discrimination" revealed the entire plan backfired on her. She claims she was attacked by racist neighbors in Moscow.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[jmdrake]

The video starts just as Red Shirt steps to and takes a swing at Russian Guy. The two are already in an altercation at that point. The slap doesn't happen until 45 seconds later, after a few people try to break things up.



The video doesn't prove anything - except that we don't know who "started it".

Punch? Push? Grab? Hard to tell since the Russian is off screen. What isn't hard to tell is that there was a "ceasefire" prior to the re-escalation. (Putting it into geopolitical terms).

 

[Occam's Banana]

As far as I can tell the initial fight was between two consenting adults.

Slaps are basically an invitation to fight, or in this case, to continue a fight, and have been since the beginning of mankind.

Voluntary fights between men have throughout human history been normal male behavior between consenting male adults.

It's only in the modern era that this kind of thing has been criminalized. (and it shouldn't be.)

 

[Occam's Banana]

Punch? Push? Grab? Hard to tell since the Russian is off screen. What isn't hard to tell is that there was a "ceasefire" prior to the re-escalation. (Putting it into geopolitical terms).

They were still jawing at each other, and Red Shirt advanced on Russian Guy again after the "ceasefire" (that's why Russian Guy merely had to reach out in order to slap him, after all [1]). However, if you insist on splitting that hair, then sure, okay - I would not have any especially strong objections to Russian Guy catching a simple misdemeanor battery charge. [2]

But the sucker punchers and foot stompers should get felony aggravated assault. They - along with all the hooting animals egging them on - are the only reason we're even aware of and talking about this incident in the first place.

No one really gives a rat's ass about a couple of drunk assholes going at it, or which asshole started it (or "restarted" it, if you insist). Where I come from, we call that "just another Saturday night".



[1] And anyway, the slap was more insult than injury. Back in the Old Countries (including Russia ?) they used to do that kind of thing with a pair of gloves applied rapidly to each cheek, one after the other, followed by a demand for "satisfaction" and a challenge to meet at an appointed place and time, each man to be accompanied by his chosen "second".

[2] Frankly, though, I don't think the usual rules should apply in cases of "mutual combat", where the involved persons are willing participants. The fighters in formal boxing matches don't get charged with things like battery for that very reason, for example. In the case of this particular "informal match", charges of "disturbing the peace" or "disorderly conduct" (for both Red Shirt and Russian Guy) would be much more appropriate - and even then, that's only because they were being disruptive in a public venue not designated for the purpose.

 

[TheTexan]

Teen called racial slur and attacked on NYC subway, police say

A 14-year-old has been arrested on charges of aggravated harassment, assault, harassment, and menacing.

www.nbcnews.com

I didn't see Elon Musk posting about ^that story.

All I see in the video for that is colored people beating up another colored person. One dude is "white passing" but he looks more native american or asian than white to me.

And all the way from mother Russia.

Black woman in Russia beaten by racist neighbors

A Black woman who moved to Russia to escape "discrimination" revealed the entire plan backfired on her. She claims she was attacked by racist neighbors in Moscow.

www.fox5ny.com

Without video of the attack I can make no comment. She was probably being uppity and deserved it

 

[Anti Federalist]

It all could have been avoided if they followed Scott Adams advice.

 

[RJB]

I could care less about a fight between drunks, but I'm with TheTexan and OB, sucker punching a chick and head stomping someone on the ground is a bit much.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

That's a bit of a dishonest strawman on your part. I already said the black woman who hit the white woman was wrong. But the white Russian man started the fight.

Nothing I said was inaccurate according to the video. You said she was hit by a black woman as if that was the only blow. You are dishonest, as usual.

 

[jmdrake]

Nothing I said was inaccurate according to the video. You said she was hit by a black woman as if that was the only blow. You are dishonest, as usual.

Good for you. You win a round in the great RPF race word. I'm sure @Anti Federalist will be proud. At the end of the day the fight was over before the Russian restarted it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

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