The CFR is reading up on Ron Paul

Fox McCloud said:
on the CFR website, it says that Ron voted for the "New Direction for Energy Independence, National Security, and Consumer Protection Act"

I looked it up (because the bill isn't very Libertarian), and Paul didn't vote on either of the bills with that name; he simply wasn't present.

Why are they saying this? Are they subtly trying to ruin Ron Paul's Libertarian record, or did they make an honest mistake?
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I suspect it's an honest mistake. If this is the page you were looking at, they aren't even thinking of him as a libertarian. They're totally looking at him from the perspective of, how well does he mesh with the globalist agenda. Actually, saying that he voted for that bill makes him look more global-friendly than he really is.
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html
 
If I were a rich man...

Y'know, if I were one of the hyper-rich global elite, I might just get behind somebody like Doctor Paul...

After all, he'd be able do a few things that would help the United States get back on its feet. With my Congress there to fight him he won't be able to do enough to really hurt me. Him winning would pacify a lot of the malcontents and mollify most of those noisy conspiracy nuts!

Then, once he'd taken all that heat and got the US economy going again and the sheep all quieted down, I could start maneuvering my people back into power just in time to bring in the next harvest.

After all, sheep have to graze a while before you can sheer 'em again!

:D

Mike D.
 
Nate said:
Because it gives a lengthy and detailed description of us "Paulistas" and the revolutionary movement that Dr Paul has started. They have nothing to fear from a lone "nut" like Dr Paul but they do have to fear the revolution and the political organization we could morph into. The establishments biggest nightmare is a group of loud, angry, informed and highly educated anti-statists who cannot be bought with their paper money nor be brainwashed by their MSM propaganda. We are offically a threat.
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You are correct.

Lets organize a peace festival on July 4th:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1014183#post1014183
 
Corydoras said:
I suspect it's an honest mistake. If this is the page you were looking at, they aren't even thinking of him as a libertarian. They're totally looking at him from the perspective of, how well does he mesh with the globalist agenda. Actually, saying that he voted for that bill makes him look more global-friendly than he really is.
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html
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I was a bit concerned when I read that, but, I started looking all over the net...ANY time it's mentioned he voted for that, the source/link was the CFR website...so everything points back towards them and the possibility of their mistake.

hmmm, maybe I should e-mail them and let them know that he really didn't vote for it.
 
you got to understand how those think tanks work.
they play "research facility" and "honest discussion about polilcy" when in public but really are lobbying organizations.
 
stefans said:
you got to understand how those think tanks work.
they play "research facility" and "honest discussion about polilcy" when in public but really are lobbying organizations.
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And in this case, intelligence scout for the establishment. CFR has inadvertantly outed and confirmed Reason as being simply a libertarian front for their operations.
 
lucius said:
Good point, we will see a 'blond haired, blue eyed al Qaeda' talking point eventually.
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They are last weeks Al Qaeda, this weeks Al Qaeda are 72 year old, libertarian minded, OBY/GN's, who are republican congressmen and are running for President.
 
Debt Free People Scare The Bankers

Nate said:
Because it gives a lengthy and detailed description of us "Paulistas" and the revolutionary movement that Dr Paul has started. They have nothing to fear from a lone "nut" like Dr Paul but they do have to fear the revolution and the political organization we could morph into. The establishments biggest nightmare is a group of loud, angry, informed and highly educated anti-statists who cannot be bought with their paper money nor be brainwashed by their MSM propaganda. We are offically a threat.
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This is how the rEVOLUtion grows....

Never go back to sleep again. Abandon the MSM, abandon unprincipled politicians, and abandon the consumer-driven mindset that leads to debt.

The very very worst thing we in the rEVOLution could do to damage the "system", besides changing the political landscape, is to stop borrowing money. From anyone, at any interest rate, for anything, forever.

Cut your lifestyle, work extra jobs, and pay off your all your debt, even your mortgage, as soon as you possibly can. Keep an emergency fund for when bad things happen so you won't have to borrow money to cover shortfalls. Then save money to buy things you need or want in cash. Invest with money you have saved, not with debt. Hold gold and silver for a reserve.

We can't stop using the Federal Reserve Notes without breaking the law, but there is no law that says you have to go into, or stay in, debt.
 
The CFR's mistakes on Paul's voting record may be honest, but this could also be the start of a campaign to discredit Paul by subtly insinuating that he's part of their globalist agenda. There's probably nothing they could do that would be more harmful to our movement than spreading mistrust. In another thread, one poster played out his fears that Ron Paul is somehow part of it all and merely playing the role of "truth-teller," a false messiah like a real-life Emmanuel Goldstein. If they can convince enough people that supporting Paul (and his ideals) only plays into their hand, they could do some definite damage.

The CFR has apparently been studying Ron Paul's support base very intently since this movement starting gaining ground a year ago, and they clearly took to heart the words, "Know thine enemy." The biggest question is...why did they publicly post these articles on the website? To anyone unfamiliar with them, the obvious answer is, "Oh, because Ron Paul is interesting and they thought people might want to read about the movement he's at the center of, duh!" However, unless we're simply gravely mistaken about the nature of the CFR (doubtful), we know better, and we understand that the agenda driving the CFR is the antithesis of Ron Paul's message of national sovereignty, self-identification, and liberty.

So...is this somehow a threat of the "We're watching you!" persuasion? Maybe...they know it won't really stop anyone, but perhaps the idea is to convince us to self-censor a bit more and go a bit more underground for our own privacy.

Or, perhaps it is meant to lure misguided globalist thinkers (students, professors, etc. - anyone interested in the CFR or even members below the highest levels) into learning about Ron Paul and our movement through a CFR-filtered lens. Therefore, the first article would be deceptively neutral to avoid suspicion and generate a calm trust in their information. In that case, the negative propaganda will not start until readers have been taken hook, line, and sinker.

Furthermore, that brings me to another likely possibility: They know that the more conspiracy-minded of us have outright demonized them (and doing so has a lot of merit ;)), and the rest of us at the very least have a strong disagreement with and mistrust of their apparent agenda. They've seen our fervor in exposing the obvious bias against Ron Paul in the media. Perhaps by printing such an apparently neutral article about Ron Paul, they hope to avoid such scrutiny? Maybe they're hoping that by appearing as if they are not our ideological archenemy, we will let our guard down? The more I think about it, this seems like the most likely possibility. Ron Paul has become well-known enough now that openly smearing him would be a huge red flag for not only diehard supporters but even those just now becoming acquainted with his message. By laying low and feigning neutrality (or even appearing helpful by giving Ron Paul "free press" on their website), the head honchos at the CFR can avoid showing their hand or their true colors to those not yet convinced that their aims are in direct opposition to ours. Furthermore, it generates enough plausible deniability that people will look critically upon those who outright proclaim that the CFR agenda is evil.

So, in short: I think this is mostly the CFR top brass doing damage control and trying not to look like the bad guys. ;)
 
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Mini-Me said:
Or, perhaps it is meant to lure misguided globalist thinkers (students, professors, etc. - anyone interested in the CFR or even members below the highest levels) into learning about Ron Paul and our movement through a CFR-filtered lens. Therefore, the first article would be deceptively neutral to avoid suspicion and generate a calm trust in their information. In that case, the negative propaganda will not start until readers have been taken hook, line, and sinker.


So, in short: I think this is mostly the CFR top brass doing damage control and trying not to look like the bad guys. ;)
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Excellent analysis. I especially like these two points.
 
There's a good podcast about gold money versus fed notes and euros on the left of that cfr page.
 
Maybe the CFR likes RP's free trade, no war policy. This article, no matter how much you mistrust CFR, is clearly fair and nuetral.
 
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