The case for Randy Brogdon

What was Brogdon polling at before. Was there many polls in the time since he switched to the Senate race?
 
These polling numbers probably reflect him not really actively campaigning on a statewide basis yet. Hopefully that will change, and soon.

edit: This is the first poll I've seen that has included Brogdon.
 
The endorsement train better get rolling for Brogdon. The Tea Party groups can have a strong influence in this state.
 
Brian4Liberty said:
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Brogdon doesn't have a shot. He is polling under 10% in all polling, and TW Shannon has sucked up all of the support from outside conservative groups. Brogdon should be dropping out and waiting for a better opportunity.
 
Regarding Brogdon's low polling numbers:

http://m.krmg.com/news/news/local/dark-horse-who-could-force-run-oklahoma-us-senate-/nf9JK/

He argues that his supporters aren't the type who generally respond to pollsters, and points out that his poll number when he ran for governor (2010) were around 14 percent, but when the ballots were counted, he got nearly 40 percent.
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Please do not write Brogdon's campaign off yet!

In another thread, someone had asked what was wrong with shannon, remarking that he seemed to have a good record. I had said that it was what wasn't in his record that was important, and that his behind the scenes actions make him no true friend of liberty. In this interview, Brogdon calls shannon out on this quite nicely, and I'm sure he's done this in other media appearances as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3mpiVjevVA

 
How much will it hurt Brogdon if he makes Shannon go to a runoff? He can use it as a platform for a House run. Is the OK Governor term limited or likely to retire in 2018?
 
RandallFan said:
How much will it hurt Brogdon if he makes Shannon go to a runoff? He can use it as a platform for a House run. Is the OK Governor term limited or likely to retire in 2018?
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Forcing a runoff wouldn't hurt Brogdon at all, even if he isn't part of it. You will not see a House run from Brogdon or anyone else anytime soon, that's Jim Bridenstine's district (Tulsa area), and Bridenstine is probably the most popular politician in the state (and rightly so). No way will anyone run against Bridenstine, unless it's some peter king or jeff cherry type of neocon trying to run a pointless educational campaign. All state-level offices are term limited in OK (12 years), including the Governor. Hopefully Dax can send her into retirement this year, I don't know anyone here who wants her around until 2018 or 2022. Would you like to see a Ron Paul supporter as a Governor? If so, Dax could really use the donations - see thread here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ates!-Still-time-to-donate!-(June-24-primary)
 
Both Shannon and Lankford sure are getting the cash from somewhere. It's disgusting.

Yeah, Brogdon isn't going to try to primary Bridenstine. But Brogdon actually hails from Owasso, not Tulsa, and that makes it more than possible for him to mount a serious effort at District Two rather than Bridenstine's District One.

I think Mullin's television commercials for the family plumbing business have affected the older folk as being in poor taste. He could be vulnerable.
 
I don't know what Brogdon was thinking. He said he was going to talk to the big Tea Party organizations (Club for Growth, freedomWorks, Senate Conservatives Fund, etc.) to see if he had the support he needed to win. Either he decided to run without their support, which would be foolish, or they lied to him, which I doubt.
 
MichaelDavis said:
I don't know what Brogdon was thinking. He said he was going to talk to the big Tea Party organizations (Club for Growth, freedomWorks, Senate Conservatives Fund, etc.) to see if he had the support he needed to win. Either he decided to run without their support, which would be foolish, or they lied to him, which I doubt.
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We'll never know. There was an additional factor at play here which you don't seem to have considered. This election has been a chinese fire drill, and took a long time to settle down. All potential Liberty Candidates were waiting to see if Bridenstine would run for the Senate seat. Then there was the question of who would be willing to live in DC. All that was surely worked out behind the scenes, and took some time to figure out. My speculation is by the time everything was figured out and Brogdon switched races, shannon had already grabbed the attention of the organizations you mentioned. At that point nothing was certain, and the answer to Brogdon was probably "we'll see", "yes it's possible", etc. I think shannon simply got their ear first, during the chinese fire drill. Since no one actually had said "no, we're going to back shannon", he went for it, knowing that he at least had a solid base of support who is smart enough to see through both shannon and wankford. The question now is, can that solid base of support be expanded enough in time to get into a runoff? It's certainly possible, and believe me, we're trying! If Brogdon can make it into a runoff, he stands a good chance of picking up the supporters of the candidate that got cut out, and winning. Go back to the article I quoted in a post above about how he vastly overperformed his poll numbers in 2010. I don't think it will be any different this time either. If you really feel that this election is a lost cause, then there are certainly plenty of other excellent Liberty Candidates here in OK that could really use your donation!
 
Although it's a couple months old, here's an article I hadn't seen yet that contains some good quotes:
http://www.edmondsun.com/business/x1316964551/Brogdon-says-he-stands-for-liberty
“First thing I’m going to do is say, ‘I’m not voting for Mitch McConnell. One of you guys, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, run against him.’”
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“Most of us remember the day when you could go to the airport and make a mad dash to get on the plane a half-hour before it takes off,” Brogdon said.

He said today that is impossible as people are asked to remove their shoes and belts and have their wives and daughters “manhandled” by government security agents.

“I remember a time when we didn’t have to worry about the federal government listening in to our phone conversations and reading our emails,” Brogdon said. “Those days are over in America.”
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Video is up for last night's debate (not sure if embedding the video will work from this site)
http://www.citylinktv.com/archive/gop-u-s-senate-debate-durant-ok-6-04-14/
[video]http://www.citylinktv.com/archive/gop-u-s-senate-debate-durant-ok-6-04-14/[/video]

In case anyone missed it, the video from a previous debate is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWmNQqyCblE


Randy Brogdon will be appearing in another debate on Friday, no word yet on a stream.
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/06/02/6450817/gop-debates-set-for-oklas-us-senate.html
Candidates for Oklahoma's open U.S. Senate seat will participate in a series of debates across the state beginning this week in Durant.

The Oklahoma Republican Party has confirmed the attendees for the forums Wednesday in Durant, Friday in Lawton, and June 20 in Enid.
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Five of the candidates will appear at the Durant and Lawton forums, while six will participate in the Enid forum.
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edit: I guess the video for the most recent debate didn't embed, so you'll have to click to view it.
 
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