The Campaign HQ is completely incompetent. Could have brought in anti-Iraq voters...

Or call it fraud :D

Well, I wouldn't call it fraud but I do call it stupidity and HQ incompetence. I'm not totally disappointed and cynical, but why couldn't we get at least 3rd in both Iowa and NH? It could have easily been done and we would have gotten tons of media coverage for that fact alone. Instead, Ron Paul is still too obscure even for you likely primary and caucus goer. Not good.
 
Or call it fraud :D

Well, I wouldn't call it fraud but I do call it stupidity and HQ incompetence. I'm not totally disappointed and cynical, but why couldn't we get at least 3rd in both Iowa and NH? It could have easily been done and we would have gotten tons of media coverage for that fact alone. Instead, Ron Paul is still too obscure even for you likely primary and caucus goer. Not good.
I don't get why ANTI-IRAQ war ads were not run. The campaign HQ is taking a loaded pistol, and shooting themselves in the foot. Only they are doing over and over again. I bet half of them still are wearing diapers.
 
With the anti war vote plus the marijuana vote, California should be in the bag--easy.:D
 
The NH Republican and independents have spoken. What they want is 4 more years of Bush politics in the White House, this includes an ever widening war in the Middle East, gigantic deficit spending, and a loss in their personal liberties.

It's a bitter pill to swallow. Unfortunately, it's the truth
 
The NH Republican and independents have spoken. What they want is 4 more years of Bush politics in the White House, this includes an ever widening war in the Middle East, gigantic deficit spending, and a loss in their personal liberties.

It's a bitter pill to swallow. Unfortunately, it's the truth

44% of people against the war voted for McCain. The only thing they have stated is how fucking ignorant they are of the issues.
 
If you think the campaign is so horrible, then DO WHAT NEEDS to get done YOURSELF! That's why they call us "grassroots". Dr. Paul is running his ass off all over the country, travel expenses are freaking ridiculous, he doesn't have a Jillion Dollars to spend on the top dogs, SO DO SOMETHING and QUIT WHINING!
 
I don't believe it. When I talk to others about Ron Paul, I often need to explain just who he is and what he stands for. The policy wonks know about Ron Paul, but many voters do not. However, of those I have spoken to about him, often the response is positive. I am not willing to give up on this country and the people who live in it! At least provide a message and an alternative for people to consider!
 
well i don't have the money to run a couple anti-iraq commercials or a time machine to run them A WEEK AGO WHEN THEY NEEDED TO RUN. SO I GUESS I CAN'T DO IT CAN I?
 
So it's confirmed: U.S population is schizophrenic. 70% wanted an end to war and voted over-whelmingly for 100 years war instead. Lawdy, Lawdy, Lawdy.

Shopping list for tomorrow:

100 sacks of rice
100 sacks of beans
100 packets of matches
two can-openers in case i lose one
Seeds (organic - the ones undoctored by greedy corporatations)
a cow and a bull
a hen and a rooster
Butter churn.
Iodine
One spade for digging bunker
cement mix
Horse.
 
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Paul shouldn't have talked about his monetary policy so much. People got scared, they thought he was going to take away their social security pensions and any kind of welfare relief. How many people are dependent on some kind of government assistance? New Hampshire isn't a wealthy state. You're one check away from being dependent on welfare if you lose your job. NH is a depressed economy - many factories shut down in the 90s, it turned some places into ghost towns. Paul's talk about gold sounds like it's for wealthy people. I'm not rich, I'm not going to invest the little money I have in gold. He doesn't really sound like he has a plan. Just get rid of this and that and there will be miracles!!!!! Compared to facing starvation and homelessness because of losing your job, the Iraq war sounds like a very distant 2nd concern.

And the way he presents his libertarian message is all wrong - it puts people off. Get rid of the Dept of Education and the CIA and the FBI etc .. it's too much at once. People are so used to living with these things -- too much change is frightening.

Now that I think about it, it's no wonder it's "the young people" who have been his strongest followers - his message is very idealistic, when you're middle aged and have dependents, you want security more than anything - not stepping into completely unknown territory. Plus the recession is coming on us - free enterprise doesn't sound appealing during hard times. Paul should have tailored his message better.

He's had lots of opportunities to sell his message, but he missed most of them unfortunately.

I disagree.

Ron is far too broad in his fiscal message. He NEVER explains how eliminating the IRS is FEASIBLE! That is the problem with many voters..they say "Hah ha...that would be great..but never happen." He needs to EXPLAIN his positions better.

I'm 34..I feel middle aged already. I have saved squat because I've been hustling and trying to find steady work. I'm not idealistic...I fully realize what WE want won't happen for at least ten or fifteen years.
 
National Campaign HQ failed to identify the anti-war voters in the GOP, failed to target them, and then failed to turn them out to vote for Ron Paul. Plain and simple. If anti-war voters appear ignorant for voting for 100 Year War McCain, it is only because of the foregoing failure on National Campaign HQ's part.
 
but instead...McCain got them.

That's right people, McCain.

44% of the people that strongly disagree with the war in Iraq voted McCain. Call this flat out stupidity of the American people, or call it campaign HQ incompetence. I call it both.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/index.html#NHREP

The problem isn't the alleged stupidity of Americans which isn't the case. The crosstabs will show that the character issues were more important than the policy issues and that the NH voters wanted someone who stood up for their beliefs. I wrote this on this forum several times before NH voted.

Anyone with any political experience would have been able to read the same crosstabs, analyze the situation and respond accordingly. We were, as I said, in competition with McCain for the "character" vote and lost it in a landslide. HQ's tactic of attacking Huckabee falsely on taxes sent our people over to McCain and was as much of a blunder as the immigration ad in Iowa that chased our anti-war independent supporters over to Obama.


The main problem here was not the voters or vote fraud but the fraud of HQ being competent, able and willing to win this nomination.
 
So it's confirmed: U.S population is schizophrenic. 70% wanted an end to war and voted over-whelmingly for 100 years war instead. Lawdy, Lawdy, Lawdy.

Shopping list for tomorrow:

100 sacks of rice
100 sacks of beans
100 packets of matches
two can-openers in case i lose one
Seeds (organic - the ones undoctored by greedy corporatations)
a cow and a bull
a hen and a rooster
Butter churn.
Iodine
One spade for digging bunker
cement mix
Horse.

you might want to add H202 to your list. Also check out: http://www.amsilver.com/
 
So it's confirmed: U.S population is schizophrenic. 70% wanted an end to war and voted over-whelmingly for 100 years war instead. Lawdy, Lawdy, Lawdy.


Aint it the TRUTH.

The people have let FEAR run and ruin their every waking moment. Either the NH citizens want a 100 year war, or their covers are pulled so far up over their heads that they can't see the truth.

I believe in my heart that if we all keep tugging at those covers the covers will fall to the ground. And tug hard we must ALL do.

As to corporate we are all in the same boat and sinking their end of the boat only sinks ours. I don't think it's too wrong to point out their end of the boat seems to be taking on water. Here let me help you all bail some water out of the boat.... a few rather nice ideas for some advertisements that convey the sentiment of the day and pack a solid creative punch...

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/22249
 
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