The Benton curse isn't what it seems

[FSP-Rebel]

Like he's still on our side (not bs) and many of this hysteria is on some lol.
Check yoselves. Too late, will exp laters. But go on ahead and speculate for all of us. /error and dumb

 

[ctiger2]

Benton is just playing bad cop. Ron has aces up his sleeve.

 

[Aratus]

true... i think tampa will be unexpectedly unique and full of surprises
that will have reverberations and an umpact on events for fifty years

 

[Indy Vidual]

true... i think tampa will be unexpectedly unique and full of surprises
that will have reverberations and an umpact on events for fifty years

The best surprise would be Ron winning , and the worst (you might want to stop reading now this is the bad part) is when Jeb Bush comes surging out of a smoke-filled back room.

 

[Aratus]

^ the above post is like going from heaven to hell in less than 100 words ^

 

[[email protected]]

Yes Jessie is doing exactly what Ron Paul told him to do. I have no ill will towards Jessie for what he did. Just remember when he tore into that MSNBC guy about the delegates numbers. Then yesterday he used the MSM delegate numbers. If no one saw at what he was trying to say then shame on everyone. Jessie knows those numbers are wrong. He was telling the media exactly what they needed to hear.

 

[SludgeFactory]

The best surprise would be Ron winning , and the worst (you might want to stop reading now this is the bad part) is when Jeb Bush comes surging out of a smoke-filled back room.

Oh my goodness...the imagery...like out of some sort of bad movie. I can see the devils grin on Jeb Bush's face in your description.

 

[Pauling]

Yes Jessie is doing exactly what Ron Paul told him to do. I have no ill will towards Jessie for what he did. Just remember when he tore into that MSNBC guy about the delegates numbers. Then yesterday he used the MSM delegate numbers. If no one saw at what he was trying to say then shame on everyone. Jessie knows those numbers are wrong. He was telling the media exactly what they needed to hear.

That's a great point. Hmmmm.
+rep

 

[Indy Vidual]

A balanced approach.

^ the above post is like going from heaven to hell in less than 100 words ^

Back heaven to hell in less than 10 words

 

[Danjlion7]

If this thread is true, Jesse Benton executed the greatest most epic Rick roll ever.

 

[ATXRevolutionary]

Yes Jessie is doing exactly what Ron Paul told him to do. I have no ill will towards Jessie for what he did. Just remember when he tore into that MSNBC guy about the delegates numbers. Then yesterday he used the MSM delegate numbers. If no one saw at what he was trying to say then shame on everyone. Jessie knows those numbers are wrong. He was telling the media exactly what they needed to hear.

EXCELLENT point. I forgot about that interview. +rep

 

[truthhope]

Is it possible that they thought if we say what everyone probably already knows (is that we dont have the money to campaign everywhere), and if they tell everyone this in a way that the mainstream could spin and sound bad and wait to see how loyal the supporters are? Is this really a "Revolution" or just a short uprising? Me im here to stay no matter what happens, and if I get to go to Tampa, even if he dropped out I would still go and represent!

 

[francisco]

A balanced approach.



Back heaven to hell in less than 10 words

That's Crater Lake in Oreegun! Wizard Island in the middle.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Trojan Horse strategy. I'm in the wooden horse's belly. Here, take my hand and I'll pull you up inside with me.

 

[soulcyon]

A balanced approach.



Back heaven to hell in less than 10 words

But a picture could mean a thousand words

 

[KingNothing]

I'm of the opinion that everything a campaign does is calculated, and I'm also of the opinion that our campaign is honest.
It's possible to do as Jesse and Ron did here --- to honestly convey the truth, but to do so in a way that appeases multiple interests.

Think of the way they've phrased things in the past, think of the way they've manipulated the field and their opponents. You really think these guys are dumb? Really?

This is why Benton is MUCH better at what he does than all the people here who are angry with him would be. He knows what he's doing. He's been living the politics game with a man who Lew Rockwell called "the best political strategist" he'd ever seen, Ron Paul.

 

[V3n]

I think some folks just watch too closely. Lady_V3n LOVES Ron Paul and follows more than just a casual observer. She was aware of the 'campaign shift' but totally unaware of any Benton/Tate/Wead drama. It's just us on this board that hang on every word. Maybe we need to take a step back and just see how it plays out.

 

[Matthanuf06]

Stop the rationalization. Sure they undersold the delegate numbers, but do not dismiss the fact that they conceded defeat to Romney. And do not dismiss the fact that Ron is seemingly displeased on how the grassroots is handling the convention (don't get me started how we've been left high and dry). Tampa will be interesting solely because the grassroots is becoming more and more disconnected from the campaign. It would take an act of God to get the nomination, but sure we can hope for a speech, some policy concessions, and at most the VP slot. But thinking we have a real shot at the nomination is dangerous and is just setting yourself up for serious disappointment. It just isn't realistic at this point.

And I agree that Benton is mainly carrying out what Ron wants, but I still don't like it. I'm not a fan of nepotism period. It is amateurish and gives an aura of a lack of seriousness. I don't like it whether or not someone is seriously qualified or not just because of the signals it sends.

 

[Captain Shays]

I don't get the crater lake reference

 

[Captain Shays]

Stop the rationalization. Sure they undersold the delegate numbers, but do not dismiss the fact that they conceded defeat to Romney. And do not dismiss the fact that Ron is seemingly displeased on how the grassroots is handling the convention (don't get me started how we've been left high and dry). Tampa will be interesting solely because the grassroots is becoming more and more disconnected from the campaign. It would take an act of God to get the nomination, but sure we can hope for a speech, some policy concessions, and at most the VP slot. But thinking we have a real shot at the nomination is dangerous and is just setting yourself up for serious disappointment. It just isn't realistic at this point.

And I agree that Benton is mainly carrying out what Ron wants, but I still don't like it. I'm not a fan of nepotism period. It is amateurish and gives an aura of a lack of seriousness. I don't like it whether or not someone is seriously qualified or not just because of the signals it sends.

THIS


I ran into a co-worker yesterday and we talked about this a little. He said "it's over". Of course I was trying to tell him that we're still in it to win it but something inside me knew I was wrong. I wonder how many supporters are just so discouraged now that they won't give any money, they won't knock on doors, or phone bank or hand out flyers or put up signs now. I just can't tell you guys how I feel right now. I am seriously on the verge of a major depression. I am so disappointed but no doubt I will keep fighting and keep trying. Thats all I know. A few months ago I actually got fired for talking about Ron Paul to my customers. Yeah, they hired me back and I still talk about Ron Paul.......just a little more strategically and diplomatically.


Ya know what works? This is the REAL kicker. Lately the stadiums that have been filling up to see Ron Paul despite all the media blackout has had people's eyes opening up to the OBVIOUS attempt to control the outcome of our elections by the establishment-media marriage. EVERYBODY no matter what party, no matter what idealogy KNOWS there are those at the top who want to remain in power and to keep that power they will do just about ANYTHING including trying to ignore the ONE MAN who is their greatest threat to remaining in power. EVERYBODY whether Tea Party or OWS KNOWS something is WRONG in our govenment.

The people who have been filling up the stadiums compared to NO MENTION of it shows very clearly those sttempts to remain in power. I have used that to convince at least 100 people to look into Ron Paul letely because of his recent popularity. Of course the delegate counts also helped in a BIG way.

And now all of a sudden they back down?


WTF?????


SCREW the campaign's secret strategy or whatever they THINK they are doing. They just cut our hearts out. They cut our feet out from under us when we had the establishment on the ropes.

Now some one come back and tell me where I'm wrong