The Beginning of the End for Donald Trump

[Mach]

Anyone that is Pro-contested convention is a Hillary supporter and they know it, it is their way of supporting her under the table and no amount of principle is going to change that, she is a guaranteed puppet.

The Neos are fighting for an exceptional split in the party, for some reason.

This looks very collectivist, and the logic does not hold up. An equal argument could be made that Cruz has better odds against Hillary and a contested convention would be the only way he could get the nomination.

The reason some are pushing for a contested convention is because it is a guaranteed win for Hillary, anyone with any common sense in ratios and human nature knows that there is already so much divide that any other little "discrepancy" will only tear things into even smaller pieces and help the other side win, Hillary is a New World Candidate, voting with principle (individualism) knowing she will be the President afterward is not principle to me, as a matter of fact, it is a type of collectivism.

I've said before, I'm not what you would call a Trump "supporter," I just see Hillary as worse, again, she is nothing but more of the same old agenda.

If, by chance, Trump gets in there, then I will critique not as a collectivist, but as an Individual, I am nowhere near one of those stick with one side no matter what they doers.... I think a lot of you give him way to much credit thinking he is going to be so terrible.... i.e, death and destruction...

 

[CPUd]

So everyone else attacking Trump is a metaphysical illusion? I'm sorry, I'm not voting for any of these clowns, but this assertion has no connection with reality.

Those attacks don't hurt him. His response to the attacks do sometimes hurt him, especially in recent weeks. And many of the attacks he brings on himself.

 

[CPUd]

The reason some are pushing for a contested convention is because it is a guaranteed win for Hillary, anyone with any common sense in ratios and human nature knows that there is already so much divide that any other little "discrepancy" will only tear things into even smaller pieces and help the other side win, Hillary is a New World Candidate, voting with principle (individualism) knowing she will be the President afterward is not principle to me, as a matter of fact, it is a type of collectivism.

I've said before, I'm not what you would call a Trump "supporter," I just see Hillary as worse, again, she is nothing but more of the same old agenda.

If, by chance, Trump gets in there, then I will critique not as a collectivist, but as an Individual, I am nowhere near one of those stick with one side no matter what they doers.... I think a lot of you give him way to much credit thinking he is going to be so terrible.... i.e, death and destruction...

The reason the push for a contested convention is getting stronger is because the current frontrunner is extremely unpopular outside a small segment of the general electorate, and polls even with Clinton in deep red states like MS where the other candidates are ahead by 5-10 points.

Actually he is unpopular within the party as well:

Look at the WI results last night- The GOP-backed Supreme Court candidate won big in the Cruz counties, but in the Trump counties they were actually voting for the other candidate.

 

[FindLiberty]

Getting a funny feeling the statistic numbers are real
but chosen to be slanted, a bit. It looks like the orange
one is toast! lol

Is that also counting all the votes for BOTH democrats,
running against Trump?

Maybe it's the GOP and not just Trump that's so unpopular?

It should include non-votes by the other half of the population
that did not even bother to vote if the point is to show how
many people do not support and those that did not vote for Trump.
I bet that would look even more impressive.

I wonder, how did Rand Paul do in those recent primaries
if presented the same way? I PERSONALLY know that he
received ONE vote in IL, but I'm not sure if it was even counted.
(Even though he withdrew, his name was still on the IL ballot!)

 

[CPUd]

Getting a funny feeling the statistic numbers are real
but chosen to be slanted, a bit. It looks like the orange
one is toast! lol

Is that also counting all the votes for BOTH democrats,
running against Trump?

Maybe it's the GOP and not just Trump that's so unpopular?

It should include non-votes by the other half of the population
that did not even bother to vote if the point is to show how
many people do not support and those that did not vote for Trump.
I bet that would look even more impressive.

I wonder, how did Rand Paul do in those recent primaries
if presented the same way? I PERSONALLY know that he
received ONE vote in IL, but I'm not sure if it was even counted.
(Even though he withdrew, his name was still on the IL ballot!)

Kasich: slightly popular
GOP: slightly unpopular
Cruz: unpopular
Trump: extremely unpopular

And then we have this:


best parts of that video are the crowd shots:

 

[hells_unicorn]

The reason the push for a contested convention is getting stronger is because the current frontrunner is extremely unpopular outside a small segment of the general electorate, and polls even with Clinton in deep red states like MS where the other candidates are ahead by 5-10 points.

Actually he is unpopular within the party as well:

Look at the WI results last night- The GOP-backed Supreme Court candidate won big in the Cruz counties, but in the Trump counties they were actually voting for the other candidate.

This list of stats is misleading, particularly since many of them took place with more than 4 candidates running, and it assumes that those who show up constitute the whole of "The People" (whatever that actually is). Trump's numbers in upcoming states will likely break the 50% threshold, particularly in the remaining Northeastern states. It's also a mistake to assume that those who voted for someone like Carson, Fiorina and some of the others were voting specifically to oppose Trump.

You need to try opposing Trump without coming off as ridiculous. It can be done, but it's not the way that you're doing it now.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Polling supports this. You're welcome to deny the polls all the way to her inauguration day.

The polls do NOT support this because the general hasn't even STARTED yet. There's no sense wasting money campaigning against an opponent that hasn't yet been decided. All the campaign expenditures for the time being are focused on getting the nomination.

Why do people bother arguing against this?? So silly......

 

[erowe1]

Anyone that is Pro-contested convention is a Hillary supporter and they know it

That's ridiculous.

Anybody who supports Trump is a Hillary supporter, or worse.

 

[erowe1]

I've said before, I'm not what you would call a Trump "supporter,"

Are you sure about that? Because you sound an awful lot like one.

 

[hells_unicorn]

The polls do NOT support this because the general hasn't even STARTED yet. There's no sense wasting money campaigning against an opponent that hasn't yet been decided. All the campaign expenditures for the time being are focused on getting the nomination.

Why do people bother arguing against this?? So silly......

Some of Hilldog's supporters are starting to question whether she will pull this out given how badly she's been losing to Sanders in the past several states. Even with Clinton pulling out a nail-biter with the rigged super delegate system, she looks extremely bad right now. Everybody is so paranoid about this woman being some sort of unstoppable force, completely oblivious to the fact that she was stopped cold 7 years ago by a virtual political nobody when she was in far better shape.

 

[Zippyjuan]

So Trump clinches first ballot nomination before June 7 and the finale Super Tuesday . . .
Duhnald needing 55.7% of delegates left after 2/3 of the total are now bound.

Trump needs 494 out of 882 remaining delegates to clinch. Cruz needs 720 of them (82%). To tie Trump, Cruz needs 667 of the remaining delegates or 76% of them (assuming that the other delegates only go to Trump)

 

[CPUd]

This list of stats is misleading, particularly since many of them took place with more than 4 candidates running, and it assumes that those who show up constitute the whole of "The People" (whatever that actually is). Trump's numbers in upcoming states will likely break the 50% threshold, particularly in the remaining Northeastern states. It's also a mistake to assume that those who voted for someone like Carson, Fiorina and some of the others were voting specifically to oppose Trump.

You need to try opposing Trump without coming off as ridiculous. It can be done, but it's not the way that you're doing it now.

I stand with 75% of the membership of RPFs and 80% of the US electorate, to oppose Trump in all ways, from the logically sound to the insanely absurd.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Some of Hilldog's supporters are starting to question whether she will pull this out given how badly she's been losing to Sanders in the past several states. Even with Clinton pulling out a nail-biter with the rigged super delegate system, she looks extremely bad right now. Everybody is so paranoid about this woman being some sort of unstoppable force, completely oblivious to the fact that she was stopped cold 7 years ago by a virtual political nobody when she was in far better shape.

^This

Plus, Hillary's health is reported to be bad, some say very bad. You can read doctors saying she didn't give herself enough time to heal completely from the Dec 2012 concussion, which would explain the coughing fits as well as the inch-thick glasses she wore for a while.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hillary concussion

Lot of question marks right now.

 

[Zippyjuan]

A coughing fit means she is dying? Wearing glasses (which she has had for decades) instead of contacts means she is is bad health?

 

[Jamesiv1]

A coughing fit means she is dying? Wearing glasses (which she has had for decades) instead of contacts means she is is bad health?

it wasn't 'just' a coughing fit and they weren't 'just' a pair of glasses.

check the google bomb.

I don't care one way or the other.... in fact, I think it would be the most entertaining to see Hillary vs DJ Trumpmaster. Anything else would be ho hum....

p.s. Who said she was dying? I just said there's a lot of question marks... as in, she might have to drop out for health reasons.

 

[Zippyjuan]

it wasn't 'just' a coughing fit and they weren't 'just' a pair of glasses.

check the google bomb.

I don't care one way or the other.... in fact, I think it would be the most entertaining to see Hillary vs DJ Trumpmaster. Anything else would be ho hum....

p.s. Who said she was dying? I just said there's a lot of question marks... as in, she might have to drop out for health reasons.

You did.

Plus, Hillary's health is reported to be bad, some say very bad.

The last reference I can find to a coughing fit is from February. It is possible she had a cold or that her throat was getting dry and irritated from all the speeches she was making. The concussion was four years ago. (Carl Rove is the one saying she is still having health issues from it).

 

[Jamesiv1]

You did.



The last reference I can find to a coughing fit is from February. It is possible she had a cold or that her throat was getting dry and irritated from all the speeches she was making.

Quit standing in the way of American Greatness.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Neither Hillary nor Trump will lead America to Greatness.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Neither Hillary nor Trump will lead America to Greatness.

You sir, are obstructing the path to America Making Great Deals.

 

[hells_unicorn]

I stand with 75% of the membership of RPFs and 80% of the US electorate, to oppose Trump in all ways, from the logically sound to the insanely absurd.

Hmm, I guess 75% of RPFs and 80% of the US electorate don't have better things to do than trying desperately to stop one douche from getting power so that another douche can take power, can't say I really see the draw given that the only person worth voting for has opted to pick his battles. Then again, I think you entertained supporting Hilldog, so I guess I should expect no less than the completely absurd.