The Beached White Male

[ninepointfive]

I have a theory to propose. to put it simply:

Do you think that this is some form of mate selection? Whereas the women of society berate white straight men, and if they become pussies, those men deserve no respect. It would take an alpha male to succeed in such a world, and therefore the women tend to select and compete for the most confident male.

 

[iprice81]

I was told by someone (family friend) in HR at large company. That the deliberately start white males at lower compensation then women and minorities so that in average they do not discriminate against the latter.

 

[JustinTime]

Did you even read what I said?

I said like 5 times I DO NOT WANT advantages given to straight white men because of our sexual orientation, gender, or race!

You took my comment the wrong way.

 

[acptulsa]

You took my comment the wrong way.

He actually seems to think it's more fun that way.

 

[JustinTime]

Blaming your failures (or "C" grade, or whatever) on perceived discrimination is weaksauce without any real proof. Sometimes there's only a hunch. You can do something about that.

Yep, but what constitutes proof changes radically from one complainer to the next. Claiming women are paid less than men doesnt seem to require much proving at all... all one need do is make the claim.

 

[JustinTime]

I was told by someone (family friend) in HR at large company. That the deliberately start white males at lower compensation then women and minorities so that in average they do not discriminate against the latter.

I wouldnt doubt it, its basically affirmative action, and thats accepted government and corporate policy.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I have a theory to propose. to put it simply:

Do you think that this is some form of mate selection? Whereas the women of society berate white straight men, and if they become pussies, those men deserve no respect. It would take an alpha male to succeed in such a world, and therefore the women tend to select and compete for the most confident male.

It certainly would effect a male who is looking for a mate. Jobless is a negative.

Existing relationships only seem to be effected if they were already "on the edge", and/or the male only served as a money provider.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I was told by someone (family friend) in HR at large company. That the deliberately start white males at lower compensation then women and minorities so that in average they do not discriminate against the latter.

I have witnessed money (salary) being distributed to female workers over other workers, even when overall "performance ranking" did not warrant it. The manager making the decision was female, and occasionally spoke about making up for past "injustice" against women.

Edit: This type of "preference" is by no means isolated to any particular group. It is human nature, and fairly common.

 

[Pete Kay]

It's surprising to me that so many on this board don't seem to talk about or understand cultural Marxism and the explicit attack on White males as a means to "equalize" society. From the cultural Marxist point of view, White Christian males have established an oppressive social system that is designed to enrich White Christian males at the expense of women and minorities. So they long ago came to the conclusion that the existing social norms and the establishment must be destroyed and that means destroying the White Christian male. This was once something that was openly opposed, but over time, through shaming rhetoric, White males have laid down and given up and accepted their displacement and loss of power. This Newsweek article is the celebration of that.

That's why the Tea Party is so troubling to the Leftists. They see a movement that is primarily White and socially conservative and that means that there's some breath of life left in the lowly White Christian male and that scares them. So what do they do to try to derail the Tea Party? They use shaming rhetoric to divert the attention of the movement by calling them racists and bigots. And the Tea Party, so oblivious to the Left's tactics, complies by wasting time and energy trying to prove that they aren't racist and bigots.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

This Newsweek article is the celebration of that.

Nice description.

That's why the Tea Party is so troubling to the Leftists. They see a movement that is primarily White and socially conservative and that means that there's some breath of life left in the lowly White Christian male and that scares them. So what do they do to try to derail the Tea Party? They use shaming rhetoric to divert the attention of the movement by calling them racists and bigots. And the Tea Party, so oblivious to the Left's tactics, complies by wasting time and energy trying to prove that they aren't racist and bigots.

Good catch on a related issue. That would explain the venom being thrown out by some people at anything "Tea Party".

 

[LibertyEagle]

Dude, calm down. JustinTime wasn't even responding to you; he was making a sarcastic comment to lampshade the predictable hypocrisy of the feminist and affirmative action camps.

MelissaWV isn't your enemy either, and if you calm down she might be more willing to engage you on the points you made. Believe me, I can empathize with your position on this. I see the double standards and discrimination, and I see the rampant ill will towards towards males, white people, and straight people. When you're all three combined, you automatically have a lot of people loathing you for real or perceived advantages and hoping you fail.

There's a prevailing sentiment that "straight white males are a thing of the past, and thank God for that," and it's really sinister. A lot of it is obvious blowback from the past, but that doesn't make it any more fair either. Worse though, I think a lot of it is manufactured. For many, a lot of the hatred is about "sticking it to the man," but the truly powerful have been deliberately misidentifying "the man" for three reasons:

• It deflects attention from the real institutional issues. The power elite who have dominated society for so long are also primarily straight white males, but they have nothing to fear from this process and they know it.
• It's symbolic. "Straight white males" are meant to symbolize the traditional American values, real (like free enterprise) or perceived (like fancy suits and the corruption of corporatism). On the magazine cover and in the early paragraphs of the article, notice that the "beached white males" are made to be synonymous with "the suits." The idea is that destroying straight white males will usher in a new era, where corporatism no longer reigns, and the world will be a more fair and equal place. Of course, corporatism isn't going anywhere, but what's left of free enterprise is. Destroying straight white males is symbolic for destroying free enterprise and ushering in a system of "social justice," which is a euphemism for massive government dependence.
• In the same vein, it's about demoralization: You can undermine certain values - like free enterprise or limited government - by demoralizing the traditional defenders and "mascots" of those values.

Great post. I tried to give you +rep, but apparently I've run the well dry for the time being.

 

[reardenstone]

Thank God someone still has the guts to stand up for white men.

WE are the people at a disadvantage that are discriminated against now.


MORE women in college than men.

MORE help to get into college for women and minorities than straight white men.

MORE pay for women. Yes, women make more money than men now. It is a statistical FACT conveniently ignored by the media because they must continue their blind hate towards straight white men.

MORE women and minorities are given promotions by the government and companies out of fear and terror of affirmitive action, lawsuits, groups like the NAACP and feminist groups, and so on.

STRAIGHT WHITE MEN are the people in constant danger of being accused of hate speech, not women and minorities.

STRAIGHT WHITE MEN are insulted daily, yet it is absolutely unacceptable, barbaric, and horrifying to insult women or minorities. Straight white men speak in fear and absolute TERROR of being misunderstood as saying something insulting to women and minorities. Why the double standard?


The anti-straight white male agenda in our media and government is blatantly obvious to anyone who wants to think logically, rather than feel guilty for the actions of ancestors of straight white males, women, or minorities. Straight white males feeling guilt for what our ancestors did, or women and minorities feeling resentment, fear, jealousy, or whatever because of what straight white males did to other groups a long time ago, is NOT logical because those people were NOT ANY OF US.





I'm SICK of being insulted and hurt by the media and government. We gave women and minorities not JUST a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, but...

WE HAVE HELPED ALL OF YOU AND PUSHED YOU UP ON OUR SHOULDERS AND STILL YOU DEMAND THAT YOU ALL ARE NOT EQUAL, WHEN YOU ARE NOW ABOVE US THANKS TO US QUIETLY LISTENING TO ALL THIS HATE SPEECH TOWARDS US AND THANKS TO US PUTTING UP WITH ALL THE UNFAIR INEQUALITIES DIRECTED TOWARDS US!!!!!!!





I will subscribe to Newsweek now just because of this article, IF it is what the title suggests.

It is pure insanity to say men are not being hit harder than women by the recession when we are being hit TWICE AS HARD ACCORDING TO UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS! Get over your equality complex people.

We're past equal. It is now STRAIGHT WHITE MEN who are being discriminated against.

I ask for no help either. I don't want affirmitive action. I don't want more help for college. I don't want anything else. I don't want to rant about how disadvantaged straight white men are.

But it must be said.



And you know what else???

I'm proud to be a straight white male, and saying that isn't racist or sexist either. I'm proud of my heritage, and our accomplishments. I will say this because I am tired of being told it is racist and sexist to be proud to be a straight white male.



I will risk my reputation here to say what must be said. If I am banned for my statements, then it is only evidence that what I say is true because I cannot merely defend straight white males without being accused of racism and/or sexism. Yet, nothing I have said is sexist or racist because I would never support doing something to insult or harm a group of people.

I am only saying straight white men are insulted and hurt in today's world everyday of our lives. We cannot escape insults nor can we avoid being hurt somehow everyday of our lives now.

And I'm absolutely not saying most women and minorities dislike straight white men. However, you don't walk in our shoes everyday, and don't see the world as a straight white man, so I don't think you notice the ridiculous discrimination we face all the time.

+2x44!

Just kidding, but seriously, I'm glad you have the courage to saw you've had enough. I have similar frustrations and assumptions made about me but I am so afraid to speak out for fear of being labeled a "racist" with "white privilege".

 

[Pericles]

News flash! - Life is unfair.

 

[moostraks]

News flash! - Life is unfair.

Here I thought everyone gets a trophy. In reading through these posts I have ascertained one thing, it is clearly an effective article for pitting sexes and races against each other.

Wallowing in self pity never gets anyone anywhere. Some folks need to learn to turn adversity into positive motivation to defeat their oppressors rather than flailing at others who are not oppressing them.

 

[Mini-Me]

Here I thought everyone gets a trophy. In reading through these posts I have ascertained one thing, it is clearly an effective article for pitting sexes and races against each other.

Wallowing in self pity never gets anyone anywhere. Some folks need to learn to turn adversity into positive motivation to defeat their oppressors rather than flailing at others who are not oppressing them.

This too. As long as the power elite can subdivide us into groups and pit us against each other, they know we will never be able to unite against them.

 

[anaconda]

I started to read the article but it is downright corny. It's trying to paint the unemployed guys as all having these shattered self images and crumbling families. That is simply bullshit. I'm sure some people react that way or have superficial families that might turn on them. But as some sweeping generalization I find it corny.