That Student Loan Forgiveness Thing...

[TheTexan]

I will not forgive

and I will not forget

 

[osan]

One payoff of this distinction is that forgiving student loans helps starve the federal government of revenue.

Nah. Theye'll just issue more currency.

 

[TheTexan]

Some debts cannot be discharged through bankruptcy.

Like the government's debt to me.

I will claim all that is owed, with interest.

Some day.

Soon.

 

[Invisible Man]

Nah. Theye'll just issue more currency.

That's true. But if there were no constraints on their ability to do that, they would just eliminate all taxes and fund everything solely by money printing.

 

[TheTexan]

That's true. But if there were no constraints on their ability to do that, they would just eliminate all taxes and fund everything solely by money printing.

One could make an argument that any constraints are artificial, and exist solely to create the perception that there are, indeed, constraints

 

[Invisible Man]

One could make an argument that any constraints are artificial, and exist solely to create the perception that there are, indeed, constraints

I think there are constraints with more teeth than that. The fed's ability to lend money relies on borrowers having confidence that relies on predictable revenue for the government that isn't just printing more money.

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[osan]

That's true. But if there were no constraints on their ability to do that, they would just eliminate all taxes and fund everything solely by money printing.

No sir. They would continue to tax because Theye see EVERYTHING as a zero-sum. And even if Theye didn't, they nonetheless need to keep us as close to poverty as possible for the sake of keeping us down, so they can continue to accumulate with no fear of competition for either power or material wealth.

We're dealing with devils here. Never forget that.

 

[osan]

Some debts cannot be discharged through bankruptcy.

Like the government's debt to me.

I will claim all that is owed, with interest.

Some day.

Soon.

I hope you prove correct, but at this juncture I cannot help but whether you've developed a severe meth habit.

These pricks are not only running roughshod, they are doing so without any apparent threat of consequences. Theye are not afraid of you, or me. Theye are developing tech that will keep them in control, most likely. That said, Theye DO seem to be fucking up in overstepping, so a sliver of hope remains, so far as I can see. But even so, I maintain advocacy of press on regardless, come what may.

We may have no choice as to when we die, assuming here it is at Theire hands, but we sure as hell have a choice in how we meet our respective ends. I have no intentions of going on my knees, one of my very few fears in this life being that I will fail at the critical moment. Only time and circumstance will tell.

 

[osan]

One could make an argument that any constraints are artificial, and exist solely to create the perception that there are, indeed, constraints

If you think about it, that is precisely what the Constitution has played as its role as a political artifact.

We should be slitting the right throats, yet here we remain, effectively inert and despicably so.

 

[Invisible Man]

No sir. They would continue to tax because Theye see EVERYTHING as a zero-sum. And even if Theye didn't, they nonetheless need to keep us as close to poverty as possible for the sake of keeping us down, so they can continue to accumulate with no fear of competition for either power or material wealth.

We're dealing with devils here. Never forget that.

I see them more as a cross between devils and livestock owners, where we're the livestock. They take our interests into consideration only inasmuch as they overlap with their own. They want us to continue to produce for them, so, as long as they can keep that going, they'd prefer we not die. And while they're at it, if they can find ways to get the goose to squawk less while still taking as many or more feathers off of it, they'll make use of those methods.

Nothing you said would support preferring direct taxation over money printing in any amount, if it really were the case that they didn't have to rely on both. But they do have to rely on both. The two means mutually support each other and maximize the amount of the economy under the feds' control. They couldn't give up either one and rely solely on the other without losing some of that control.

 

[tebowlives]

I think it is fraudulent to say somebody with a Dance major earns $40k/year as a waitress and use that in the average calculation, they should say they earn $0 and use that to calculate the average.

I've read just over 40% work in their degreed field and about 2/3 of degreed people have jobs that require a degree.
Maybe the parents should get sued for enticing their kids?