That CNN poll with a large Hillary bump? Well, not so fast...

libertyjam

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Check it out. That poll going around saying Bernie people are going to vote for Clinton in droves?
They deliberately left out everyone under the age of 35, and every registered democrat under the age of 49. Check it. It's only old people.
Slimeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Further investigation revealed...

1. Page 39 - Democrats geographic demographics are only for the South.
2. Time frame of polling starts on 29th, when ‪#‎Demexit‬ in motion.
3. Total polling sample (all by tc) only 1003 people.

So only old people, from the southern states, before people really grokked how huge this corruption was, and it was the bare amount to make a sample.
This is all so when they can rig the machines without too many people noticing. So.. .you noticed? Good.



Always check the cross-tabs. That recent CNN/ORC poll showing Hillary Clinton getting a big post-convention bump? It didn't include any respondents between the ages of 18 and 34. Furthermore, it didn't include any registered Democrats between the ages of 18 and 49.

See for yourself: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/08/01/2016.post-dem.convention.pdf
 
all that aside, it still showed that clinton trounces trump in foreign policy and racism. Those are the two key metrics for any presidential win and shes killing it...even if shes a fraud and fake.
 
Pat Caddell says Reuters flat-out ‘cooked’ poll as part of media ‘jihad’ against Trump

Political strategist Pat Caddell knows a sham when he sees one, and he’s not afraid to call it out, big time.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/08...lat-cooked-poll-part-media-jihad-trump-373322

Caddell was near disbelief by what he called a “cooked” Reuters daily tracking poll he claimed was rigged to favor Democrat Hillary Clinton.

“They not only changed their formula, to put Hillary ahead. They went back and changed the results, for a week of results where Trump was ahead, and then they turned those into Hillary leads,” he said.

“They also erased all the former polling off the site. They didn’t tweak their procedure – they cooked it.”

Well, well, well. Say it isn’t so. But, Caddell didn’t end there, and went on with his allegations.

“They made a switch, as much as 9 points, in their results from the beginning of last week, the 25th and 26th. It is, beyond doubt, the most outrageous thing,” Caddell said. “Never in my life have I seen a news organization, and a supposedly reputable poll, do something so dishonest.”

Caddell also blasted Fox News and ABC for their biased reporting during his discussion with Breitbart News Daily’s Alex Marlow on Sunday.

“That is language from another planet,” Caddell said of Clinton, who was basically given the chance to exonerate herself on Fox News Sunday of any wrongdoing when it comes to the email scandal. Clinton basically had said the FBI found her responses to operating a secret server honest and consistent.

Of course, anyone watching the email scandal unfold, knows nothing could be further from the truth, and Caddell got busy slamming the media for carrying her water.

“This woman, to make that assertion after all the proven lies, should be a big story, but it will not be.” He then laid into ABC anchor and Clinton lackey, George Stephanopoulos for essentially ambushing Donald Trump.

“It is unbelievable what he did. He interviewed Trump, and basically then had the Khan family – the Muslim mother and father of the soldier who was killed – and General Allen on to attack Trump after the interview. He showed them the interview and then let attack him, and then loaded a panel with people who are so negative,” Caddell complained.

As far as the Reuters’ poll? That’s just another link in the deceitful media chain he calls a “crisis of democracy.”

“This is what the media is willing to do, to try to elect her,” Caddell said. “This poll is nothing but a part of a media offensive. In the 45 years since I was a child, in top-level presidential campaigns, I have never seen the media on such a jihad, and so involved in hiding facts, and not following up. This is a crisis of democracy, what the press is now doing.”

What makes Caddell’s strong statements all the more remarkable, is that he is a life-long Democrat. Perhaps, not for long.
 
Under Methodology it says:

METHODOLOGY
A total of 1,003 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones.
Among the entire sample, 28% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 48%
described themselves as independents or members of another party.

All respondents were asked questions concerning basic demographics, and the entire sample was weighted to reflect
national Census figures for gender, race, age, education, region of country, and telephone usage.

Crosstabs on the following pages only include results for subgroups with enough unweighted cases to produce a sampling
error of +/- 8.5 percentage points or less. Some subgroups represent too small a share of the national population to produce
crosstabs with an acceptable sampling error. Interviews were conducted among these subgroups, but results for groups
with a sampling error larger than +/-8.5 percentage points are not displayed and instead are denoted with "NA".

Nothing about any age groups being left out.

Page 39 has data from their International Poll. Not sure what you are looking at.
 
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Some of us tried to explain probability sampling during the primaries.
 
When polls support your opinion- they are facts. When they don't, they must be faked or manipulated.
 
Under Methodology it says:



Nothing about any age groups being left out.


Page 39 has data from their International Poll. Not sure what you are looking at.

So the sample sizes were not large enough to be less than 8.5% error, in other words they were too small to be statistically relevant. Sure sounds like not enough samples for those demographics to be included in the poll. Sure sounds like agreeing with what was said above, thanks for agreeing!


Every single page has the heading CNN/ORC International Poll, it is on the Title page, as in, you know, the Title? Not sure what you are looking at, Juan 3.3?
 
So the sample sizes were not large enough to be less than 8.5% error, in other words they were too small to be statistically relevant. Sure sounds like not enough samples for those demographics to be included in the poll. Sure sounds like agreeing with what was said above, thanks for agreeing!


Every single page has the heading CNN/ORC International Poll, it is on the Title page, as in, you know, the Title? Not sure what you are looking at, Juan 3.3?

"some subgroups" had an 8.5% or larger margin of error and were not included.
 
They do skew early polls towards the Democratic candidates to try to build momentum for them, then in the days before the election they try to be more accurate because it's better for business to predict the winner. I'm sure she's not really ahead by 10 points, but she's definitely taken the lead back. How could she not with the relentless attacks on Trump since the convention? The news has literally been wall to wall "Trump is unqualified", "Hillary is a uniter".
 
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