Thanks ladies. 65% of women favor stricter gun laws; only 44% of men do

[Nirvikalpa]

Sounds good

My (very liberal) best friend was just taken to the gun range by her very conservative, pro-gun, firefighter fiance - after many weeks of arguing about it, as he wanted to have a gun in their new apartment. She ended up really enjoying it, and signed up for some safety classes so she could apply for a permit herself - and he just purchased a firearm for their apartment.

I told them about the Appleseed Project, and they're looking to do one in upstate NY soon.

 

[MRK]

Nikki's right about taking your daughters to an Appleseed event or out hunting. In high school, students could take the day off for the first day of buck season, and it was never the girls who were missing from class.

People fear what they don't know, especially scary-looking things that can kill and make loud noises.

Perhaps the single fellows here could find some anti-gun female, romance 'em and take them to the range.

That sounds like a good idea. Except I can't bear full-blown statist women anymore. All the women I've been with in the past few years have more experience with firearms than I do! I will however accept donations to encourage me to woo statists. PM for Paypal address.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

I've raised three daughters.

I've done that with all three.

All three own guns and are "pro gun rights".

That said, there is a definite and quantifiable voting gap between men and women on issues of liberty.

And feeding the stereotype certainly isn't helping, that I know and can attest for.

 

[green73]

Ron Paul Forums: Where the only posts about women are if they like big penes', that women should stop wearing bras, and that women are to blame for new gun control laws.

Ah, I see.

Funny threads shall not be tolerated!

 

[AGRP]

A valid point that needs to be brought up. I have seen it a lot, especially while I was at college in PA - brothers and sisters where the boy would be taken out hunting at an early age by the father, and the daughter would just sit home.

Want to change the statistic? Mothers and fathers, take your daughters to a shooting range. Take them to an appleseed project gathering.

Ron Paul Forums: Where the only posts about women are if they like big penes', that women should stop wearing bras, and that women are to blame for new gun control laws.

Ah, I see.

I dont understand the attitude of animosity. Men and women tend to think differently. Thats just the way it is.

 

[green73]

I dont understand the attitude of animosity. Men and women tend to think differently. Thats just the way it is.

How dare you!

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Green, where did I ever say you were making more women want gun control laws with your post?

I am pointing out the hypocrisy of libertarians being "anti-collectivism," and then you posting this and ignoring individuals. It's a media hit piece that directly divides the sexes - and your sarcastic title "thanks ladies," doesn't exactly help, either.

Believe what you want, and I will believe I want about you

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If I didn't believe in majority of the positions held by a man (Ron Paul), I wouldn't be here. So I guess if men and women do truly think differently, I am a fool.

 

[Original_Intent]

Ron Paul Forums: Where the only posts about women are if they like big penes', that women should stop wearing bras, and that women are to blame for new gun control laws.

Ah, I see.

Certainly every person deserves to be measured by their individual merit or lack thereof, not because of any group that they can be lumped in with. The women who are in the liberty fight are simply amazing and deserve our thanks and our admiration.

On the other side of the coin, I don't think we need to toe the politically correct line to the point that we can't say something like the OP says. As a group, politically protected classes such as women and minorities have done irreparable damage to our country. Granted, most have done so due to being manipulated by a bunch of greedy, power hungry white men (with some token women and minorities admitted to the club).

I'm not a racist or a misogynist. But I deeply feel that women were given the right to vote because said greedy white men knew that they could then get any law passed if it was for the children, and the welfare state and move towards socialism would have either been impossible or would have taken decades longer without it.

Am I saying women should not have the right to vote? No! I am just pointing out the facts which I think are not contestable - why it was done and the result of doing it.

Anyway, tat probably didn't help, and my gut tells me I have probably managed to offend most of the wonderful women here. If so, my heartfelt and sincere apologies. I don't blame the women or minorities, and I certainly don't believe in collectivism. What I do believe is that those in power know how to move the majority, they know what buttons to push, and women and minorities AS A GROUP were handy tools that were used in achieving their objectives. In many ways, this makes the individuals in those groups that saw through the deception all the more admirable.

 

[amy31416]

Isn't it a couple of dudes who are pushing the latest gun control law? One of them an alleged conservative?

Huh. Not sure what to make of that.

 

[green73]

Green, where did I ever say you were making more women want gun control laws with your post?

I am pointing out the hypocrisy of libertarians being "anti-collectivism," and then you posting this and ignoring individuals. It's a media hit piece that directly divides the sexes - and your sarcastic title "thanks ladies," doesn't exactly help, either.

Believe what you want, and I will believe I want about you

That's an interesting take on collectivism. Thanks.

It would really hurt me if you didn't like me. Please like me.

Finally, you really need to lighten up. The post was made lightheartedly.

 

[amy31416]

Isn't it a couple of dudes who are pushing the latest gun control law? One of them an alleged conservative?

Huh. Not sure what to make of that.

 

[green73]

Isn't it a couple of dudes who are pushing the latest gun control law? One of them an alleged conservative?

Huh. Not sure what to make of that.

Now you are bringing evil politicians into it. They are not like the average citizen. (I know, I'm such a collectivist!).

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Isn't it a couple of dudes who are pushing the latest gun control law? One of them an alleged conservative?

Huh. Not sure what to make of that.

 

[otherone]

Genteel ladies have causes...

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Isn't it a couple of dudes who are pushing the latest gun control law? One of them an alleged conservative?

Huh. Not sure what to make of that.

Seems 18 out of the 20 women in the U.S. Senate voted to end the filibuster of gun control. The two that didn't are Deb Fischer and Lisa Murkowski.

 

[amy31416]

I've raised three daughters.

I've done that with all three.

All three own guns and are "pro gun rights".

That said, there is a definite and quantifiable voting gap between men and women on issues of liberty.

So...you think that most other dads were like you in raising their daughters? You don't think many, many more were like my own in only focusing on their son when it came time to teach about guns and go on hunting/shooting trips?

My experience and observation would say that you're an exception, possibly even an outlier--especially in the Northeastern part of the US.

Not to mention that this is very superficial reasoning when there are so many other factors--one of them being the many men in our gov't who passed laws to make men less and less relevant in a family. Men who want to emasculate other men...but who do it through laws and social engineering.

 

[Original_Intent]

Ha ha, threadwinner! Not entirely fair or accurate as to get that ratio you have to look at Republicans only, but still, very skillful.

I wonder if we took the entire Senate, and saw what proportion of women vs. men supported the filibuster what our picture would look like?

 

[sailingaway]

These polls are absolute BS. Immigration too. They don't ask what makes a difference to people then they put it in the bill as if it doesn't matter. Such as, ask women 'do you think a doctor should without telling a patient be able to put someone on a list so they can't get a gun for whatever reason they have even if they are just anti gun themselves?' and I would hope the vast majority of ANY one would say no. But they don't ask that, and they put it in the bill.

They sometimes take polls to find out where people are, but when it is AFTER they have the bill up, imho it is ONLY to get the answer they want to push their agenda, and they ask the sampling and questions necessary to get the answer they want.

Call me cynical.

 

[amy31416]

Genteel ladies have causes...

So do men.

Women didn't have the vote yet when the Federal Reserve Act was created and passed. Good job fellas--thanks for that!

 

[ninepointfive]

Women didn't have the vote yet when the Federal Reserve Act was created and passed. Good job fellas--thanks for that!

anytime ;-)

just found this. Let's settle it once and for all!