Texas Convention Report - Party leadership sends a spy to Ron Paul gathering

[orafi]

she is the manifestation of sex

MMM!

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Were these people ever willing to give up their power???
We won Louisiana fair and square, they broke FIVE of their own party rules to keep us shut out of their convention.
You make those statements without a sense of where we have been with these people.
Don't believe their bullshit. You were never welcomed to the table.
Of course we shouldn't use stealth, we should show up with a rope and tree and pitchforks!, say follow the rules or be removed.
We played by the rules and remained peaceful in Louisiana, we got nothing but disrespect and exclusion.

Fair enough, but I was hearing rumours of the stealth tactics while I was still in Hawaii, before LA. The question is, did the criminls who shut you out hear the same rumours, and was that the self-justification for their dirty tricks?

I look forward to seeing the timelines.

 

[torchbearer]

Fair enough, but I was hearing rumours of the stealth tactics while I was still in Hawaii, before LA. The question is, did the criminls who shut you out hear the same rumours, and was that the self-justification for their dirty tricks?

I look forward to seeing the timelines.

No- we weren't being stealth, nor were there any rumors.
We were very in-your-face about who we were the whole time.
What tipped off the LAGOP was the large influx of registered republicans before the Nov30th deadline.
They knew that we were Ron Paul supporters.
At the caucus they brought a voter list that ended at Nov1st.

If you are trying to rewrite history into making it look like our "stealth" ideas were the cause of their abuse you are seriously fucked in the head.
I was on the ground. In those very trenches.. this bullshit they've been talking about more recently wasn't even in the playbook at that stage of the game.
In Louisiana, we knew we had the numbers to win, we didn't need any games.
They knew they were going to lose, they played the stealth games.
Where do you think we learned that from?
The "Ronald Reagan Pro-life Slate" that was filled with stealth McCain people.
We talked about that tactic here on the forum, it was that idea that later spurred the ideas of stealth slates that we did indeed use in other states like Missouri.
To great effect.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

No- we weren't being stealth, nor were there any rumors.
We were very in-your-face about who we were the whole time.
What tipped off the LAGOP was the large influx of registered republicans before the Nov30th deadline.
They knew that we were Ron Paul supporters.
At the caucus they brought a voter list that ended at Nov1st.

Well, there were rumours where I was.

If you are trying to rewrite history into making it look like our "stealth" ideas were the cause of their abuse you are seriously fucked in the head.

I would agree if I was trying to rewrite history, mainly I am trying to understand. The whole "stealth" tactic rubbed me wrong from the beginning, but, I more, or less, kept my mouth shut because I was not involved in the delegate process and knew I had a lot of catching up to do to try to understand what was happening. It wasn't until after NV that I began to suspect the "stealth tactics" were backfiring. That is why I keep wanting to see timelines. I suspect the "stealth" campaign is partially at fault for some of our failures. I look forward to understanding if that is true, or not.

I was on the ground. In those very trenches.. this bullshit they've been talking about more recently wasn't even in the playbook at that stage of the game.
In Louisiana, we knew we had the numbers to win, we didn't need any games.
They knew they were going to lose, they played the stealth games.
Where do you think we learned that from?
The "Ronald Reagan Pro-life Slate" that was filled with stealth McCain people.
We talked about that tactic here on the forum, it was that idea that later spurred the ideas of stealth slates that we did indeed use in other states like Missouri.
To great effect.

How many delegates did we get from MO? and what were our other successes? I'm sorry I don't know off-hand...

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Were these people ever willing to give up their power???
We won Louisiana fair and square, they broke FIVE of their own party rules to keep us shut out of their convention.
You make those statements without a sense of where we have been with these people.
Don't believe their bullshit. You were never welcomed to the table.
Of course we shouldn't use stealth, we should show up with a rope and tree and pitchforks!, say follow the rules or be removed.
We played by the rules and remained peaceful in Louisiana, we got nothing but disrespect and exclusion.

I appreciate seeing you hammer this point over and over. It was true before most of us knew it. It's true now. And it will be true later.