Terbolizard was arrested for DUI this weekend??

[Wyurm]

Go easy folks. We are not robots. Humans are bound to make a mistake. He will pay for his and its not our right or our duty to judge him for being human.

+1 well said

 

[yongrel]

What?, you've never skinny-dipped?, or driven a mile over the speed limit, or ...

Hhhhmmmmm...

Correct. To my knowledge, I have never broken any laws. There remains the distinct possibility that I am in violation of an obscure law pertaining to drinking egg nog on a Sunday while wearing a sweater though.

But I digress. Mr. Terbolizard made an astonishingly poor choice. I don't care whether he drank a wine cooler on an empty stomach or a keg of god-knows-what after a hearty meal of bratwurst and sauerkraut. The fact of the matter is that his blood-alcohol level was above the legal limit while he was driving, and he admitted to this.

This does not mean he is anything but a swell guy. Having never met him, I am going to assume he's a decent bloke. I'm glad that he has admitted his mistake, but that changes nothing in my mind.

When I vote for someone, I do it because I expect them to be a person of good judgment among other things. Terbolizard has displayed an unfortunate absence of this virtue by deciding to drive intoxicated, and as such I cannot in good conscience support him.

 

[bj72]

the sad part is the last congressman from this district (dolittle) was one of the worst in washington. he was absolutely horrible.

Are you speaking about John Doolittle? Are you in Roseville area?

I worked for him in 1995 in DC, then left to go into advertising. It was my first job after college. He started off okay. I remember liking that he wouldn't be alone with any female staffers as to protect his marriage from temptation and the appearance of any wrong doing (that was before being alone with male staffers could create talk too, lol).

I didn't keep up and when checked him out this year on google was sad and surprised to see all the scandal around him. Not to mention, Kevin Ring and Gretchen Moss named in articles...they were my co-workers. Glad I left when I did. My husband said that I might not have "seen the light" had I stayed in DC all these years. Unfortunately it is a rare person who does and isn't dragged down by it. Ron Paul is one of a handful that has managed not to wallow in the mud with the rest of them.

 

[bj72]

BTW, I loved his constituents. They were always so very nice and friendly when I met them and gave tours

 

[MrZach]

Actually you wouldn't because there are so many laws on the books that no one even knows exist and have no idea that they are in fact breaking the law

IT STILL MAKES YOU A CRIMINAL

DUI laws arethe complete opposite of a free society

I have not hurt another person
They arrest on the fact that you MAY hurt someone or yourself granted in severe cases there is perfectly good reason

how bout we make breathalyzers standard equipment on EVERY VEHICLE it will make us safer

Thats like saying we should search everyone for drugs

or like saying we should TAP EVERYONE'S PHONE CUZ WE MIGHT FIND A BADGUY

shit they might as well arrest everyon because you MIGHT END UP HURTING SOMEONE EVENTUALLY

Driving isn't a right. It is a privilege. You have to get a driver's license to drive. You don't HAVE to drive - you voluntarily drive, therefore you voluntarily submit yourself to the regulations on driving. You cannot operate a motor vehicle without a license, therefore if you voluntarily obtain said license (at which point you are basically signing a contract to obey the regulations) and operate the massive and highly deadly piece of machinery and violate your license agreement - you can be CRIMINALLY punished however the State that granted your the license or privileged of operating your vehicle on their roadways sees fit.

I happen to be a HUGE fan of DUI laws. In fact, I think they should be must stricter.

 

[Revolution9]

I happen to be a HUGE fan of DUI laws. In fact, I think they should be must stricter.

I am a huge fan of freedom . I think the ways the jackboots can use to stop you, fuck up your llfe and leave you in virtual chains should be restricted. I have no use for yellers like you backing up flaw reinforcement.

Driving is a professional occupation. Travelling is allowed inder the Constitution and needs no permiture or licensing. Roll those marbles around in your jackboot loving brain..

HTH
Randy

Regards
Randy

 

[angelatc]

Driving isn't a right. It is a privilege. You have to get a driver's license to drive. You don't HAVE to drive - you voluntarily drive, therefore you voluntarily submit yourself to the regulations on driving. You cannot operate a motor vehicle without a license, therefore if you voluntarily obtain said license (at which point you are basically signing a contract to obey the regulations) and operate the massive and highly deadly piece of machinery and violate your license agreement - you can be CRIMINALLY punished however the State that granted your the license or privileged of operating your vehicle on their roadways sees fit.

I happen to be a HUGE fan of DUI laws. In fact, I think they should be must stricter.

Driving should be a freaking right. I pay taxes to build roads, don't I? As long as I buy a car that should be the end of the state's involvement. You, on the other hand, have a right to stay home if the world scares you.

The mass media has done its job on this issue. I agree with the person you quoted. It's a victimless crime. Punishing people because somebody *might* get hurt is pretty darned socialist.

And the science behind the Federally enforced .08 limit is flawed, as usual.

 

[Itzsoez]

arrested NOT convicted.

some of you have convicted him before his trial.
you must think that cops only arrest guilty people.

 

[Wyurm]

We have a wide array of people here ranging from liberty-minded, long-time political activists who are seasoned, all the way to complete noobs that sound more statist or collectivist but like the message of liberty though not fully understanding it. I don't want to offend any of them and everyone is entitled to make choices based on personal values. However, we are at a pivotal moment in history and making the wrong choice here will affect what happens to you later on.

Essentially, this movement is late in peaking. This needs to have happened years ago, but it hasn't been until recently that the obvious attacks on our rights have really grown to undeniable levels. It just saddens me to see people that will look at this, make a moral judgement to not support him and instead allow their rights to be taken away. I'm not saying we should applaud what he did. What he did was likely wrong and dangerous. However, if you have one guy acting as your bodyguard against 3 people who want to kill you, and you find out that he has done something morally offensive to you. Are you really going to tell him to stop defending you and sacrifice yourself for your moral beliefs? That is essentially what you are doing here and that makes horribly little sense to me.

 

[FireofLiberty]

Actually, as far as driving goes, if you own your car it is YOUR property and therefore you have certain PROPERTY RIGHTS that go along with it.

 

[Paulitical Correctness]

you must think that cops only arrest guilty people.

Sadly, this is a common misconception.

 

[LandonCook]

"Terbolizard Disassociates with Hollywood Celeb DUIs
Ted Terbolizard, a republican congressional candidate running for the 4th district (Northeastern California) in the June election, was arrested in Grass Valley over the weekend on suspicion of drunken driving. Normally, we would not report on a potential congressman who has not much to do in Los Angeles. Beside his name being Terbolizard (we love it), that he is a fervent Ron Paul fan and the fact that he actually blogs and loves the arts, he gets one of those "politicians say the darndest things" awards after his defense of the recent arrest. Courtesy of the Sacremento Bee's Capitol Alert blog via the candidate's blog:

"It's not like the sort of Lindsay Lohan story or Nicole Ritchie (sic) story where I was driving 5 mph the wrong way on the freeway with the doors open and a car full of narcotics, it was absolutley (sic) nothing like that; no car crash or anything." [Capitol Alert]
Heh, "...with doors open and a car full of narcotics." Classic. He was later quoted saying “The press will have a hard time ignoring this.” We almost did ignore it until he brought Hollywood in. And as one commenter on his blog said, we're "glad you are alright and hope you can learn from this.” At this point, that's what is important. "

on the suspicion? WTF?

 

[FireofLiberty]

on the suspicion? WTF?

This is often code for he refused to blow on the straw.

 

[Eponym_mi]

I happen to be a HUGE fan of DUI laws. In fact, I think they should be must stricter.

DUI laws are unneeded. Stiffer penalties for property damage and personal injury would be just as much of a deterrent.

 

[DealzOnWheelz]

When I vote for someone, I do it because I expect them to be a person of good judgment among other things. Terbolizard has displayed an unfortunate absence of this virtue by deciding to drive intoxicated, and as such I cannot in good conscience support him.

then you shouldn't support ron paul because he allowed his good judgement to be lost when the newsletters were printed in his name

 

[MrZach]

A car is an extremely dangerous and deadly piece of machinery. I have no problem with there being restrictions and regulations on it. Even with all that, automobile accidents are one of the leading causes of death in America. So... we should make it even less regulated, making the roads even LESS safe is what you're saying, right? What planet are you living on?

During the 4 years I was in high school, I ran out of fingers to count the number of friends I had die in automobile accidents - alcohol was involved in the majority of them, and not always on the part of my friends. One of my closest friends was in a coma for almost 6 months and now has severe brain damage, limited motor function and speech capability.

So... what you're basically arguing is that we should wait until AFTER people are dead and brain damaged...?

When a police officer pulls someone over and arrests them for a DUI - they are SAVING LIVES.

Get educated. Ger real.
http://www.statisticstop10.com/Causes_of_Death_Young_Adults.html
http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/causes.html
http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/people/kpfleger/auto/causes_of_death.html
http://www.usroads.com/journals/p/rilj/9712/ri971204.htm
http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/
http://www.weitzlux.com/motorvehiclecrashes/leadingcauseofdeath_960.html

 

[Johncjackson]

1) Yes, we can be judgemental.
2) DUI is not a minor thing
3) DUI is not at all equivalent to being gay or having an affair.
4) DUI is a criminal offense that endangers the innocents around you.
5) With a recent DUI under his belt, Terbolizard's campaign is effectively over already.

DUI is a "pre-crime." No one has actually been harmed.

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! You people wouldn't vote for the man because he got a DWI???

Kennedy killed a woman and ran, his brother wrecked his car and the police helped him escape. Bush did Cocaine, my Senator Vitter was caught with a prostitute.

Personally, none of that (well maybe Ted Kennedy) bothers me. What bothers me is that our politicians STEAL our money in the name of Patriotism. They debase our currency for the benefit of the elite and the destruction of the middle class.

Many of these "angelic" politicians who have never done anything wrong legally are the most evil.

A simple DWI is NOTHING compared to what our current politicians do.

When 2 beers is the legal limit to drive a car, something is wrong.
When 3 DWI's makes you a Felon, on the same level with murderers rapists and thieves, something is wrong.

When 6 Beers and a car can technically make sure you never receive a passport, can take away your second amendment rights, and take your drivers license for good, something is VERY wrong....

I am firmly opposed to the current DWI laws.

 

[LandonCook]

Ah..guilty of having had a drink before driving as hundreds of thousands do daily. But how many is the key. he probably was not drunk. Drunk would be irresponsible. Having three or four drinks and a conversation should be fine but isn't. They want you to sit at the bar for an hour every drink you have to be legal..

I had a DUI in 1984 for two glasses of wine. The cop didn't like how i was dressed, looked in the window and told me "Yer goin' to jail boy" I had .07 but the call is the officers jurisdiction. i did not know enough at that point to fight it properly so I pleaded nolo contendre. meanwhile while the cop was harassing me a guy who was puking in the parking lot by his mustang came out of the parking lot and whipped right by the cop.. But hey..he had his revenue for the night and could retire to the station for paperwork and coffee and slacktime.

Best Regards
Randy

Thankyou for reminding me why I hate cops...

 

[LandonCook]

This is often code for he refused to blow on the straw.

You see, he is much better than most politicans who blow on much bigger things than straws...