Tell me about Ted Cruz.

[T.hill]

Rand Paul went to Israel and in a speech said that America cannot continue to keep giving aid to other countries, even Israel itself. In the filibuster he narrowed the discussion to certain issues, but it doesn't mean he compromised.

 

[RonRocks]

'Any Attack On Israel Will Be Treated As An Attack On The United States' -- Rand Paul

Hmm, why does Israel get to have this special privilege? This is the crux of it.. no one pays taxes to the US there, do they? A small slip on principle here, a slip there, and next thing you know, we've come full circle.

 

[T.hill]

'Any Attack On Israel Will Be Treated As An Attack On The United States' -- Rand Paul

Hmm, why does Israel get to have this special privilege? This is the crux of it.. no one pays taxes to the US there, do they? A small slip on principle here, a slip there, and next thing you know, we've come full circle.

That's a legitimate concern, I can't contest that.

 

[T.hill]

'Any Attack On Israel Will Be Treated As An Attack On The United States' -- Rand Paul

Hmm, why does Israel get to have this special privilege? This is the crux of it.. no one pays taxes to the US there, do they? A small slip on principle here, a slip there, and next thing you know, we've come full circle.

However I am just pointing out that the majority of your concerns are largely unfounded.

 

[RonRocks]

However I am just pointing out that the majority of your concerns are largely unfounded.

Do you remember May 2007? The infamous Paul smackdown of Guliani.
And who did Ron get to back him up? Michael Schuer, Ex head of the BL unit.. Remember what he said? Our support of Israel is the cause of the blowback and the anger in the Muslim world, the biggest reason there could be more terrorist attacks.

What about 17% flat income tax on someone earning $20,000 Gross pay? Will that give the poorest amongst us more liberty or less? Consumption tax is one thing, and I think it's pretty fair, because it's transparent every time you go to the store, and you have a choice. But this? The government takes even more from the poorest, with coercion? How about taking less from everyone? Money doesn't come easy to the lowest earners. These are two HUGE issues, not my idea of libertarianism.

 

[itshappening]

'Any Attack On Israel Will Be Treated As An Attack On The United States' -- Rand Paul

Hmm, why does Israel get to have this special privilege? This is the crux of it.. no one pays taxes to the US there, do they? A small slip on principle here, a slip there, and next thing you know, we've come full circle.

Brian Doherty of Reason suggested Rand is trying to blunt neocon attacks by giving such a statement as he believes they successfully painted Ron as anti-semetic due to not showing sufficient support for Israel.

Cruz is a bit of a neocon...

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/ted-cruzs-foreign-policy-and-the-paul-demint-caucus/

Sounds like he wants a confrontation with Iran

 

[itshappening]

I did say Rand was great in his filibuster.. Rail against the Patriot Act/NDAA? Yes, but that's my issue, he could have gotten tough on those issues, especially this week. Instead, we got a 'well, America is not a battle zone..those other places are, so yeah..its okay over there'. All foreign aid? Right! More like to those darn pesky muslim countries like Egypt because they're burning our flag. I want you to tell me where he mentions Israel, our biggest welfare queen. Ron laid it down in plain terms, no foreign aid to ANYONE, period!

You need to understand the people Rand is talking to... he's talking to "conservatives" not a libertarian convention.

He's got them cheering to end foreign aid. Ha! They've been punked. He does it by highlighting that the aid is going to some terrible regimes and anti-semetic ones too. Supporters of Israel are starting to see the stupidity of it.

Rand is also talking to neocon talk show hosts and interviewers. He's not going to go on some libertarian crusade. He's trying to win the GOP nomination. He does it in a subtle way.

Ron laid it down in plain terms but he never got close to the nomination. Conservatives would overlook him and choose anyone but him.. Santorum, Gingrich, Romney, it didn't matter. They managed to paint him as anti-Israel. Rand wants to sound like a dear friend of Israel.

 

[sailingaway]

This thread is about Cruz, right?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

The third best senator we have.

 

[PatriotOne]

The third best senator we have.

I hope so. I really, really do.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Do you remember May 2007? The infamous Paul smackdown of Guliani.
And who did Ron get to back him up? Michael Schuer, Ex head of the BL unit.. Remember what he said? Our support of Israel is the cause of the blowback and the anger in the Muslim world, the biggest reason there could be more terrorist attacks.

What about 17% flat income tax on someone earning $20,000 Gross pay? Will that give the poorest amongst us more liberty or less? Consumption tax is one thing, and I think it's pretty fair, because it's transparent every time you go to the store, and you have a choice. But this? The government takes even more from the poorest, with coercion? How about taking less from everyone? Money doesn't come easy to the lowest earners. These are two HUGE issues, not my idea of libertarianism.

I'll take a flat tax of more like 5%. Cut the freaking spending. Rand is kind of failing there...

I mean, he's a conservative with an actually sane foreign policy. He's going to get my vote. But he's still disappointing me on a few issues, including this one and the Israel thing.

 

[cocrehamster]

I'll take a flat tax of more like 5%. Cut the freaking spending. Rand is kind of failing there...

I mean, he's a conservative with an actually sane foreign policy. He's going to get my vote. But he's still disappointing me on a few issues, including this one and the Israel thing.

His budget balances in 5 years, I'm OK with 17% flat for 5 years and once the budget is balanced it can be cut as revenue increases wit GDP, or even cut before its balanced as long as it stays on track.

 

[randpaul2016]

Santorum endorsed Rand eventually too. Once his favorite person loses, he goes to the other side.

source?

 

[TokenLibertarianGuy]

source?

I've only seen that Santorum endorsed Grayson.

 

[Pisces]

If you have time to listen to a 36 minute interview, I think you can learn more about Cruz from this interview. It starts out with Hagel and Iran but after that it gets better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvBdZBl4u7I