Teen gets a year in jail. The gov't counselor who raped her gets probation.

[jbrace]

Forced rape is one of those area's I strongly advocate a death penalty.

I agree.

 

[teacherone]

i'm cool with unforced rape myself...

 

[angelatc]

What do you even say to something like this?

It's a shame this happened in Manhattan, where some asshole judge sentences him to probation. They should make him spend 10 minutes in a room with her Dad.

You have to read the whole article. I cried.

She wasn't a child of the streets, but her parents died, and she ended up in a rough neighborhood where she was a target for the natives.

She went to juvie only because she wouldn't tell the cops who beat her up.

Sentenced to one year, she ended up having 3 because she turned into a bitter cynical smart ass who mouthed off to the counselors, probably because of the rape.

While she was in juvie, her adoptive parents died.

So she doesn't have a Dad.

 

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

The Wergild and/or Bride Price for this OUGHT to be rather large. He violated her and as such SHOULD have to pay restitution in one form or another (I'm okay with Indentured Servitude personally). As it is, he'll simply go to another state and become an employee of the Prison-Industrial Complex somewhere else.

 

[johngr]

i'm cool with unforced rape myself...

Have you been raping statues again?

 

[Soca Taliban]

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!
If that was my daughter or relative, I'd probably end up in jail, because I'd go after the judge, rapist, and prosecutor.

 

[Baptist]

Tony Simmons

 

[Icymudpuppy]

Where's Dexter when you need him?

 

[pcosmar]

Apparently the parents don't own a gun.

 

[MelissaWV]

Tony Simmons

I have no idea why so many people look a bit surprised in their mugshots.

 

[KCIndy]

Apparently the parents don't own a gun.

She was/is an orphan. She had no one to look out for her.

 

[Pericles]

Apparently the parents don't own a gun.

Odds are against it in NYC - travel to Texas would be bad for the perp's health - just sayin'.

 

[Philhelm]

So we can add the raping of our nation's children to our list of grievances against the government...

 

[pcosmar]

She was/is an orphan. She had no one to look out for her.

Apparently not when it initially happened,

Just moments after being violated, Ashley was seated next to her mother and before the judge. She was too shocked and terrified to report the attack.

Perhaps by the time the case was heard,,
Or there are discrepancies in the story.

Still disgusting. and unfortunately not rare.

 

[pcosmar]

So we can add the raping of our nation's children to our list of grievances against the government...

That is one of the disgusting legacies of MK-Ultra.

Already on my list.

 

[KCIndy]

Apparently not when it initially happened,

Perhaps by the time the case was heard,,
Or there are discrepancies in the story.

Still disgusting. and unfortunately not rare.

The story was very poorly written. Looks like something out of a freshman journalism class... but I digress with my grumpy critique.

I'm guessing - guessing here - that the "mother" at the trial was actually the foster mother.

This is from the second page of the article:

While pondering Simmons' probation for the courthouse rape the day she got 12 months, Ashley notes that she actually served nearly three years.

She is not of the streets and that made her the target of kids who were. And, as the shock of the rape turned to anger, she often talked back to counselors.

"You say something, they throw you on the floor; 60 days, 90 days, 120 days added to your sentence," she said.

She was already an orphan and she had lost her adoptive parents as well by the time she was released. She nevertheless kept on track, getting a perfect score on her GED exam and enrolling in a professional program at a prestigious university.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like she was from a suburban/rural area, probably middle class, lost her parents, got adopted into an "urban" environment, ran into this mess, and by the time she got out of prison on the trumped up charges, she had lost her adoptive parents as well....

I know that's a lot of assumptions, but that's the picture I'm seeing here. It could definitely use a follow up story with more info.

Very very sad, no matter what the circumstances...

 

[Kylie]

This is insane. The system totally ruined this childs life.


If I were a child, I would be willing to fight to the death not to be taken into custody by any government official. This is end result of trusting .gov.


I don't think I could feel any worse, or more full of rage. This story needs to be cross-posted everywhere.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Dont know what to say.... fuck the government and fuck the police feels about right though...

Oh, so you're one of those radical leftists who describe themselves as a libertarian but are really nothing but an America Hating Commie?



http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=263163

 

[Kotin]

Oh, so you're one of those radical leftists who describe themselves as a libertarian but are really nothing but an America Hating Commie?



http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=263163

That's me.

 

[KurtBoyer25L]

This story illuminates how the government has helped destroy standards of sexual morality. By bowing to religious & pharmaceutical interests and making the consent, motivation, choices and financial well-being of anyone under age X completely nil, ignored & unspoken in a legal context, they have actually abolished, legally, the qualitative difference between a violent rape and consensual sex. The "real" crime, according to our society and current law, is that this evil screwjob touched a 15 year old woman who is the property of her father or her parents or (of course) of the State. The facts that he traumatized & tortured her, that she didn't want to do it & was threatened with her death...are secondary.

In fact it may be argued that our society now wishes to punish sex as the most heinous and evil of all wrongs. Read the comments about a murderer, sentenced to life in prison, or a violent rape/killer of an adult woman on death row. People generally seem to find these sentences adequate & fair. But read the comments about any guy who, consensually & peacefully, runs away with the head JV cheerleader from a white/wealthy high school and the comments are more disturbing. "Send the bastard to jail forever, rape him every day and tear out his eyes and dump vinegar in the sockets, then execute him!" Very rarely do people point out the cruelty or hypocrisy of such statements, and sex criminals who are in prison for nonviolent acts *are* raped, tortured, and killed, far more often than murderers are. And how many of us harbor such pure hatred and bloodlust against warmongering, genocidal politicians? Sex has become a greater crime than killing, or starting wars.

Persons gulity of these sick, cruel, horrible rapes such as our buddy in this thread are aided in their escape through laws that make my first date with my girlfriend, who was under 18 at the time, qualitatively the same crime as the violent rape of a minor. Despite all the hatred, fear & taboo we are still compelled to keep some fairness, some common sense in our laws, but even that becomes perverted. Raping an orphan is "safer" for the violent/coercive rapist than raping the aforementioned property-of-her-father. Raping a black girl is also less likely to bring about severe punishment. Because our laws have to bend SO much to allow for exceptions to be made for common sense -- and for racist/religious superstition -- it's now possible for the violent rapist of a minor to get off with probation. he is seen legally much the same as a guy who dated a 15 year old orphan. And that's wrong. If we made *violence* our worst possible crime, instead of sex, our friend would be in prison for a very long time, for his cruel violence and forcible rape of an innocent girl. No violent sex offender should benefit from laws designed to keep R. Kelly out of prison while appeasing our legions of superstitious hypocrites in charge.