I think Rand will be strong regardless due to the grassroots support along with him bridging the gap. He's going to be one of the guys you gotta beat regardless. I just think the grassroots need to head off any challenge from within our own perceived circle before it starts by educating folks with the information warlord provided. Because that's what they're going to try and do, divide and conquer. I hate it's gotta be this way but its best those in the early states start letting the peeps know what's up before the media manufactures Cruz's poll numbers into Rands current numbers. Then good luck working on that from there. PPP is obviously going to start this as I believe another polling firm did for Santorum just weeks before Iowa. If PPP don't do it someone else will create the artificial surge of a man that most have never heard of.
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Hmm...it was a radio interview I heard a couple of weeks back. Thought it was Coburn but it may have been Inhofe. The main thing that stuck with me was the Senator having a problem with Rand's military/foreign policy and his strident belief in us INCREASING our already ridiculous military spending. He then goes on about how Cruz was totally in agreement with him about beefing up the military.
I'd believe that. I really think Cruz is going to be Rand's biggest hurdle in gaining traction to win the nomination unless he's ruled in eligible like he should be..
I suspect Cruz will be the only one who can run to the "RIGHT" of Rand. Not truly more conservative (less gov/more constitution) but more the "Conservatism" the current GoP believes in...Less Gov for Dem issues more Gov for Gop issues. Already think he is taking a more GoP friendly stance on Military, Immigration, treating Isreal like 51st state....he seems to send mixed signals on how interventionist he is and on how much he believes in civil liberties.
I actually believe that Santorum can cause a serious issue for Rand. He tends to be left out of the polling for some reason. Santorum might consolidate the Big Gov Christian vote as well as the anti-Rand vote. I think just like anti-Romney people were desperately switching from one candidate to another to try to derail Frontrunner Romney in Iowa....the same will happen if Rand is the presumed frontrunner. There is probably 10-20% of the GoP that are vehemently anti-Paul and Santorum might catch that along with the Christian fundamentalist vote.
I think Rand needs Iowa to build early momentum and possibly to decide whether to keep trying or to drop out for a Senatorial run.
I actually believe that Santorum can cause a serious issue for Rand. He tends to be left out of the polling for some reason. Santorum might consolidate the Big Gov Christian vote as well as the anti-Rand vote. I think just like anti-Romney people were desperately switching from one candidate to another to try to derail Frontrunner Romney in Iowa....the same will happen if Rand is the presumed frontrunner. There is probably 10-20% of the GoP that are vehemently anti-Paul and Santorum might catch that along with the Christian fundamentalist vote.
I think Rand needs Iowa to build early momentum and possibly to decide whether to keep trying or to drop out for a Senatorial run.
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@Aratus- Paul Ryan is such a joke. He bragged about "Raising spending on food stamps 10% less in a decade (That's 260% instead of 270%)". Granted, he's probably less bad than Mitt Romney, but then, so would a tree stump or Barack Obama (In that order, BTW.)
If Ted Cruz isn't for cutting the military I'm DEFINITELY not a supporter.
If Ted Cruz isn't for cutting the military I'm DEFINITELY not a supporter.
I think given how well Ron did in Iowa, Rand being younger, better looking, better speaking etc... Rand stands a very VERY good shot at winning Iowa and obviously the delegate race also due to the Paul structure already in place. I agree though a candidate like Santorum will always have a shot in Iowa just like Huckabee. However, I also see this hurting the other establishment candidates just as bad or worse than Rand. Rand's in a great position really he just has to drive it home!
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What about Santorum ISN'T establishment?
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He really should clarify his stance on foreign policy
we are almost at the point where mitch mcconnell hints at likely veeps to Rand,
should he be a total boldness in 2016 and not run for the KY senate seat he has...
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Yeah, until he does I oppose him. Then again, he's already one of the ninety-eight traitors because of his views on giving medical data to the FEDS!
If Ron Paul became President tomorrow, and a new congress was filled with liberty minded people (NOT like Cruz) Cruz would deserve Nuremberg Trial along with all the other treacherous support of the establishment.
I've questioned whether my support for Rand Paul is well placed. But support for Cruz is DEFINITELY not well placed. That he's even talking about running for President is just more proof that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's not on our team. And we should reject him.
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How exactly is it libertarian to give Cruz a "Nuremberg Trial"? Isn't that actually ultra-authoritarian?
He gave data to the federal government, yes. That was one vote. I don't understand your obsession with it. He's made dozens of great votes so far.
If you want to know his positions on the Patriot Act and foreign policy, then you should email him.
http://www.cruz.senate.gov/contact.cfm
http://www.tedcruz.org/contact-us/
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The no ex post facto rule is incompatible with libertarianism.
As for emailing him, perhaps I will. Would he actually answer?
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Some representative of his probably will answer. Not sure about his campaign site though, that's been dead for a while.
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My main concern with Cruz is that he is ambitious and calculating to the point that I have a hard time reading him. He's obviously smart enough to have a nuanced view on policy but everything he says is simple red meat for the base.
On the plus side, he probably isn't the type that has to backtrack and reexplain controversial statements like Rand.
On the plus side, he probably isn't the type that has to backtrack and reexplain controversial statements like Rand.
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