Ted Cruz: The Most Hawkish of Them All?

[Krugminator2]

Look, whereas Dick Cheney would like to overthrow Assad and attempt nation building in Syria, Ted Cruz would send the Air Force in and destroy their weapons stockpile.

Both are interventionist, but one is neoconservative (or "Wilsonian") and the other is more "Jacksonian". Walter Russell Meade's paradigm is worth looking into: http://libertycircle.blogspot.com/2013/10/walter-russell-meads-interesting.html

You can't bomb chemical weapons without harming the people who live nearby. I know nothing about that kind of stuff, but I remember Cruz getting ridiculed for having that view and I think he eventually changed it.

I consider myself a big tent libertarian and I generally like Cruz. (Though even on domestic issues he is considerably worse than Rand.) But his foreign policy would be a Mark Levin/Donald Rumsfeld foreign policy. That is pretty clear.

 

[TaftFan]

You can't bomb chemical weapons without harming the people who live nearby. I know nothing about that kind of stuff, but I remember Cruz getting ridiculed for having that view and I think he eventually changed it.

I consider myself a big tent libertarian and I generally like Cruz. (Though even on domestic issues he is considerably worse than Rand.) But his foreign policy would be a Mark Levin/Donald Rumsfeld foreign policy. That is pretty clear.

The thing is, I am not saying Cruz is a libertarian, non-interventionist, perfect, or someone I want to run for President. I just think it is ignorant to throw everyone in either Bill Kristol or Ron Paul. There is a lot of room in between.

 

[Krugminator2]

The thing is, I am not saying Cruz is a libertarian, non-interventionist, perfect, or someone I want to run for President. I just think it is ignorant to throw everyone in either Bill Kristol or Ron Paul. There is a lot of room in between.

I agree with the last part. I certainly am more open to military intervention than most of the people here but I really don't know enough to have strong views on foreign policy.

And I doubt Ted Cruz had strong foreign policy views coming into the Senate. It looks like he has been influenced along the way to be very hawkish. Bill Kristol has been praising his foreign policy. Winning Sheldon Adelson's favor is not good. It isn't just one thing. It is like a dozen different incidents that I have noticed that have convinced his foreign policy is terrible.

 

[twomp]

Look, whereas Dick Cheney would like to overthrow Assad and attempt nation building in Syria, Ted Cruz would send the Air Force in and destroy their weapons stockpile.

Both are interventionist, but one is neoconservative (or "Wilsonian") and the other is more "Jacksonian". Walter Russell Meade's paradigm is worth looking into: http://libertycircle.blogspot.com/2013/10/walter-russell-meads-interesting.html

During that Syrian issue, Ted Cruz said nothing about air-strikes to destroy their weapons. He said he wanted to send a team in to secure it. This conversation is pointless because Obama (who is a hawk himself) was able to get those weapons destroyed without a shot fired.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

And I doubt Ted Cruz had strong foreign policy views coming into the Senate. It looks like he has been influenced along the way to be very hawkish. Bill Kristol has been praising his foreign policy. Winning Sheldon Adelson's favor is not good. It isn't just one thing. It is like a dozen different incidents that I have noticed that have convinced his foreign policy is terrible.

Cruz and his wife have a close relationship with Condoleeza Rice....

Rice, who has been endorsing various GOP Senate candidates in the upcoming races this year and fundraising, says a 2016 candidate for the top office must "understand the importance to this country of immigration and immigration reform." That's a view she shares with Bush and Rubio.

She also praised Ted Cruz, whose wife, Heidi, worked for Rice at the National Security Council. "While I don’t agree with Ted Cruz on everything, he’s energetic, he’s working hard, he loves his country," she said. "From time to time when we disagree, I’ll tell him."
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http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Jeb-Bush-Condoleezza-Rice-president/2014/05/15/id/571538/

 

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Hanging out with Bill Kristol, Donald Rumsfeld, and Sheldon Adelson will fry your brain. Cruz is quickly becoming totally unacceptable.

Damn, is he trying to outdo peter king?

I think he's right, Ted Cruz has no major wing in his corner, except for Tea Party Twitter warriors. His record is not liberal enough for the pro Israel donors he needs to fund his campaign.

And with these 3 statements from various seasoned liberty lovers, I wish to no longer see any serious talk about Ted Cruz in 2016. If it hasn't been clearly obvious since the government shutdown, Ted Cruz's presidential poll base is just Tea Partiers who don't like Rand's bigger party x smaller government x bipartisanship message. Ted Cruz should do Rand a favor and run to drop out before Iowa and just give a Rand endorsement.

 

[Tyreez]

except for Rand, they are pretty much the same. maybe Kasish in between Rand and the others. but I don't see any difference between Cruz, or Huck or Jeb, or Perry.

Mike Huckbee's prolly better than ted. He wants to negotiate with Iran
"Huckabee has criticized the Bush administration for "only proceeding down one track with Iran: armed conflict". He noted that the US has "[not] had diplomatic relations with Iran in almost 30 years, and a lot of good it's done"."

 

[William Tell]

And with these 3 statements from various seasoned liberty lovers, I wish to no longer see any serious talk about Ted Cruz in 2016. If it hasn't been clearly obvious since the government shutdown, Ted Cruz's presidential poll base is just Tea Partiers who don't like Rand's bigger party x smaller government x bipartisanship message. Ted Cruz should do Rand a favor and run to drop out before Iowa and just give a Rand endorsement.

I could be wrong though, its possible that certain groups will fund Cruz to play spoiler against Rand.

 

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