Ted Cruz sets sights on Rand Paul’s libertarian base

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Ted Cruz sets sights on Rand Paul’s libertarian base

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NASHUA, N.H. — He’s sliding in the polls, struggling to raise money — and now the only base he has left is starting to wobble.

Rand Paul returned to what should have been home turf on Friday when he appeared at the Republican Liberty Caucus, a gathering of libertarian activists in New Hampshire. And while he was a crowd favorite, there is an intensifying buzz around rival Ted Cruz, even from ideological purists still pining for Rand’s dad, Ron.

“Cruz is stronger, he’d have more spunk as president,” said Shirlene Van Doorne, 64, of Nashua, after the Texas senator delivered a rousing speech Friday morning, packed with libertarian themes he doesn’t often discuss. “With [Paul’s] father, it’s a different story. When he ran last time, he was more like Cruz, very strong.”

Both Cruz and Paul organized intensely for the event, which culminates in a straw poll Saturday night, and representatives for both candidates hovered around attendees with clipboards, urging them to vote. For Cruz, it’s the latest effort to encroach on Paul’s turf, a move that follows the roll-out of a libertarian-stacked team that includes people who backed Ron Paul in 2012.

And according to attendees, the strategy is working.

“Based on his morning speech, I like Cruz better and better all the time,” said Bob White, the chairman of the Florida chapter of the Republican Liberty Caucus. Paul is his first choice for now, he said, but “Cruz scored points with me. I’m still torn.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/ted-cruz-rand-pauls-libertarian-base-214630#ixzz3o849AZse
 
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Can you not post the link to the organization that has been on the attack for this entire Summer?
 
I'm going to make a point of doling out negative rep to anyone who links to Politico. And yes, the person who started this thread got some.
 
Well she managed to sneak in a few good paragraphs, thanks to Andy Samborn:

Paul, asked whether Cruz’s efforts could impact his chances, responded flatly, “no,” but also noted that he welcomed more candidates to the libertarian wing of the party.

“Both here and in Iowa we know where our support is, where my dad’s support was, and we feel comfortable that the overwhelming majority of it is with us,” he told reporters after a speech that culminated in a standing ovation and shouts of “President Paul!”

And Cruz is often out of step with true-believer libertarians who want to see reduced military intervention and much lower military spending, said state Sen. Andy Samborn, a New Hampshire chairman for Paul.

“He’s one of the several candidates who initially came out with this whole, ‘If you’re liberty, follow me because I’m liberty,’ but we’re seeing that the proof is in the pudding,” Sanborn said of Cruz. “Anyone can say they’re liberty and try to attract that vote, but when push comes to shove, Cruz has called for increased military action, he’s gone on the more hawkish side…being a hawkish type of candidate is not going to win over the liberty movement.”
 
LOL

If only Cruz had ever done anything for us, he might stand a chance of stealing something from Rand Paul. But, alas, all Cruz has ever done is ingratiate himself to politico.com...
 
Unless Cruz does a 180 on his foreign policy, this is one part of the base he will never get.
 
Unless Cruz does a 180 on his foreign policy, this is one part of the base he will never get.

I think he will. He must realize how ridiculous his current position is. He could be Rand's VP once he does that.
 
Politics makes strange bedfellows. Who is your pick ?

For most used-car-salesman-ilke, fake Conservative, guy who peaked fucking grotesque members of the high school debate team?

Cruz

For somebody who'll actually shrink government, and isn't a twat?

Yea, Rand.
 
For most used-car-salesman-ilke, fake Conservative, guy who peaked fucking grotesque members of the high school debate team?

Cruz

For somebody who'll actually shrink government, and isn't a twat?

Yea, Rand.

I was talking about the VP position :D
 
I tend to go back and forth between whether Ben Carson or Ted Cruz is my 2nd favorite of the GOP field, even though Cruz is constantly peeving me off with his antics and hyperbolic worship of all things Israel. I can say with full confidence that I don't think I could even stomach a vote for any of the others, though I had briefly mused over holding my nose for Trump before he began shifting his positions every 5 seconds.
 
^^^Am I hallucinating, or did you just say you actually considered giving something other than bottomless contempt to Trump?
 
I think he will. He must realize how ridiculous his current position is. He could be Rand's VP once he does that.

If that day ever came, I'd be in agreement on him as a VP pick. I just don't see it happening though. Foreign policy is probably the biggest issue right now and Cruz just loses me on that handily. Even if Cruz realizes his position is arrogant and tired, I can see a lot of people in the media frying him for changing his mind. Not to mention his peers in the debates. The peer pressure to stay the course is set on high.
 
The peer pressure to stay the course is set on high.

That's not something he wouldn't be able to handle. I really liked his performance on the Global Warming commission. This guy has balls, just needs some direction. I think Rand should invite him for a mano a mano conversation.
 
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