Teamsters president Sean O'Brien savages big business in RNC speech

[jmdrake]

A lot of top republicans would be happy losing, forever, until the republic fell.

I'm with [MENTION=30558]CaptUSA[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5574]sparebulb[/MENTION] on this, the right should have chasing the working man's vote for years now.

Especially now that the Democrat's constituency is naught more than queeers, communists, foreign invaders and unhinged female basket cases concerned only about how many babies they can kill and when they can kill them.

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[Anti Federalist]

AF’s entire purpose here is to make everything racial, as you, being his mindless cheerleader are well aware. And he’s more than happy to support marxism in so doing. In this thread, it’s his language, euphemistically calling the communist labor unions “working people” as if the rest of us got everything we have by inheritance and wage slavery, that’s marxist language, not mine.

Meh, that's what I would expect a leftarian would say.

I've explained everything I think for over 17 years now on this board.

I don't have the time or the inclination to go back over my points and reasoning to someone that will never listen to a word I say anyways, isn't that right, erowe?

So yes, I want to make it racial.

I want a Firearms Policy Coalition, for white people.

A PAC that will aggressively pursue and defend the interests and concerns of white people, and nobody but white people, with no capitulation, apology, exception or mincing of words.

https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/1813325765561180289

I feel very passionate, as a response to my experiences at Harvard, to inculcate a sense of Jewish pride and education within young people, so that when they do go to college campuses, they are not caught off guard. I want them to be proud, motivated and enthusiastic to spread Jewish ideals and to connect with their own Jewish identity.

https://forward.com/news/633231/sha...can-convention-antisemitism-harvard-democrat/

And how would Shabbos react if I changed every time he said "Jewish" to "White"?

 

[otherone]

Meh, that's what I would expect a leftarian would say.

I've explained everything I think for over 17 years now on this board.

I don't have the time or the inclination to go back over my points and reasoning to someone that will never listen to a word I say anyways, isn't that right, erowe?

So yes, I want to make it racial.

Did you just dead-name him?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Did you just dead-name him?

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://x.com/i/status/1813632275806101759

 

[LibertyEagle]

According to Cenk, Biden is out.

https://x.com/cenkuygur/status/1813750336001089755

 

[RJB]

Meh, that's what I would expect a leftarian would say.

So yes, I want to make it racial.

I wasn't trying to speak for you and I definitely know how you stand on issues. However that tactic he uses gives me a headache.

Early on on this forum that tactic worked to distract and shut down good debate on a number of issues. It still works to a degree outside the forum. It needs to stop. It's not just race that they use to distract from the point. They use other dishonest terms such as calling nonneocons neocons ect. Heck in this instant he called me a cheerleader as a tactical diversion to change the subject from his original tactical diversion.

He was correct in noting that it is ironically the working class issues that are bring people together and his instinct is to divide it with race, but that's how they operate.

Do I feel like I am using their tactics when I label them marxists? No. Marxist have no true ideology. They want to destroy the cultural "olds" anyway, with any means, with any people necessary. They can't debate the issues so they use any diversionary tactics from Rules for Radicals and other sources. It's worked well for them. Our society is falling because people don't speak their mind. I deteste seeing it happen. I no longer discuss politics with people who do that. I point out what they are doing and move on. It's better to debate with a snake.

 

[jmdrake]

A lot of top republicans would be happy losing, forever, until the republic fell.

I'm with [MENTION=30558]CaptUSA[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5574]sparebulb[/MENTION] on this, the right should have chasing the working man's vote for years now.

Especially now that the Democrat's constituency is naught more than queeers, communists, foreign invaders and unhinged female basket cases concerned only about how many babies they can kill and when they can kill them.

You can do that without pandering to the unions, whose leadership are outright commies. You realize that the unions are the biggest funding source for Democrats, right?

[MENTION=75029]Invisible Man[/MENTION] and [MENTION=962]RJB[/MENTION]'s race pivot aside, I didn't see a response to Matt's actual point. The head of the Teamster's union didn't say "Let's help the working man by doing away with the income tax." He didn't say "Let's help the working man by cutting property taxes." He didn't say 'Let's help the working man by protecting his right to natural gas stoves." He said "Let's help the working man....by new labor laws." Ummmm....okay. If he had said those same words at the DNC convention some of the same people praising this "outreach to working people" would be crying foul. So.....what exactly are the principles you're fighting for? I am sure Jimmy Dore (personally avowed socialist) loved the Teamsters boss's speech. He's been very bullish on Trump recently while still pushing for "Medicare For All." I love Jimmy Dore for his straight up honesty while at the same time disagreeing with his socialist positions. But okay. Socialism per se is no longer verboten. Got it.

 

[Matt Collins]

@Invisible Man and @RJB's race pivot aside, I didn't see a response to Matt's actual point. The head of the Teamster's union didn't say "Let's help the working man by doing away with the income tax." He didn't say "Let's help the working man by cutting property taxes." He didn't say 'Let's help the working man by protecting his right to natural gas stoves." He said "Let's help the working man....by new labor laws." Ummmm....okay. If he had said those same words at the DNC convention some of the same people praising this "outreach to working people" would be crying foul. So.....what exactly are the principles you're fighting for? I am sure Jimmy Dore (personally avowed socialist) loved the Teamsters boss's speech. He's been very bullish on Trump recently while still pushing for "Medicare For All." I love Jimmy Dore for his straight up honesty while at the same time disagreeing with his socialist positions. But okay. Socialism per se is no longer verboten. Got it.

I think the attraction for the union to Trump (besides the obvious blue collar worker /conservative demographic) is that Trump wants to make foreign imports more expensive thus making it more viable to manufacture things in the US.

 

[jmdrake]

I think the attraction for the union to Trump (besides the obvious blue collar worker /conservative demographic) is that Trump wants to make foreign imports more expensive thus making it more viable to manufacture things in the US.

Maybe. But I'm going by he what he actually said. (Labor laws). Besides, the Teamsters mostly cover trucking and that is not negatively affected by imports the way the UAW is.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Maybe. But I'm going by he what he actually said. (Labor laws). Besides, the Teamsters mostly cover trucking and that is not negatively affected by imports the way the UAW is.

A trucker's largest expense, greater than the truck itself, is fuel cost.

Diesel fuel prices exploded to almost $6 per gallon, under Biden's regime.

In addition, regulatory costs, including EV truck mandates that Biden's regime put in place this year, will effectively shut down long haul trucking.

Whatever the leftist running the Teamsters says, rank and file truckers have no reason to support Biden.

 

[jmdrake]

A trucker's largest expense, greater than the truck itself, is fuel cost.

Diesel fuel prices exploded to almost $6 per gallon, under Biden's regime.

In addition, regulatory costs, including EV truck mandates that Biden's regime put in place this year, will effectively shut down long haul trucking.

Whatever the leftist running the Teamsters says, rank and file truckers have no reason to support Biden.

That it 100% tangential to the point that I'm making. I'm talking about the speech that was given at the freaking RNC. And, technically Biden got big oil to turn up the tap making 2023 the record year for U.S. oil production ever. (A fact Biden doesn't talk about much because it goes against his whole "carbon footprint" argument). But I get it. Marxist language doesn't matter anymore as long as its said in support of the guy some of us are supporting at the moment.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That it 100% tangential to the point that I'm making. I'm talking about the speech that was given at the freaking RNC. And, technically Biden got big oil to turn up the tap making 2023 the record year for U.S. oil production ever. (A fact Biden doesn't talk about much because it goes against his whole "carbon footprint" argument). But I get it. Marxist language doesn't matter anymore as long as its said in support of the guy some of us are supporting at the moment.

Just some additional info: the reason diesel fuel is so expensive is not due entirely to crude prices, but rather to EPA mandates concerning sulfur content.

EPA continues to ratchet down on the sulfur content in diesel fuel so that polar bears don't fall over or the three assed creek snail does not dry up.

The problem with that is two fold: it is very expensive to "scrub" that sulfur in the refining process, and it gets exponentially more expensive for each fractional reduction.

Second is that every time you do that, you remove potential energy in a given volume of fuel.

I've been using and working on and maintaining diesel engines and equipment for damn near fifty years now and I can tell you the fuel today does not look or smell or burn or weigh the same as unscrubbed diesel from say 1984.

Bottom line, you end up burning more of it to produce the same amount of work.

Which adds to the inflationary cost, as everything you touch got to you by diesel power.

 

[jmdrake]

Just some additional info: the reason diesel fuel is so expensive is not due entirely to crude prices, but rather to EPA mandates concerning sulfur content.

EPA continues to ratchet down on the sulfur content in diesel fuel so that polar bears don't fall over or the three assed creek snail does not dry up.

The problem with that is two fold: it is very expensive to "scrub" that sulfur in the refining process, and it gets exponentially more expensive for each fractional reduction.

Second is that every time you do that, you remove potential energy in a given volume of fuel.

I've been using and working on and maintaining diesel engines and equipment for damn near fifty years now and I can tell you the fuel today does not look or smell or burn or weigh the same as unscrubbed diesel from say 1984.

Bottom line, you end up burning more of it to produce the same amount of work.

Which adds to the inflationary cost, as everything you touch got to you by diesel power.

Hmmm...sulfur is related to acid rain. But the polar bear problem is (supposedly) related to the carbon footprint. So burning more low sulfur fuel to go the same distance would seem to exacerbate the supposed problem. Again great points to be made at a Republican convention that the Teamster's president didn't make. You and others are arguing why the small government message should be palatable to blue collar workers. I'm pointing out that this guy brought a big government message to the RNC. To put it in perspective it would be like Cornel West talking to the RNC about the benefits of government enforced affirmative action and someone else saying "Great outreach. There are all sorts of other reasons (completely unrelated to what Cornel West said) why black people should vote republican!"

 

[Anti Federalist]

Hmmm...sulfur is related to acid rain. But the polar bear problem is (supposedly) related to the carbon footprint. So burning more low sulfur fuel to go the same distance would seem to exacerbate the supposed problem. Again great points to be made at a Republican convention that the Teamster's president didn't make. You and others are arguing why the small government message should be palatable to blue collar workers. I'm pointing out that this guy brought a big government message to the RNC. To put it in perspective it would be like Cornel West talking to the RNC about the benefits of government enforced affirmative action and someone else saying "Great outreach. There are all sorts of other reasons (completely unrelated to what Cornel West said) why black people should vote republican!"

I understand and your point is valid.

All I'm doing is pointing out why the small government message can and does resonate with blue collar working class folks.

And the polar bears falling over is a wisecrack, not meant to be serious.

But they have moved past acid rain concerns, now it is sulfur oxides causing global warming and particulate pollution.