Tarrio gets 22 years for Jan 6th. Wasn't even there.

[Snowball]

I think this verdict shows that Trump is going to prison.

"Additionally, The Justice Department is appealing the 18-year prison sentence of Rhodes, the Oath Keepers founder, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy in a separate case, as well as the sentences of other members of his antigovernment militia group that were lighter than what prosecutors had sought. Prosecutors had requested 25 years in prison for Rhodes."

January 6th convictions and cases

Enrique Tarrio: Proud Boys, 22 years.
Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers, 18 years (under gov appeal for 25 years)
Joe Biggs, Florida Oath Keepers, 17 years (under gov appeal for 33 years)
Zach Rehl, Proud Boys, 15 years
Peter Schwartz, 14 years
Daniel “D.J.” Rodriguez, 12 years
Kelly Meggs, Florida Oath Keepers, 12 years
Dominic Pezzola, New York Proud Boys, 10 years
Thomas Webster, 10 years
Albuquerque Cosper Head 7.5 years
Guy Wesley Reffitt 7.25 years
Thomas Robertson 7.25 years
Robert Scott Palmer 5.25 years
Richard Barnett 4.5 years
Devlyn Thompson 3.83 years
Lonnie Leroy Coffman 3.83 years
Nicholas Languerand 3.66 years
Jacob Anthony Chansley 3.42 years
Scott Kevin Fairlamb 3.42 years
Greg Rubenacker 3.42 years
Matthew Ryan Miller 2.75 years
Cleveland Meredith, Jr. 2.33 years
Michael Curzio 6 months
Gracyn Dawn Courtright 1 month
Robert Chapman probation
Matthew Greene probation (rat)
Former President of the United States Donald J. Trump (pending)
Former Attorney General of the United States and Mayor of New York City Rudolph William Louis Giuliani (pending)
John Eastman pending
Sidney Powell pending
Kenneth Chesebro pending
Jeffrey Clark pending
Unknown "political consultant" pending
Ashli Babbit (deceased)

 

[69360]

Just take a minute to internalize the fact that you now live in a country that has for real political prisoners and show trials.

I disagree. Politically motivated prosecutions for crimes others have got a pass on in the past maybe. Excessive sentences sure. But I believe the J6 people and Trump are guilty.

 

[TheTexan]

I disagree. Politically motivated prosecutions for crimes others have got a pass on in the past maybe. Excessive sentences sure. But I believe the J6 people and Trump are guilty.

Excessive is an understatement.

 

[TheTexan]

I disagree. Politically motivated prosecutions for crimes others have got a pass on in the past maybe. Excessive sentences sure. But I believe the J6 people and Trump are guilty.

This guy who wasn't even there, is he "guilty" ?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Just take a minute to internalize the fact that you now live in a country that has for real political prisoners and show trials.

I disagree. Politically motivated prosecutions for crimes others have got a pass on in the past maybe. Excessive sentences sure. But I believe the J6 people and Trump are guilty.

Even granting "the J6 people and Trump are guilty", their prosecutions are still "politically motivated", and are "for crimes others have got a pass on" (also for politically motivated reasons). Antifa/BLM rioters, for example, not only "got a pass", but are actually being rewarded [1].

It is not required that the victims be "innocent" in order nevertheless for their prosecutions to be politically motivated, their sentences to be excessive, and their trials in kangaroo courts to be for "show". The guilty can be "railroaded", too (probably even more easily than the innocent, for that matter).

So what is there to disagree with about what AF said (again, even granting "the J6 people and Trump are guilty")?



[1]

They get paid millions of taxpayer's dollars.

https://twitter.com/FrankDeScushin/status/1697036400665751652

 

[Anti Federalist]

I disagree. Politically motivated prosecutions for crimes others have got a pass on in the past maybe. Excessive sentences sure. But I believe the J6 people and Trump are guilty.

Of what?

 

[Philhelm]

I disagree. Politically motivated prosecutions for crimes others have got a pass on in the past maybe. Excessive sentences sure. But I believe the J6 people and Trump are guilty.

I think that your hatred of Trump has clouded your judgment.

What some may dismiss as "whataboutism" is inherently relevant to a system of justice, since any such system that overtly enforces unequal application of the law is broken (at least by jurisdiction, assuming one might want to argue over disparity between individual state law, etc.). Most of the nation is not blind to the fact that we witnessed months of left-wing political violence wherein law enforcement and prosecutors seemed to turn a blind eye. Even against those who harmed people during that time, I would be loath to charge the perpetrators for sedition above and beyond the underlying crime itself. Even the courts used to have reservations about creating a chilling effect to freedom of speech and assembly, but that seems to have been compromised.

If a protestor shot a cop, burned down a building, or broke a window, then the government should charge them for those crimes, setting aside esoteric libertarian/anarchoid arguments against law enforcement. However, what we are seeing is 100% politically motivated, and the cruel and ignorant people cheerleading this do not seem to understand that this nation will pay a heavy price just to sate their primal hatred of Trump, who is essentially their effigy of the people they truly hate, the ones who voted for him. Whatever chance there may have been for reconciliation within this nation has been destroyed. At least they stopped Trump though, right?

 

[Philhelm]

This guy who wasn't even there, is he "guilty" ?

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.

 

[TheTexan]

A person asks a politician to do a constitutionally questionable* thing -> 22 years in prison

Congress critters do decisively unconstitutional things on daily basis -> pat on the back, re-election, and $$

*not necesssarily even unconstitutional

 

[Anti Federalist]

Whatever chance there may have been for reconciliation within this nation has been destroyed.

The situation is untenable and is going to result already resulting in bloodshed.

There must be a separation.

 

[acptulsa]

I think that your hatred of Trump has clouded your judgment.

What some may dismiss as "whataboutism" is inherently relevant to a system of justice, since any such system that overtly enforces unequal application of the law is broken (at least by jurisdiction, assuming one might want to argue over disparity between individual state law, etc.). Most of the nation is not blind to the fact that we witnessed months of left-wing political violence wherein law enforcement and prosecutors seemed to turn a blind eye...

https://twitter.com/ericmmatheny/status/1699202471640342875

 

[Snowball]

The situation is untenable and is going to result already resulting in bloodshed.

There must be a separation.

Nothing will happen.

They can and will do worse and nothing will happen.

Change will come from the outside-in. IMO.

Americans just don't have it anymore.

 

[TheCount]

https://twitter.com/ericmmatheny/status/1699202471640342875

Why is it that burglers are charged with crimes for entering houses, when people enter their houses every day?

 

[TheCount]

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Did I miss your change of heart on anchor babies with felony convictions?

You're getting soft.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Erstwhile ...

https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1699454229021077609

 

[Anti Federalist]

Nothing will happen.

They can and will do worse and nothing will happen.

Change will come from the outside-in. IMO.

Americans just don't have it anymore.

You got that right...and the worse is going to be pretty bad.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why is it that burglers are charged with crimes for entering houses, when people enter their houses every day?

WTF are you babbling about?

 

[69360]

This guy who wasn't even there, is he "guilty" ?

Tarrio or Trump? Doesn't matter, I think both are guilty yes.

Of what?

Most of the charges were provable, tresspassing, the property crimes and yeah a shitty half assed attempt at insurrection. I do think most of these people were misled by Trump and could have been sorted out with a fine or maybe a month in jail.

I see the BLM riots are being brought up. Those people should have been tracked down just like the J6 people and prosecuted. No it's not fair that they weren't but that does not make the J6 people less guilty or political prisoners.

 

[TheTexan]

Tarrio or Trump? Doesn't matter, I think both are guilty yes.


Most of the charges were provable, tresspassing, the property crimes and yeah a shitty half assed attempt at insurrection. I do think most of these people were misled by Trump and could have been sorted out with a fine or maybe a month in jail.

I see the BLM riots are being brought up. Those people should have been tracked down just like the J6 people and prosecuted. No it's not fair that they weren't but that does not make the J6 people less guilty or political prisoners.

Yea, I've given you the benefit of the doubt so far, but I'm declaring the diagnosis official at this point: TDS.

The fact that you think this is normal justice and not political persecution, is just beyond reason.

 

[69360]

Trump is the cause of most of the political chaos in the country. Refusing to drop out of the race while facing 4 indictments is basically giving the opposition, who is even worse than him, a free pass on the next election. So, yes I can't stand that asshole and have never been shy about that.

Also it's generally accepted that to be a political prisoner, you have not actually committed the acts you are imprisoned for.